What's your game like without alcohol?

Soupertramp · 2012-06-28T03:04:37+00:00

Also, here's a fun trick for the HB9s and 10s. In the couple seconds before you approach, imagine her ripping a gigantic, thundering fart. And make it a good one. Make it one of those farts that starts as a high-pitched whisper and crescendos into a window-rattling reverb.

Trust me. It will probably give you a chuckle and make her seem a lot more human. And don't need alcohol to do it.

antfoo · 2012-06-28T00:15:26+00:00

no alcohol? then cocaine

redditor29198 · 2012-06-27T22:35:43+00:00

Practice more (and meditate if you want). Drinking alcohol is a crutch that will only hurt you in the long run. You will come to rely on it, and then you will never succeed outside of situations where you are drinking, such as at the grocery store, on a bus, or in a classroom.

The correct mindset is that you enjoy being sober. You love who you are sober. You don't have any interest in being drunk, because you're awesome normally. And then sometimes, for fun, you'll drink—not because you need to, but because you want to. You'll probably start seeking out better quality alcohols too because now it's about the taste and the enjoyment rather than the "being drunk and not a pussy."

Alcohol removes the fear of failure. That's all. It doesn't make you superman or any more smart or witty than you already are, it just takes away the fear of failure.

Strive to fail. Love failing. Fail as often as possible. Fail like it's the only way you're going to succeed, because it is.

For-Teh-Lulz · 2012-06-28T00:36:37+00:00

I have a hard time talking to unattractive girls. Anybody else have this issue? When I'm talking to attractive girls I turn on the charm, flirt, and am genuinely interested in getting to know them. With girls who I don't have an interest in physically, I tend to shy away from engaging in conversation because I don't want them to think I'm flirting with them (I feel uncomfortable about their lack of physical attractiveness).

I will add, this only really applies to girls around my age, because if they are clearly 'too old' or 'too young' for me, then I am comfortable conversing on any level, because subconsciously I know they know that nothing is going to happen. I love flirting with women who are clearly past their 40s and definitely just having fun with it.

As a side note, I've found that meeting new people while in a social situation where alcohol is present (don't drink too much, gentlemen) can turn up the attraction fast, and any subsequent meetings with this girl, while sober, you can just maintain a low key, self amusing vibe, knowing that this girl already has an idea that you're the shit. Just don't try too hard to impress anybody, and always stay congruent with your interactions. Even the life of the party has quiet days of contemplation and relaxation.

Murmaider · 2012-06-27T23:58:25+00:00

Sometime ago i read "if you can't do it sober, it doesn't count", since then i decided i would cut back my drinking and game as sober as possible. Whereas before i would be drinking 6-7 drinks, i now have 2-3 at most. It was definitely easier to socialize w/ people when i was buzzed/drunk but there was very little value to those interactions. Nothing would really come of them. Without the massive alcohol intake, i now feel sharp and in control. It was hard at first, but it has definitely paid off.

smoley · 2012-06-28T10:04:02+00:00

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delacook · 2012-06-27T22:38:20+00:00

I'm a non drinker as well. I've actually never had an alcoholic drink, crazy right?

urfaselol · 2012-06-28T02:59:06+00:00

imo... if you're in an environment when everyone's drinking. I don't think it hurts. It puts you in the vibe of everyone else and in a mood/energy for having a good time.

If you're using it to get the confidence to talk to hot girls then... you might want to cut back.

asad16 · 2012-06-28T16:02:12+00:00

the same. haven't drank in 5 years

Soupertramp · 2012-06-28T03:01:50+00:00

I hardly ever drink, and, when I'm not in a relationship, most of my game is daygame or social circle game. Alcohol makes me more courageous but less witty and aware. My game is at its best when I'm sober, lucid, happy, and energetic.

fancysuit · 2012-06-28T04:41:53+00:00

Same situation here. I generally don't drink either, but on new years I drank some. It was great. I flirted with groups of girls where usually I would never consider approaching a group. I got some random kisses :-) If I can be that confident and care-free sober, it would be great.

dumcumster · 2012-06-28T05:11:15+00:00

my game gets less provocative without alcohol but i can close either way. drunk or sober if i try and take a sensed opportunity i can usually make it happen.. but sometimes being tipsy will slow down the old reaction time. like the other week this hb10 slipped away from me in what i'd characterize as a single solitary moment of nonchalance. i've replayed it in my mind and i see how i could've closed* but the booze had me all puckered up and before i even realized it she was gone.

*disclaimer: i don't believe in magic bullets but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take blah blah blah

ZakieChan · 2012-06-28T08:22:03+00:00

I can totally relate... So I tend not to drink much as I don't want it to become a crutch. However, I take note that what I do while drunk DOES work extreme well, and I just have to trust it will still work when sober.

For the most part, reminding myself of that does work. Granted I am not as good sober, but I am much better than I used to be.

leveledupPUA · 2012-06-28T14:34:26+00:00

As someone who drives (because I live in the suburbs, and I refuse to drink and drive!!!), it's not so hard. Yes, in the beginning of the night it's hard, but talk to randoms (bartenders, bouncers, etc). You'll limber up socially and get some proof.

As the night progresses, people have had drunk enough anyways, so it's you, sober, talking to a cute HB, drunk/tipsy. So it's easy.

Also if you're sober, you'll pick up reading body language fast, as drunk people exaguarate those. A lot of fun can be had when you're sober. Just make the best of your situation instead of complaining about lack of alcohol. Sober game is fun!

have_a_nice_day · 2012-06-28T01:18:03+00:00

I'm a drinker. If it's available, I'm drinking. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. But yeah, like that other poster said: break out the cocaine.

peachpua · 2012-06-28T12:50:19+00:00

My game is fine without alcohol because I don't drink when I'm spitting game. If you need alcohol to approach women then your inner game/state needs to be fixed.

Deadlyxbox · 2012-06-27T22:39:43+00:00

I find myself having the same problem in party situations. I'm awkward if I don't drink, but I find that if I drink a few beers I become the life of the party. They call it social lubricant for a reason. This effect becomes more apparent around attractive women as well. It's not something I want to rely on. I shouldn't need it to be fun and social. It's just easier at the moment to be a bit buzzed.

Title	What's your game like without alcohol?
Author	eequalsmc
Upvotes	26
Comments	41
Date	June 27, 2012 10:00 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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