Do men like being objectified by women?

gratis_eekhoorn · 2024-10-04T14:48:19+00:00

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VanillaAbstract · 2024-10-04T01:17:31+00:00

That thread is sad. Men are talking about their own life experience and angry women are shouting at them for not understanding why women don't like being cat called. It seems like everyone fully understands that catcalling women is bad and makes them feel bad, but this is a chance for those women to try to understand someone else's experiences instead. But it's like they forgot the post is a question directed at men and are treating them as intruders on the conversation. Many posters in the thread are describing how even if it's harassment they still feel good about someone seeing them as not disgusting. This is something I've heard about being a problem for women as well when they have low self esteem so I don't know why it's such a hard concept to grasp.

WhyDidntITextBack · 2024-10-04T01:20:21+00:00

Honestly. I’ve always kinda craved it. Being seen as an object of desire.

I don’t blame women for not enjoying it. When you’re always bombarded with unwanted attention it probably gets exhausting. But, as a man who typically doesn’t get too much positive attention from women I’ve always wanted to be seen like that.

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That being said, in all likelihood, if I was to be objectified it would probably be for what I can do, provide, give, etc. Men and women are objectified in different ways. Typically.

HulkPower · 2024-10-04T01:03:38+00:00

Depends on the man and the degree of objectification.

Fickle-Cartoonist466 · 2024-10-04T01:00:21+00:00

Compliments ≠ Objectification, btw

I appreciate being genuinely complimented on my appearance

I do NOT enjoy being catcalled

Vegetable_Camera50 · 2024-10-04T01:42:12+00:00

Depends on the men. Every man is different. I don't like compliments. Since I have issues with getting validation and approval from others. And compliments always bring up my feelings of being anti validation and approval.

lemons7472 · 2024-10-04T03:57:28+00:00

That’d depend heavily on your ideals and the man In question’s own idea of what is objectification. I say this because a lot of the time objectifcation is used more like a buzzword.

With that being said, many of the comments themselves seem to once again delve into “power dynamics” of how a man won’t feel threaten by a group of women like how men feel threatened by a group of men, with the assumption and whatnot that the man does it for power and whatnot, and the woman can’t really harm the man because he’s bigger or intimidating or whatever sterotype you wanna throw in order to make it seem like men are invincible and cannot be sexually harmed because it doesn’t fit the narrative of the “power dynamic”. Therefore men cannot understand what it’s like to be threatened because of being catcalled, when really, those men may simply just like the compliment.

In reality, power dynamics don’t really matter as much because the situation can be more nuanced than that. That’s why you still get male rape victims of women.

Edit: what’s funny is that a few of the comments DO say they didn’t like it in there experience, yet those comments get fucked over too due to the logic of “oh Power Dynamics, those women cannot harm or make you feel uncomfortable” that most of the comments believe. This post wasn’t made or even used to understand men despite directing male opinion, it’s just used to scapegoat and vilify men like what this comment brought up. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/s/CoRlQk31Tr

karspearhollow · 2024-10-04T05:51:57+00:00

It feels good to feel physically desired. It feels bad for that to be the only thing valued about you. Objectification doesn’t cross that line on its own.

Wauron · 2024-10-04T09:42:22+00:00

A good analogy is that women are drowning in sexual attention while men are starved of it. Neither is pleasant.

Grow_peace_in_Bedlam · 2024-10-04T17:50:15+00:00

Why do they always make it another man catcalling the man? If it's a straight woman complaining about being catcalled by a man, wouldn't a more apt analogy be a man being catcalled by a rare bigger, stronger woman?

It just seems dishonest to me to use a straight man being catcalled by someone of the same sex as a comparison to a straight woman being catcalled by someone of the opposite sex, because for a straight person being catcalled by someone of the opposite sex, there's at least the potential for attraction and a positive reaction.

WanabeInflatable · 2024-10-04T04:48:09+00:00

Men are objectified by women as ATMs, and it is not fun.

Archangel1313 · 2024-10-04T04:24:05+00:00

Can't speak for everyone, but I certainly do. Slap my ass and call me pretty, anytime.

Poyri35 · 2024-10-04T04:42:06+00:00

I can’t speak for others, if they enjoy it then they enjoy it, there is nothing wrong with that.

But most of the comments in that thread seem to me like they are either women who say that men cannot be objectified, or men that can’t see the difference between compliments and objectification.

Also, the questions of the poster is inherently wrong imo. (Paraphrasing a little) “Do men enjoy unwanted attention from women”. If the attention is unwanted, then that means the recipient doesn’t want it. Why would they enjoy something they don’t want?

Global-Bluejay-3577 · 2024-10-04T00:19:53+00:00

I'm amab but nb. So maybe I don't count

No. I work out a lot so I am muscular and have long hair along with that. I really do not appreciate people grabbing my muscles or touching my hair without permission. Just because I present as a cishet man does NOT give you permission to sexually harass me

jkozuch · 2024-10-04T02:52:10+00:00

Nope. Cannot stand it, personally.

callipygiancultist · 2024-10-04T23:59:15+00:00

I really, really want to be physically desired for my body, and not because I did a certain action or achieved some conventional marker of success it performed masculinity correctly. I would also enjoy being fetishized for my hair color or some other aspect of my body. Yeah not just appreciated but straight up fetishized. I’m ginger and I’ve gotten shit for it over the years and I can very clearly see the societal attitudes towards red haired people (red hair women= exotic, spicy, fiery red hair men= goofy unattractive weirdos). To be seen as inherently desirable would do wonders for my psychological stability.

People generally respect my intelligence (although with adhd I can sometimes be treated like an idiot), I get compliments on my clothing and fashion all the time, I get complements at work all the time for my work ethic and performance and I’ve even gotten a lot of praise for being safe/ someone who could “hold space”. And while I appreciate those compliments, if I’m honest they just don’t do it for me and I just want to be desired for who I inherently am and not because of achievements or performing masculinity correctly. The few times in life where I have gotten compliments on my physical appearance have stuck with me far more than praising my intelligence or work ethic. I just don’t think women understand how crazy making it is to feel like you’ve constantly need to fight and battle to be seen as worthy as a human being.

country2poplarbeef · 2024-10-04T01:12:34+00:00

It depends on the guy, but I'd default to no. I think some guys would think they like being objectified, but I think that's because they don't really understand what it would look like in practice. Men would definitely love being admired and told they're handsome or flirted with or that sort of thing. But objectification is really about disregarding somebody's personhood and treating them like an object or a tool, and I think when you frame it like that, a lot of guys can actually understand what it means to be objectified and how it feels.

Just tbc, please don't take this as me saying the catcalling or any other way women are objectified is "admiration." As a man, I personally have my own issues with being objectified much like women are (not a humblebrag or anything, I... was a cute kid) so I generally do understand where both men and women are coming from when it comes to being objectified. I just think, on average, men experience objectification differently and while there's certainly still a good slice of guys who like being objectified, I would say the majority of men don't really enjoy it.

captainhornheart · 2024-10-04T09:42:02+00:00

I've never fully understood what objectification means, to be honest. It's a vague shorthand for a number of things, and that vagueness is probably useful to some people. A term like "discrimination" has an unambiguous, literal and testable meaning - to treat someone differently based on who they are - but objectification is always a metaphor for something else. I don't find it useful or interesting.

Due_Wish7947 · 2024-10-04T01:11:55+00:00

I don’t think that objectification is ever a desired thing, at least for most people. But I think it’s an interesting discussion on that post in the way how some people frame objectification for men in terms of disposability in war and in working class terms

dadijo2002 · 2024-10-04T14:28:22+00:00

To an extent, like sure some of that attention might be nice in specific contexts but like not if it starts getting weird. Flirting with me on a night out? Sure that’s awesome. Flashing me your bra and then proceeding to twerk on me while I’m just trying to walk home? Yeah mayyyyybe not (true story)

Onyxx_Drako · 2024-10-06T21:19:43+00:00

No, objectification hurts men too. Next question.

Former_Range_1730 · 2024-10-04T01:33:36+00:00

Of course...if she's cute.

I actually hate it when over weight, masculine women hit on me.

See_You_Space_Coyote · 2024-10-05T19:39:43+00:00

Men aren't a monolith or a hive mind so the answer will vary depending on the man.

Least_Limit_3636 · 2024-10-09T13:37:16+00:00

I am surprised about how gynocentric our society is

eternal_kvitka1817 · 2024-10-09T19:10:44+00:00

Can you pls clarify that's it's only heterosexual and bisexual men? cz gay men don't care about it all.

Least_Limit_3636 · 2024-10-12T08:50:59+00:00

Stop your toxic feminism

rey_nerr21 · 2024-10-04T11:30:19+00:00

I don't think ANY normal person of any gender likes being objectified unless it's literally just a kink of theirs.

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