Father says authorities could have saved 'awesome' seven-year-old son murdered by his ex-partner in custody battle but they assumed 'the mother must be good and a father bad'

Moln0014 · 2018-03-27T17:19:50+00:00

My brothers ex wife got full custody of my brothers kids because she is the "mother and better at raising kids". 3 months later at 4.5 and 3 years old they were both wondering chucky cheeses alone. Cops called. Cops picked up the kids, hunted for the "fit mother". The cops found her at home with her boyfriend passed out and high on drugs. A clip in the paper about the incident and a police report later, bam. Brother has full custody. Mothers are always good.

HeForeverBleeds · 2018-03-27T16:21:17+00:00

Isn't the stat that 72% of children killed by a parent was the mother? Family court needs to be reevaluated.
Also, to think that she would rather kill her own child instead of giving up custody where she would still have access to him.

AndzrelBaenre · 2018-03-27T17:22:01+00:00

People like her tend to have kids in order to entrap a person and control them. They think if I break the condom he/she will have to stay with me. This is a pretty common practice and when you add batshit insane to it this is the result. Frankly, being in a relationship is not worth that kind risk. I am happy to be single, childfree, and unattached.

HeForeverBleeds · 2018-03-27T16:34:48+00:00

So many lives have been ruined or, in this case, completely destroyed because of this ignorant assumption that mothers are always the better parents, or that they instinctively love and care for their children

Even though there's some justice in this case in that the murderer is imprisoned, the real tragic thing is that this could have been prevented if the father had been listened to in the first place

DarthCerebroX · 2018-03-27T17:12:54+00:00

I don’t know exactly how bad things are in the UK or wherever this is from.... but here in the US, our family court system is pretty fucked up.

Multiple studies prove extreme bias in the divorce/family courts.

Relevant except...

*Another survey, this one commissioned by the Minnesota Supreme Court, found that a majority (56%) of the state’s judges, both male and female, agreed with the statement, “I believe young children belong with their mother.” Only a few of the judges indicated that they would need more information about the mother before they could answer. Fathers, one judge explained, “must prove their ability to parent while mothers are assumed to be able.”4 *Another judge commented, “I believe that God has given women a psychological makeup that is better tuned to caring for small children.”5

And this is exactly the problem.... Mothers are automatically assumed to be “good caregivers” while fathers must prove their ability to parent. This ignorant naive view of the world causes judges to give preferential treatment to mothers.... and it’s only when they are presented with multiple pieces of undeniable evidence, do they start to question whether the mother is unfit to parent. Hell, many times even when there’s a bunch of evidence (such as drug/substance abuse, mental illness, evidence of abuse/neglect) suggesting that the mother is unfit, the judges will still ignore it and not take that into consideration when deciding custody arrangements. In that study above, only a few of the judges stated that they would wait until they had more information about the mother before passing judgment on her parenting abilities.... everyone else just presumes she’s a “good parent”.

Meanwhile, any stain or mark on the father’s record is all it takes for them to justify denying him custody of his children. They don’t even need actual proof or evidence to strip away a man’s rights to his children..... Usually all it takes is one false allegation of abuse and they automatically grant the mother restraining orders and temporary custody. And even when the investigation comes back showing there’s no evidence to those claims, the father still has to fight an uphill battle in order to be in his children’s lives.

It’s like u/HeForeverBleeds said above...

So many lives have been ruined or, in this case, completely destroyed because of this ignorant assumption that mothers are always the better parents, or that they instinctively love and care for their children

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*Well, why can’t we reform our divorce/family courts already? Isn’t feminism supposed to be fighting against these kinds of gender roles/stereotypes? *

Actually, the biggest obstacle to custody reform has been the mainstream feminist movement. Powerful and influential feminist organizations such as NOW continuously lobby the government to oppose alimony/custody reform.

They don’t mind the gender stereotypes that benefit women.... they’re only concerned with the ones that harm women.

The Florida chapter of the NOW, successfully lobbied to have Governor Rick Scott veto not one, but two alimony reform bills in the last ten years, bills that had passed both houses with overwhelming bipartisan support, and were supported by more than 70% of the electorate.

The feminist group in Maryland who convinced every female member of the House on both sides of the aisle to walk off the floor when a shared parenting bill came up for a vote, meaning the quorum could not be met and the bill died then and there.

Feminists also pushed the Tender Years doctrine decades and decades ago as a way to combat the fact that fathers were the parent that used to get custody of his children before the alimony/child support laws were created.

For those who don't know what the tender years doctrine is, it's basically a legal principle that was first created and used in family law back in the 19th century that presumes that during a child's "tender" years (generally regarded as the age of four and under), the mother should have custody of the child.

These principles have been abolished in most places because of obvious flaws in the logic... such as the fact that instead of treating people as individuals, they base a persons parental abilities simply on their gender.

Unfortunately though... that doesn't stop these old judges from being stuck in 19th century mindsets that act like all women are wonderful amazing creatures that are far more nurturing than any man could be.

So instead of fighting for true equality, the early feminists just reversed the trend of fathers getting custody and turning it to the complete opposite extreme where mothers are the main ones to get custody. And even though all the studies show how damaging it is for these children to not have their fathers in their lives, they continue to fight against shared equal custody reform bills.... They aren’t concerned with the best interests of the child. They aren’t concerned with true gender equality... They are only concerned with women’s interests.

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EDIT; False allegations of abuse during Divorce proceedings

Here’s a HuffPost article which states that 70% of all allegations of abuse in divorce/family courts are proven false.

70% of all allegations of abuse in divorce/custody battles are “unfounded” or “false”, after investigations. Gimme a min and I’ll try to find the source.

http://archive.is/6oEKl

While meant to act as a safety mechanism in cases where domestic violence is present, the ease of obtaining an order of protection and the instant benefits it provides the alleging party has created a system ripe for abuse. In fact, up to 70 percent of cases involving allegations of abuse during custody disputes are deemed unnecessary or false.

Clearly, protection orders that are meant to offer protection for those in serious situations are now being used as a weapon to turn the tide in divorce; a weapon that overwhelming targets men.

EDIT: You’ll notice I had to use an archived link instead of linking directly to the source... That’s because Huffington Post recently removed this article from their site.

The article is actually from back in 2015 so it stayed up longer than I would have imagined.. It seems like they only got rid of it in the last few months since this MeToo controversy has been going on. They probably removed it because they don’t want that information to be well known as it casts a lot of doubt on their “false accusations of rape are extremely rare- only 2%” narrative. I mean, think about it.... It’s very clear that a lot of women are willing to lie about their ex being abusive,... possibly ruining his life, getting him incarcerated, ruining his relationship with his kids, etc etc... all so they can give themselves an advantage in court.

So if that many women are willing to lie about something as serious as abuse/domestic violence.... what makes people think accusations of rape/sexual assault/harassment are any different?? ... They’re not!... they are just another form of lies that can be weaponized and used for their own self interests.

Women are human beings just like men.... and people lie all the fucking time, whenever it suits them. They will lie for an infinite number of reasons,...

But for some reason feminists and women’s advocates pretend that false accusation lies are somehow different... that because these allegations are so serious, women understand the consequences for lying about these things and they are less willing to do it. It’s total bullshit....

Women aren’t these altruistic, pure hearted creatures that would never harm another person.... They are every bit as capable of hurting, exploiting, abusing and taking advantage of other beings just like men are.

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EDIT 2: Here’s another really good article talking about this same issue, I found while searching for a backup. It also cites the HuffPost article but it also contains a bunch of other sources as well.

http://flwg.com.au/pg/news/view/false-allegations-in

Some of the sources it cites

No Restraint on Restraining Orders by Stephen Baskerville, Ph.D. http://www.ejfi.org/DV/dv-23.htm

Stop Abusive and Violent Environments, False Accusations of Domestic Violence, By the Numbers http://www.saveservices.org/camp/faam-2011/false-accusations-of-domestic-violence-by-the-numbers/

https://sosen.org/blog/2014/04/18/false-accusations.html

Men’s Rights: Are There Laws to Protect A Man From An Ex-Wife’s False Report? http://mensrights.com/are-there-laws-to-protect-a-man-from-an-ex-wifes-false-report/

arnoldwhat · 2018-03-27T16:19:59+00:00

This isn't how you smash the patriarchy

2018-03-27T19:48:46+00:00

Very sad, there’s a major need for equal parenting rights in all custody battles. That should be the default not the exception.

In cases where the father is obviously the safest choice, there should be no hesitation to give him full custody and make her pay support; however, it has been done the opposite for so long it’s entrenched as normal. This must change.

Fathers have as much or more to contribute to the raising of children as any women does. Another prime example of reverse discrimination at its finest.

M8753 · 2018-03-27T18:52:58+00:00

Also, "I know now you will be safe from harm and filled with only love and joy in heaven.", like I needed more reason to dislike religion.

And they knew she had mental issues previously.

jaheiner · 2018-03-27T19:54:54+00:00

As a new father this breaks my heart...I can't even begin to imagine what this man is goign through. That the system failed him and that child so incredibly is an absolute shame when all that would have been needed to save this kids life was for them to actually be impartial.

That sad thing is that there is probably more work than there are people to do it in terms of CPS, however, if mommy had voiced concerns about safety of the children it would likely have actually been addressed.

LEGALinSCCCA · 2018-03-27T14:51:27+00:00

And with this new age of women shit this is only going to get worse. Glad I'm married already. I would just MGTOW if I was young and unmarried. The market for good women is small and most of them get taken quickly.

daemonflame · 2018-03-27T16:32:56+00:00

Assumption is the mother of all fuckups.

DougDante · 2018-03-28T00:34:00+00:00

Tweet with me to seek justice:

Father says authorities could have saved 'awesome' son, but they assumed 'mother must be good and a father bad'. Sexism that leads to child murder is a #hatecrime. Fix @ukhomeoffice @Number10gov @UKSupremeCourt! #UnitedKingdom #FathersRights #MensRights http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5548997/Father-says-authorities-saved-awesome-seven-year-old-son.html

2018-03-27T19:42:25+00:00

whoooo would even stick their dick in that....jesus

mewfour123412 · 2018-03-27T22:50:29+00:00

Is it just me or does the mother look like a Disney villian

2018-03-27T23:23:48+00:00

She looks like such a trash bag welfare queen. Glad she's locked up and she'll probably be getting a few beatings on a regular basis from the other inmates for murdering her son. I feel for the father. I can't imagine the horror he must be dealing with.

Knittingpasta · 2018-03-28T00:42:19+00:00

Mothers can be evil jerks

lolzerker · 2018-03-27T17:12:51+00:00

Truly fucking horrible.

optimistic_nut · 2018-03-28T01:45:13+00:00

WTF Only 18 years for killing a 7 year old?

2018-03-28T01:59:35+00:00

I wish that cunt had started the killing on herself and not her helpless son. I fucking hate her and I’ve never met her.

2018-03-27T19:30:49+00:00

Feminism kills again

KingRobotPrince · 2018-03-28T08:26:39+00:00

This really shows that you shouldn't settle when it comes to women. You really need to think about their mental state and how they will be as a mother, not just that you yourself can put up with them.

Mental health issues aren't worth the risk. Check carefully before committing. Like they say about buying a dog, check that she comes from a good family and see them together.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2018-03-28T13:05:40+00:00

Tender Years doctrine still in full effect.

When feminists pair up with traditionalists men suffer. Sometimes die.

Ted8367 · 2018-03-27T20:46:28+00:00

A father whose ex-partner was today jailed for 18 years for murdering their son during a custody battle has claimed the authorities dismissed his concerns and missed opportunities to prevent the killing.

The "authorities" have the primary responsibility in this murder. They initiated the process which placed the child in the physical control of the mother while simultaneously excluding the child from the father's protection. The mother's responsibility is secondary; it came afterwards.

Yet the "authorities" are not held to account; they never are. So this sort of situation will repeat in the future. This is where blind female preference and male blaming gets you.

Random_Teen_ · 2018-03-28T02:20:06+00:00

I don’t usually comment on posts but this got me fucking enraged . People with their everyday stereotypes caused the death of the boy , and why is this not on mainstream media? Because those cunts only want ratings by showing stupid feminist shows. This bitch should be given a life sentence or even better Capitol punishment. Rest in peace Kiddo.

Aviconus · 2018-03-28T02:55:11+00:00

Wow... 18 years.... that's it? She'll be out @ what, like 60? Bitch should have been put down.

PrepP3 · 2018-03-28T03:34:14+00:00

😡😡😡😡😡😡

chambertlo · 2018-03-28T08:55:00+00:00

It's the U.K. What the fuck did anyone expect?

Vianns · 2018-03-28T10:36:09+00:00

A few months ago, reading these stories was making me angry. Now that I'm a young dad, I feel very very sad. To me, to kill a children should be death penalty, no questions asked.

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