DNA test kits sold over the counter in the UK. Predictably, blue-pill MSM whines "but what about the children?" (but what about the whorish women?)

2012-09-09T17:07:05+00:00

Not one single mention of the man who was hypothetically raising someone else's child. Hurting the child's feelings is more important than knowing whether or not who the real father is. Case closed

Erebus77 · 2012-09-09T17:03:05+00:00

I think it's hilarious that when it comes to DNA testing, all of a sudden the baby's consent is important. Chopping off foreskins? Meh. DNA swab? Outrage!!

dungone · 2012-09-09T23:13:10+00:00

Unfortunately for feminists and their white knight "ethicists", women are just going to have to get used to this. We are talking about a technology which will come down in price and become ubiquitous and fast. This, in combination with male birth control, will be a lethal blow to women's ability to hoist children upon men without men's consent.

It will trigger a lot of societal changes and I don't think women are comfortable with those changes. It goes well beyond a few men getting cuckolded. Imagine, for example, women who want to get out of military service by getting pregnant, but find it nearly impossible because every single guy she encounters is on birth control. Imagine, for example, the way it will all but eliminate the observable phenomenon called "baby fever": http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/01/how-baby-fever-spreads-through-offices/ Feminists deny this, but nature does push women to want to have babies. Their biological clocks tick, their hormones surge, but up until now they've safely been able to label their own urges as men's responsibility. All of a sudden, consenting men will gain a lot of market value and they'll demand faithfulness like never before. What we will see is the return of the "family man" to the top rung of social status among women - the nice, dependable guy who actually wants a relationship with them and is willing to consent to a baby. Women, I'm afraid, are completely unprepared for that kind of reality.

married_woman_plus_k · 2012-09-09T20:58:14+00:00

It's shameful how these people are so willing to use children to push their agenda which actually ends up harming children.

Ma99ie · 2012-09-09T17:07:07+00:00

You notice that men's interests are never considered in any way. It's like their existence is to purely benefit lying cheating women. This is not justice. The only consequences of concern by feminist organizations is to ensure that scumbag liars are properly rewarded.

2012-09-09T20:33:24+00:00

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TheAlphaRanger · 2012-09-09T22:40:16+00:00

This is why this shit needs to be mandatory. From birth.

OuiCrudites · 2012-09-09T17:21:50+00:00

I don't like to link to Facebook, but one of my female Facebook acquaintances wrote a nasty and snarky comment against men who paternity test their children, and like a zillion other women "liked" her comment

I VERY politely raised the question that if he is raising the child with his efforts and his resources, shouldn't he have the right to discover whether the child is his.

I got blitzed by like 15 emo women for 1. suggesting that women lie about paternity and 2. putting father's rights over the rights of the child (because he should "man up") and I got unfriended by the OP.

It is extremely hard for me to have any respect, at all, for a gender in which 90% of them seem to think this way.

OldZippo · 2012-09-10T00:49:16+00:00

I hate hearing about how stuff like this damages the children. First, it's not the test or the results that's doing the damage. It's the people who conceived the child and then lied about the actual paternity to the child and others. Second, what makes you think that every child is as frail and fragile as you expect them to be? Life is hard and in going through it there are going to be some truths that you must face that are going to be tougher than others. That doesn't mean that the child finding out that dad isn't his biological father is going to flip shit and loose it. There's a certain level that yes, you do have to protect children. They need food, shelter, education, love and to be kept from a wide array of physical harm. However, concealing the identity of the biological father protects them in the same manner that holding a wet square of toilet paper above your head, would protect you while standing under a piano taking a six story fall.

joedude · 2012-09-09T21:25:35+00:00

wow do they even try anymore? they didn't even clearly spin this one.......

mayonesa · 2012-09-09T21:49:46+00:00

How is this bad for the baby?

Unite the right mother and the right father and then the baby has a complete and accurate family history.

coldacid · 2012-09-09T22:25:31+00:00

Men should have access to a test kit in the event that they have reason to suspect that their "baby mama" cheated and the child may not be theirs.

But, they should do it discreetly, because if they're wrong it has the potential to destroy the relationship.

And it should be done as soon after birth as possible. It would indeed be damaging to a little kid to find out that daddy no longer wants or loves him/her because "you're not really my kid". Imagine for a second what that would feel like. It's the sort of thing that would stick with that child all through their adult life as well...you'd never quite get over it. It's in everyone's best interests for the testing to be done as early as possible.

Gantry · 2012-09-10T01:35:29+00:00

Holy crap. So many levels of stupid in this video.

Since when do you need to get consent from your own (maybe) child to swab it's cheek? You brush his teeth, change his diaper, wipe his butt, bathe him and feed him without consent. A cotton swab is hardly invasive surgery.

Doesn't benefit the child? Well it might, if it turns out the mother wasn't a liar.

Wouldn't hold up in court? What does that have to do with anything? If and when you DO go to court, then they can get a 'real' DNA test. Do we throw out pregnancy tests because they aren't 100% accurate?

You might need counseling? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that most guys won't need to see a shrink when they find out they are or are not a father.

Basically the expert advice they ended up with was: Don't spend $300 on a simple kit to test your paternity. Instead go pay thousands of dollars for therapy, counseling and court costs. The whole point of this product is to avoid all that crap.

zyk0s · 2012-09-09T18:21:46+00:00

I'll admit, it might be an exaggeration, but he's my poorly regendered version:

A new law is being proposed in Sudan to outlaw the stoning of women found guilty of adultery. While some people welcome the change as a step forward, psychologists and social experts are worried this new law may have a negative impact on children.

"I think there's absolutely no benefit to the child in having a publicly shamed member of his family still alive", said Dr. Hashim, a leading pedopsychiatrist in the country. "They will inevitably be bullied in school and grow up ostracized, which will certainly have a very strong negative impact on their lives. I think it's just not worth the risk".

Legal scholars have also rejected the move, citing the track record of stoning policies in deterring adultery and improving the lives of children. The bill is set to be voted on sometime at the end of this year, but already children rights advocacy groups are petitioning the government to hold a public forum about the issue in a effort to stall the motion.

OuiCrudites · 2012-09-09T18:25:45+00:00

I truly believe the absolute selfishness and unabashed disrespect that is present in this type of mindset will backfire. There is no possible way their politically correct doublespeak will be able to mitigate the reality of this situation. Whoever makes this argument is truly a complete imbecile or is a cunning and deceitful pile of shit.

2012-09-09T21:52:14+00:00

How is that different from taking one piece of the children's hair and bringing it in a lab without the child or the mother knowing it? Why does this specific item raise concern?

4merpunk · 2012-09-09T23:12:31+00:00

MSM?

ss_camaro · 2012-09-10T10:21:49+00:00

Better question: What about paternity fraud?

Aaod · 2012-09-10T16:38:46+00:00

Hey ladies you want to know how you can not ever have to worry about this being a huge deal? QUIT SLEEPING AROUND ON YOUR HUSBAND AND GETTING KNOCKED UP! Jesus christ can you imagine the drama a women would make if a dude had a mistress and knocked her up and she found out?

BeingDS · 2012-09-10T02:25:16+00:00

It's posts like this that get us a bad wrap. Why are you using insulting language? Referring to women as "Whorish" is counter-productive and gains us nothing but more scorn. Be the bigger person or keep it to yourself please.

Title	DNA test kits sold over the counter in the UK. Predictably, blue-pill MSM whines "but what about the children?" (but what about the whorish women?)
Author	OuiCrudites
Upvotes	194
Comments	103
Date	September 9, 2012 4:03 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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