This is an unacceptable way of treating your son

ENTP · 2010-11-30T05:25:55+00:00

fuck I'm actually glad everyone can see this. This is what my childhood was like, and no one ever believed me. Yes for some people they don't want to see their family or look forward to seeing them because this is the shit they had to grow up with. I'm just glad its getting exposure.

rmbarnes · 2010-11-30T01:35:50+00:00

I don't care what religion she is, she shouldn't be allowed to put her kid under that kind of stress. This was downvoted to oblivion everywhere else. Why is that? Taking religion out of the question, why would anyone think this is appropriate?

corpseflower · 2010-11-30T05:24:12+00:00

Awesome thanks for that uplifting video... That's like my entire childhood except with more yelling and hitting.

Synaptic_Gap · 2010-11-30T05:24:32+00:00

WTF he is a little boy not a terrorist.

truthiness79 · 2010-11-30T04:18:53+00:00

what happened to just beating a kid when they do something wrong? hot sauce and cold showers seem like torture. with that said, my dad used to sit me down and just talk with me rationally when i did something wrong. i would feel like such a piece of shit at the end of these talks that i would wish he had actually beat me instead. i did get beat though, but only when i fought with my brothers. he was pretty big on family, which he drilled into me pretty well since i now feel the same way.

cornholiomangus · 2010-11-30T02:56:40+00:00

Would any of you find this acceptable if it was an elderly parent being treated this way? Children are people, too. In a few years, this kid will have nothing to do with "mom". Maybe by then "mom" will have a preference in cat food for dinner.

Pandaflo · 2010-11-30T02:47:47+00:00

This woman needs to be in jail. I think it should be just as difficult to have kids of your own as it is to adopt. Fuckhead parents like this should not exist.

wavegeekman · 2010-11-30T05:48:27+00:00

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BreakTheSun · 2010-11-30T05:45:33+00:00

This is an unacceptable way of treating ANYONE. Doesn't matter if it's your son, your daughter, your husband or your wife.

MiddleGrayStudios · 2010-11-30T05:54:49+00:00

Not sure of the kid's background, but adoption is very tough on a young buck regardless of what happened prior to the adoption. And now this kid isn't even accepted by his foster mother. Makes me sick. Hopefully, he won't end up in jail himself one day.

plagiaristic_passion · 2010-11-30T06:26:25+00:00

I had to switch it off when the kid started wailing, she's fucking torturing him.

hornfinger · 2010-11-30T09:52:50+00:00

Here is video evidence of this psychopath abusing, torturing, and traumatising a child. Why is she not in prison?

Sarstan · 2010-11-30T04:28:59+00:00

The simple fact is that this is child abuse. Perhaps even borderline torture, which happens to have very serious consequences in legal terms. I'm terribly disgusted that she is not in jail for this, and for Dr. Phil to bargain with her is absurd. Threatening to call CPS if she doesn't straighten out is not fixing it. HAVING CPS come then and there, after having footage of this very clear child abuse, and having her cuffed and behind bars is the only reasonable action to take in this matter.

AllieWonder · 2010-11-30T03:47:49+00:00

So she recognizes that she's doing wrong. Does she get the hot sauce? How about the cold shower, with Dr Phil...no, her 7 year old son, yelling at her the whole time?

ENTP · 2010-11-30T05:38:32+00:00

FUCK THAT CUNT

2010-11-30T09:43:33+00:00

I was raised in a similar manner. It just made me fearful of everything. I didn't develop any form of self esteem or confidence for a long, long time. I went to drugs to escape it...a LOT of drugs. I know a lot of people with very similar stories.

snooog · 2010-11-30T05:00:53+00:00

Is she serious with that hairdo?

elebrin · 2010-11-30T02:05:44+00:00

When she asks "do you get a cold shower when you DO behave" I wonder what the punishment would have been if he had said yes.

masonmason22 · 2010-11-30T03:25:28+00:00

Here's some followup that I found in one of the other threads for this video

horncologne · 2010-11-30T10:08:08+00:00

Oh man, that made me cry. My kids are getting extra hugs after school today.

banditandrew · 2010-11-30T06:23:38+00:00

This is totally child abuse.

waterfull · 2010-11-30T05:28:55+00:00

Someone call CPS on this stupid cunt

kloo2yoo · 2010-11-30T03:21:44+00:00

the child looks to be under 7 years old. I've asked one of the exmormon mods if there's a minimum age at whcih kids learn right from wrong. (catholic thought is that kids basically aren't clued before age 7)

eta: quote from one of the /exmormon mods:

Mormons baptize their kids at age eight and for us, 8 yrs old = 'the age of accountability'

2010-11-30T10:43:55+00:00

My mom is secular and her and her husband did very similar things to me. Instead of hot sauce it was soap though. Uncanny how the psycho bitch in the video sounds like my mom.

ozone_00 · 2010-11-30T11:08:20+00:00

I cringe when I hear the terms "good choices" and "bad choices" used with own children. It's like a mix of brainwashing and political correctness. Also that woman is a stone cold bitch.

I_call_it_like_it_is · 2010-11-30T03:14:01+00:00

If I came home and saw my wife doing this to my son, I would put her head through the wall.

Ma99ie · 2010-11-30T05:54:30+00:00

I don't like the way this woman treats her son. Maybe I should discipline her for a while.

2010-11-30T14:17:24+00:00

omg. same shit happened to me. soap. hot sauce. 2x4 spankings.

im now a 30 year old anarchist

:P

Soothsweven · 2010-11-30T14:27:59+00:00

Reckless endangerment of a child. Some horrid cunt of a parent around where I grew up used spices as a punishment like that. Her kid mouthed off at a Pizza Hut so she upended one of those spice jars they used to have at the table into his mouth. Kid's throat got so inflamed that he suffocated to death. Stupid asshole fucks should at least have the intellectual honesty to slap their kids around when they want to feel powerful instead of screwing around with potentially lethal shit they don't understand.

KBPrinceO · 2010-11-30T19:10:01+00:00

I HOPE THAT BITCH DIES IN AS HORRIBLE A FASHION AS POSSIBLE

cratheist · 2010-11-30T20:47:03+00:00

It isn't the punishments I find deplorable but the humiliation she seems to love. She is humiliating the child, not punishing him.

2010-11-30T09:23:32+00:00

None of us had "great" childhoods and to compare with disregard to the abuse and torture of this child is flippant. She is scarring him for the rest of his life in so many ways. Every time he sees hot sauce, a shower, a bathroom, the camera filming this crazy mess, etc, etc, etc. As a lover of food, she is also ruining any future for him to experiment with various foods throughout his life...despite relationships. Thank you, media, for exposing this cruel human being. May all of her children be taken away and healed. Hopefully, the gift from Mother Nature that allows us to remember more of the "good" things than "bad" will grace this child.

eltra27 · 2010-11-30T03:18:02+00:00

sad to say, but I hear a lot of parents put hot sauce in their kids mouths.

WithABaseballBat · 2010-11-30T08:53:48+00:00

Does anyone have a link to the rest of the video, showing what Doctor Phil says to her?

Dtrain323i · 2010-11-30T13:35:44+00:00

That woman is going to wind up dead when he hits about 14 or 15. He will go on to be cleared of the crime and release a line of successful hot sauces.

2010-11-30T14:26:21+00:00

What say we give her 10 lashes as a her punishment for "bad decisions"?...and then a cold shower!

thegreatgoldenbaby · 2010-11-30T14:56:41+00:00

i actually saw this when it aired (sadly) and man it just makes me go back to what i always say...

you need a license and a permit to go out in a boat and throw a piece of string into the water and catch a fish. but ANYONE, anyone, is alowed to have a child. and think about this, THAT KID WAS ADOPTED from Russia. So not only was that woman allowed to have those two little boys, they were practically fucking gift wrapped and handed to that psycho.

srm775 · 2010-11-30T15:48:00+00:00

Is this recent? Can we report her to the social services in her area? This is simply not on.

talkstojeebus · 2010-11-30T20:59:09+00:00

I'm 33. I used to get the hot sauce for lies and soap in the mouth for swears. I cried so hard about not being loved (those were the words I used, even at 3 years old) that i would get a terrible headache. This pain made me cry even more. Then, cold water dumped on me to shock me out of my crying and I would sit there shivering, lip quivering and head about to explode. Also, I was often given a choice of spanking or grounding. A few times I remember being locked outside crying and banging on the door to be let in. So yeah, I'm 33, had the same treatment as this kid.. and after all these years, I could barely watch. Thanks mom.

edit.. oh yeah, mormon background on my mom's side too.

ScrambledOvaries · 2010-11-30T21:37:59+00:00

I couldn't stand hearing the kid cry in the shower ; ____ ;

A_Whale_Biologist · 2010-12-01T00:17:19+00:00

No one will come to visit that woman in the retirement home.

2010-11-30T10:31:07+00:00

That's a good way to make a serial killer.

I'm starting to wonder if being a raging bitch is some kind of programming you receive when you become a Mormon. I work with this chick who is a Mormon and she is the biggest cunt I've ever met. She'll just say rude shit to you for no reason whatsoever. The funny thing is, her voice sounds EXACTLY like the woman in the video. Also, major bummer, she's pregnant.

bigun432 · 2010-11-30T14:33:59+00:00

That bitch would be going into home when i got older. No silver package for you.And when she died I'd sit in the room and just giggle.

Boris2k · 2010-11-30T10:22:36+00:00

wow, she's insane.

CRLewis · 2010-11-30T14:22:25+00:00

That's torture. ... 40 years without possibility of parole for child abuse.

http://www.dana.org/news/cerebrum/detail.aspx?id=3378

ignatiusloyola · 2010-11-30T16:15:46+00:00

Discipline is important, but there are effective and ineffective and abusive ways of disciplining a child.

This may just be somewhere between the latter two.

cfisi79 · 2010-11-30T18:23:01+00:00

One good thing I can say for the child is if he makes it to adulthood, he will have the whole world on his side and if his mother has any shame, she will become more and more ashamed with each passing year.

implosionotion · 2010-11-30T18:39:54+00:00

i always got hot-sauce (or dish soap, or a bite of dial brick) for being rude, swearing, and lying. my mother never interrogated me like that during the punishment, though. after i had been punished we would discuss why what i had done was unacceptable.

mutatedpuppy · 2010-12-01T22:28:26+00:00

That woman needs to be shot.

cdbaker · 2010-11-30T07:26:36+00:00

I don't have a crazy religious family - but when I swore as a kid (at least pushed it past what was reasonable) I got a mouth full of soap.

Honestly, made me want to swear less...

Despite that this woman looks bat shit insane, and while I can say there are better ways to discipline your kids than feeding them hot sauce/soap, I don't think my mother was some terrible human being for putting me in my place when I was being a little fucker.

mrstickman · 2010-11-30T05:02:22+00:00

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wondergay · 2010-11-30T22:55:28+00:00

FYI women are the most vindictive creatures on earth, not men.

specialkake · 2010-11-30T12:42:50+00:00

I love how in the follow-up, Dr. Phil tries to diagnose the kid with Reactive Attachment Disorder and Aspergers. There's nothing wrong with the parenting, he just needs to be medicated.

s0nicfreak · 2010-11-30T15:07:30+00:00

Is anyone saying this is abuse actually a parent? These methods may be a little "old school," but they certainly do not seem like abuse to me. (Sure, the kid is crying as if he is being tortured. My kids do that when they are in time out. Yes, it tugs at my heartstrings. That's why kids do it.) I'm going to assume she has tried the things that are acceptable punishment nowadays, such as time-outs. If that doesn't work with a kid, what can you do? Just let the kid run wild, interrupt class and hinder the other students' learning?

Personally my reaction would be to homeschool so that I could deal with his issues, but if you're not going to do that, what can be done?

dragonsandgoblins · 2010-11-30T15:32:30+00:00

You're all a bunch of flowers... Seriously? How about the implications of America's complex of not being able to say no to their children for fear of repercussion? Hot sauce and a cold shower, for fucks sakes, you don't even know what the frequency in which it was done. Point being, there are so many more, much worse things being done to children in this world to be focused on something so meager as this. There was a thread on that a day or two ago referencing this one to the tune of "this is child abuse, not hot sauce," and they had a point. That is all.

Title	This is an unacceptable way of treating your son
Author	emoprairiedog
Upvotes	120
Comments	178
Date	November 30, 2010 1:30 AM UTC (15 years ago)
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