The tragic fate of those poor ugly incels 💔

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I'm on the autism spectrum myself (Asperger's Syndrome). I had an uncle with real, hardcore, needs-assisted-living autism. Yes, I know not all autists will act like Chris Chan. Of course Chris was the result of a whole confluence of various things including both certain aspects of internet culture AND autism AND several other things I may not be entirely aware of (I only know about Chris Chan through summaries on wikis, and clearly there were many people who basically were bullying him for shits and giggles).

But the point is that with Chris, we're clearly dealing with an individual that has severely diminished capacities in several critical areas.

You, on the other hand, seem to just want to treat "ugly short men" as if they are 100% personally responsible for everything wrong in their lives (including their looks to some extent). Which really smacks of Just World Fallacy/Male Hyperagency.

EDIT: Oh, I did not blame everything Chris did on having autism. I said he cannot be held responsible for his autism.

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So you believe nothing Chris did was ever his okay and that people hate him because he's autistic and ugly, then?

That's not my position.

Regarding Chris Chan in particular, I confessed that I lacked deep familiarity with the case, and suggested that perhaps Chris Chan isn't a good example of the "typical" short and ugly dude because Chris Chan is also autistic and this is a complicating factor.

The individual case of Chris Chan really isn't the issue here. I'm saying that you seem to be utterly insistent that all short, ugly (and perhaps 'spergy) men have some sort of defect-of-the-soul that's entirely their own moral fault.

Are you willing to accept that there are, indeed, some men whom are short and ugly through no fault of their own, and that should they have personality defects these may in non-negligible part be due to how others treated them?

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I think the thing everybody is missing is that a lot of this stuff about themselves and other people being ugly or “subhuman” isn’t a value judgement but rather a commentary of how other people use these factors to make value judgements. The halo effect is so ingrained in you normies head that they think “ugly = bad”, bu in reality when we say this stuff to other incels it’s a simple recognition of the factors that have lead to the other experiencing the shitty circumstances they have had. And subhuman isn’t implying that other incels are truly less than human - it’s saying “Look man, we get that society has treated you as a subhuman because of factors outside of your control. In this space, we are all subhumans and we know what your experience is like, and it’s terrible.”

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Title	The tragic fate of those poor ugly incels 💔
Author	afflictuseternal
Upvotes	91
Comments	121
Date	January 1, 2022 5:22 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/rtntas/the_tragic_fate_of_those_poor_ugly_incels/
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