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Donbas men not allowed to evacuate

a-man-from-earth

February 24, 2022
190 upvotes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/22/europe/ukraine-russia-donbas-evacuees-intl/index.html
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Title Donbas men not allowed to evacuate
Author

a-man-from-earth

Upvotes 190
Comments 40
Date February 24, 2022 9:50 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/t0771h/donbas_men_not_allowed_to_evacuate/
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Comments

[–]Mr-X1 114 points115 points116 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You will probably not see any significant Feminist reaction against this.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate[S] 90 points91 points92 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

They'll blame men again.

[–]BabyYodasDirtyDiaper 72 points73 points74 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"Oh yeah? Well who made that decision and who's forcing them to stay? Other men!" in 3... 2... 1...

[–]sorebum405 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also, I don't think there is strong evidence to suggest that things would be different if women were in charge.In the past Queens waged wars more then kings, and the empathy gap applies to both men and women.So it has nothing to do with patriarchy like feminist say.It's just that people in general naturally see men as more disposable.

[–]Personwithaname420 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

feminists when they realize that the governor that made abortions illegal in alabama was a woman

[–]sneedchuckfuck 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Well, s-she's controlled by the patriarchy!"

[–]Man_of_culture_112left-wing male advocate 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An apex fallacy. No class consciousness.

[–]Algoresball 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well Putin is a man so clearly all the 16 year old boys who’s lives are getting thrown away are privileged because (insert absurd feminist logic)

[–]LettuceBeGrateful 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They already are on TwoX.

[–]PricklyGoober 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cue the white feathers..

[–]Man_of_culture_112left-wing male advocate 75 points76 points77 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Male privilege to be forced to die.

[–]revente 76 points77 points78 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

We have a saying in Poland:

No one is as scared of the mighty Russian army as Russian boys aged 18-27.

[–]Oncefa2left-wing male advocate 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's actually kind of funny, despite the context obviously.

[–]Algoresball 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gallows humor

[–]ExMuzzy 50 points51 points52 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

They’re being left to die ffs

Any of these men who escape will probably be called cowards too

[+]Vandechoz -32 points-31 points-30 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

hardly left to die, they're allies of the invading force and the other side isn't even mobilized for a fight

as warzones go, it sounds relatively safe

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate[S] 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

they're allies of the invading force

Only some of them are. It's still a mixed area. And even those who might be on the side of the invaders may not want to put their lives on the line to fight their neighbours.

[+]Vandechoz -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

have you heard any news of Ukraine fighting back in those regions, though?

[–]SupplimentalDevice 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

as warzones go, it sounds relatively safe

First time in history being shot in the head with a bullet is safe.

[+]Vandechoz -17 points-16 points-15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I said "relatively" for a reason

[–]ExMuzzy 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

relatively safe

So no need to evacuate anyone at all?

[+]Vandechoz -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

can't hurt to be overly cautious

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate[S] 132 points133 points134 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Last Friday, the leaders of the Russian-backed self-declared Donetsk and Luhansk republics -- which are not recognized by the West -- ordered the mass evacuation of women, children and the elderly, while barring men aged 18 to 55 from leaving.

While women are allowed to leave, men are not. Instead they are being mobilized into the separatist militias. This is a human rights violation.

[–]TintelFrootleft-wing male advocate 77 points78 points79 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is a human rights violation.

To us, but not to the people in power.

[–]Mr-X1 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The people in power tend to not believe in human rights.

[–]DrOrgasm 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, they do, but they're the only ones that are human.

[–]Oncefa2left-wing male advocate 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Isn't something similar happening in the rest of Ukraine?

Men weren't being forced into the army (not at the time anyway) but between certain ages they had to stay inside the country "just in case".

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate[S] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't be surprised.

[–]No_Seaworthiness9625 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't ever think you can count on the u.n and the other so called "human rights organizations".

[–]hottake_toothache 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We all know that if someone is going do die, it will be men. It always is.

[–]rammo123 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But Hillary told us that "women have always been the primary victims of war."

Surely a proud feminist wouldn't lie to us, would they?

[–]lightning_palmleft-wing male advocate 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not again...

[–]redgarnetamaranth 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Charles Michel said "women, men and children" during the NATO speech. Whether it was an accident or not, that's probably all we're getting.

[–]Idesmi 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's already something that they even mentioned men.

[–]Juhnthedevil 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same from Dominique de Villepin on France 2 direct about Ukraine.

[–]sake23456 46 points47 points48 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You know we live in a matriarchy when the news of abortion legalization in Columbia is all over the news, yet this isn't.

[–]Kutmandu_ 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ukraine government prohibits men aged 18 to 60 from leaving Ukraine

https://mvs.gov.ua/uk/news/shhodo-obmezen-v-peretini-kordonu-na-viyizd-z-ukrayini-okremoyu-kategorijeyu-gromadyan

Regarding restrictions on crossing the border to leave Ukraine by a certain category of citizens

24.02.2022 23:19

The State Border Guard Service of Ukraine reports that due to the imposition of martial law in Ukraine, the departure of a certain category of citizens from Ukraine is temporarily restricted.

In particular, male citizens of Ukraine aged 18 to 60 are prohibited from leaving Ukraine.

Such a rule will apply for the period of martial law.

We ask citizens to take this information into account.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not unexpected. Still sad.

[–]Sewblon 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The self-declared republics are not recognized by any government, including Russia. The Ukrainian government refuses to talk directly with either separatist republic. https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/18/europe/ukraine-russia-news-friday-rebel-evacuations-intl/index.html

These people do not have the authority to order anything. Detaining the 18 to 55 men of these areas is abduction. I am no expert on the law or politics of Ukraine. But if there is justice, the separatist leadership will be tried for these actions and punished.

[–]Krekushka -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Saddened by the comments here, such pettiness and insincerity. This is terrible and serious, very serious. This is murder, not something to bicker over and shouldn't be a reason to shit on people having nothing to do with it.

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