Woman blames "the patriarchy" for getting drunk.

happyness423 · 2022-06-18T12:48:15+00:00

“Everyone’s fault but mine.”

longhairedSD · 2022-06-18T12:56:43+00:00

Sounds like someone is in alcoholic denial.

63daddy · 2022-06-18T13:23:22+00:00

Given we don’t live in a patriarchy, the patriarchy can’t force her to drink. Of all the excuses I’ve heard people make attempting to excuse their drunkenness, this is the most ridiculous. It’s telling many readers actually support such nonsense.

rainbow_bro_bot · 2022-06-18T13:06:36+00:00

makes a deft and passionate argument that modern women drink to excess to escape the realities of living in a still-too-sexist world.

tbh this sounds like something an alcoholic would say to excuse their alcohol abuse. No alcoholic will ever admit to their problem, they always have an excuse for it.

"I'm not an alcoholic; I just drink half a bottle of wine in the morning, afternoon, evening and then a few more sherries and a gin and tonic to escape the pressures of blabla society blabla difficult life blabla"

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/i-thought-she-was-going-to-kill-me-no-justice-for-man-stabbed-by-woman-wielding-high-heel/news-story/b81e0b032cffd828c734754471c31faa

Also Australia seems to agree. A drunk woman stabbed a man in the head in an unprovoked attack. Sentence: $250 fine with no conviction recorded on her record.

DiversityIsDivisive · 2022-06-18T13:19:57+00:00

Did I get drunk last night because of the patriarchy?

Short answer: No

Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

veedub447 · 2022-06-18T13:59:45+00:00

We really need to send a letter to the Greater Chicago Patriarchy Chapter to stop getting women drunk, this is a clear rule violation, the Patriarchy is only allowed to get men drunk.

dumwitxh · 2022-06-18T13:00:51+00:00

lmao

Glass-Dimension-8827 · 2022-06-18T13:55:17+00:00

Nothing more off-putting to me than a woman who can’t handle her alcohol. I don’t drink, so maybe I’m biased, but gross. Even grosser to blame men for it. There’s a pandemic of blamelessness going around that is leading to the stupidity rates to rise. No accountability whatsoever. Just endless finger pointing and whataboutism.

BetterOffCamping · 2022-06-18T15:31:50+00:00

Interesting read. Other than the unthinking assumption that the patriarchy is a thing, it is a reasonable article casting doubt upon the idea that women drink because of patriarchy. She points out that in general people sometomes drink to deal with daily stress regardless of gender.

Now, if we can just end the "plotting" against men part.

stealthAndSpeed · 2022-06-18T13:09:02+00:00

Blaming society for your addiction is pathetic. Any woman that blames society for her drinking and depression is just looking to escape guilt. Just like any man that blames society for drinking or depression is just making excuses for their bad behaviour.

oncothrow · 2022-06-18T13:44:10+00:00

Oh man, I'm sorry, but after reading that, I'm going to get so very snide.

In it, writer Kristi Coulter makes a deft and passionate argument that modern women drink to excess to escape the realities of living in a still-too-sexist world. "I see that booze is the oil in our motors, the thing that keeps us purring when we should be making other kinds of noise," writes Coulter, who is now sober.

Wow. Unable to cope without booze.

So we're talking about that "still too sexist world. You know, I acknowledge quite easily that women in less developed countries have it harder, but they don't really have a women's drinking culture in most of them, at least compared to upper-middle class women in the States.

Which means that either they're far more resilient than you are, or you've got a serious alcohol problem.

Curiously, apparently alcohol for women is cast as a coping mechanism for dealing with the tortured existence of life in the Patriarchal hellscape, the sole source of succour to numb the pain of your truly desperate middle-class existence. However whenever I've seen the topic of alcoholism come up for men, it's just a sign of their inherent Patriarchal attitude and dominance, and personal failings (which they are allowed under the Patriarchy).

There is one part of the article that I agree with, although I suspect that this is unintentional on the author's part:

I don't think Coulter is entirely wrong. But it's also impossible to prove that she's right. Like most women who call themselves feminists, I know that living in a sexist world shapes my life and choices. It's probably why I feel "cleaner" with shaved legs and like to wear bright lipstick. In one specific instance, I'm pretty sure it's why I was denied a promotion. In most cases, though, when it comes to decisions I make, it's difficult to separate what is and isn't related to the patriarchy. Do I feel more powerful with short hair because of the patriarchy? Do I pick my cuticles when I get nervous because of the patriarchy? Do I have a distant relationship with my mom because of the patriarchy? Did I get drunk last night because of the patriarchy? Who knows.

"Who knows" indeed. When you see the Patriarchy in everything and cast its power as absolute, you literally cannot disprove that anything you've done or experienced is the result of it.

Everything you do, everything you think, everything you say, every bad thing that ever happened to you, somewhere, 2-3-4 links up that chain, is the Patriarchy, dictating all, destroying all. Choice is an illusion, personal responsibility as impossible a concept as for any slave.

On the podcast I co-host with my friend Aminatou Sow, we are often drinking wine as we record. Some episodes even feature the "glug, glug" noise of us refilling our glasses. In our online store, we sell a portable wine tumbler branded with our podcast logo. We also discuss the patriarchy a lot. I'd never considered that the two things might be related.

Let me know when you stop selling wine tumblers. You know, since it's Patriarchy that enforced this.

Even if they are, I'm not sure that's such a terrible thing. Perhaps it's because I've never had a drug or alcohol problem, but for me, drinking with other women isn't just coping or complacency.

Yeah, about that, could we rewind to that first paragraph again please? Thanks:

This morning I woke up with a hangover softly pulsing in my left temple. I took a quick inventory: Last night I went from happy-hour drinks with a former colleague (two glasses of rosé — or was it three?), then to dinner with a friend (another glass of rosé), then to a nightcap with another friend (a beer).

Uhm... does someone maybe want to tell her?

InterestingStation70 · 2022-06-18T21:51:34+00:00

Another example of how nobody denies women Agency like a Feminist.

Dunkolunko · 2022-06-18T14:19:13+00:00

That's funny, I became a misogynist because of a woman who drank

(Joke, I didn't become a misogynist but I did learn to hate abusive and toxic women)

WeEatBabies · 2022-06-18T14:12:09+00:00

Mam', this is a matriarchy!

2wicky · 2022-06-18T15:00:31+00:00

I now treat articles like this like a drinking game, except, every time I come across the word patriarchy, instead of taking a shot, I replace it with the word "the devil".

As in: "Maybe ~~patriarchy~~ the devil does drive us to drink, just as ~~patriarchy~~ the devil drives us to shave our legs and wear bright lipstick."

And for extra shots:

sexism => sinful

misogyny => heresy

misogynist => heretic

Once you turn them into religious texts, it unmasks the fact that they are not really offering any solutions, but are instead scapegoating their own responsibilities.

2022-06-18T19:49:52+00:00

You know what the first step is? Admitting that you are a feminist.

Above-Average-Foot · 2022-06-18T15:42:09+00:00

Sounds like a drunk whore

2022-06-18T19:46:57+00:00

How about, guys shoot up the school because the get rejected by women. It’s easy to play this morbid game.

NeoNotNeo · 2022-06-18T22:13:27+00:00

Must be fun to blame a fantasy for all your troubles.

alclarkey · 2022-06-18T22:52:46+00:00

Ooh, that's an interesting take. So since men tend to abuse alcohol and drugs more often than women, do we get to use her logic and say that there's actually more sexism against men?

A9SteakSauce · 2022-06-18T23:01:00+00:00

imagine using the patriarchy to blame for your substance abuse problem

Get a fucking life lmfao

rosewiththornzzz · 2022-06-18T23:33:55+00:00

Who is that lady to speak for women like this? I don’t drink because I live in a sexist society. I drink because my work (which is all female employees btw because few men in my town take interest in working at a library) stresses me the fuck out. I drink because I have GAD which is a mental issue. I drink because I dislike myself, not because of “societal expectations of what a woman is” but because my family made me the black sheep. I drink to get away from reality for a few minutes. I don’t drink because of the “patriarchy” because there is no patriarchy. The lady who wrote that article was WAY out of line. Also ive never read that article so the gal that this was about was also out of line in saying most women have to have read this. And I don’t want to read it

broadsharp · 2022-06-19T03:52:36+00:00

Accountability anyone? Bueller…Bueller…

Lake-Solid · 2022-06-19T06:23:28+00:00

If by living in a patriarchy you mean that masculinity is the dominant drive that fosters and intelligent environment where people can navigate their own decisions to make the best hopeful outcome for that environment, yes I suppose we do live in a patriarchy. These sort of people need to stop pretending like woman can't learn to be masculine by some measure and have to essentially be treated like children every which way.

If thats too much of a problem, which I wish it wasn't, maybe you should stay in your living room. :/

Kryptic_Tron · 2022-06-19T12:01:32+00:00

“My Grandma died cus she accidentally strangled herself with a wire” The DAMN patriarchy!

GltyUntlPrvnInncnt · 2022-06-18T15:13:58+00:00

Yes, the patriarchy held a gun to her head and made her drink. She's obviously a victim here. /s if needed.

Temporary_Spend_3111 · 2022-06-18T15:22:18+00:00

I too was afraid of accountability. When i was a child and a young teen. Honestly bruh how do people write shit like this unironically

TheBigBootyTheory · 2022-06-18T15:35:36+00:00

This was almost ten years ago. Is an opinion piece. You want to find an issue. This isn't it. Focus on real issues, like how the 13th amendment still allows slavery which affects men the most.

"bUt HeR oPiNiOn!!!" go ahead and downvote me lol. lmao, even.

Indigostorm27 · 2022-06-18T15:47:16+00:00

It was 2016 post current news not some old blog by a nobody

StingRayFins · 2022-06-18T18:22:32+00:00

Always strong and independent but never able to be responsible for anything and is always a victim of everything.

It'll never make any sense.

DirtyPartyMan · 2022-06-18T15:27:36+00:00

PTSD.

Service animal.

Hero.

Rape.

Four words that once held significance. Four words that would elicit deep emotional reactions but are now so much less so.

Let’s add Patriarchy to this list and watch as its impact and significance lessens as well

2022-06-18T15:35:34+00:00

Marxism. Pure and simple.

AnteatersAreAwesome · 2022-06-18T13:03:06+00:00

Have you actually read the article?

Present_Hospital_507 · 2022-06-18T18:36:05+00:00

-Merasmus- · 2022-06-18T18:42:01+00:00

I mean all she sais is she drinks to forget her problems, which is something almost everyone does at some point; wheter it is to forget about "the patriarchy" or actually existing ones.

Svensonsan2 · 2022-06-18T19:47:53+00:00

3 crna tomislava

JackeTuffTuff · 2022-06-18T22:21:10+00:00

Meeting and old colleague (and friend i suppose): What a horrible world We live in, I must bury myself in alcohol

Bullshit that woman just drank something for some special occasions and have a very low tolerance for alcohol

matrixislife · 2022-06-18T23:26:40+00:00

Can we have a rule addition, all source links via archive? I really begrudge giving crap like that article even 1 click.

DiversityIsDivisive · 2022-06-18T23:40:47+00:00

Oh man, and this was a mere five day before America diss troyed itz duhmockrasee by electing Orange Hitler! I'm sure she's in the grave by now from liver failure. "The Patriarchy Made Me Do It"

Bannedtsy · 2022-06-19T02:45:05+00:00

I get why you posted this. But you shouldn't have. It literally just got a fucking nutjob extra clicks. Doesn't matter how we feel or what we say about it. It got extra views and that only helps the crazy woman who wrote it.

kafeinn · 2022-06-19T06:08:41+00:00

This person sick, toxic and disgusting.

wanthonio31 · 2022-06-19T06:17:11+00:00

Do we just create journalist opportunities for anybody now? Don't get me started on that article itself too. Imagine manufacturing something as a patriarchy to evade whatever accountability for your habits.

Big_Chocolate_420 · 2022-06-19T06:32:26+00:00

so if a can woman choose to drink, she lives in a patriarchy?

And in the past women were not allowed to drink.

They started drinking with the feminist uprising.

This means...feminists established the patriarchy. Dum Dum Dum.

Spare_Following_8982 · 2022-06-19T07:54:49+00:00

introduction:

I felt the twinge of a hangover, I immediately thought of an essay that I — and, judging by Facebook and Twitter, almost every woman I know — read recently.

disregard all ideas, this woman lives online

MastermindX · 2022-06-19T11:53:34+00:00

The best part of this article is how much she humble-brags about her life, which apparently consists of having meetings in coffee-shops, eating expensive Spanish food and wine, and then going out to drink cocktails in the middle of the week, while at the same time complaining about how oppressed she is and how she needs those drinks to escape her horrible reality.

Pick a lane, you can't brag about your wonderful life and in the same article complain that your life is terrible.

WingsofSky · 2022-06-19T18:35:17+00:00

I wonder if all men actually left the planet and traveled elsewhere. Would women still be blaming *men* for all their mistakes and troubles?

thefujirose · 2022-06-20T22:34:15+00:00

Doubt. This is totally Satire

Title	Woman blames "the patriarchy" for getting drunk.
Author	veedub447
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Date	June 18, 2022 12:39 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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