A third of female daters are only there for the free meal

elebrin · 2022-10-27T06:22:57+00:00

That's why a first date should be something like a walk in the park. That's also easy to cut short if it's not working out.

Ok-Translator2294 · 2022-10-27T07:41:36+00:00

It is what we've always known. The only reason we still debate about who pays is because some women only want freebies. If they didn't, they'd happily pay their share and forget about it.

Also remember how the debate is often about it the man should pay or if they should split the bill, woman paying is rarely mentioned.

If a woman can do everything that a man can, what's stopping them from paying the whole bill?

Also when they do pay, it's not always in good faith. As you can see here

OriginalHuckleberry3 · 2022-10-27T06:22:22+00:00

Coffee is a great first date Or Stop paying.

Simple Fix

2020bowman · 2022-10-27T08:22:23+00:00

Drinks is better.

If the lady doesn't at least offer.... she's done.

delocalelectron · 2022-10-27T08:37:00+00:00

They've got the same money as we have, it's illegal to pay them less. So, they can dig deep, or become an out-of-dater.

Magical-Hummus · 2022-10-27T09:46:14+00:00

That's why you agree before the date to split the bill. If she is 100% reluctant, then that is an easy skip.

bfte2 · 2022-10-27T13:12:25+00:00

Toxic mascu.... No wait!...

Salad-undressing · 2022-10-27T11:39:11+00:00

Are we supposed to be dating? I thought dating was supposed to have a purpose, like marriage.

Electronic_Demand_61 · 2022-10-27T13:17:56+00:00

If I pay the bill I expect her to pick up the tip, then I judge on how well she tips.

lectrohS_naisA · 2022-10-27T11:50:07+00:00

You're an idiot if you pay for someone else's meal. Go 50/50 or don't bother.

Another_Basic_NPC · 2022-10-27T12:16:43+00:00

I made a YouTube video, and I said splitting is ideal, or the person who asks out the other pays but just the first time. This is also why a coffee or drinks is great! Anyway, I got a bunch of comments telling me I'm dead wrong, because of the time and preparation it takes for a woman to "doll" up. Yet, I can blow through 50-100 dollars in a night "because I'm supposed to" and never hear from them again? Errrh no.

Splitting is ideal as I want someone who is independent, or If I get drinks, maybe she grabs the movie tickets. Fair is fair!

BrokeMacMountain · 2022-10-27T11:18:30+00:00

I hVe a crazy idea, but stick with me. What if, and hear me out, what if..... the woman paid? huh? huh? yeah? instead of the man always oaying cor everything, the woman offered to pay instead? that would be "empowering" for her, and provide a lavel, equal playing field.

O know, the concept is bonkers, but just imagine a going on a date where both people are treated as equal. /s

shit-zen-giggles · 2022-10-27T10:01:57+00:00

So next time you’re finishing up a first date, you might want to make sure to split the bill.

That's a new tone, I haven't heard before in a mainstream news source.

Kwarntnd · 2022-10-27T15:37:10+00:00

In both groups, the researchers noted that those who engage in ‘foodie calls’ also scored highly in ‘dark triad’ personality traits - which are linked to “deceptive and exploitative behaviour”.

You dont say.

miraculous- · 2022-10-27T12:23:01+00:00

My mate took a fem out for a meal and she was messaging her next date for a club later that night as she was eating. He asked for the bill, paid and then left.

Longjumping_Fly_2978 · 2022-10-27T13:41:21+00:00

Only one third? That looks like way too optimistic. I'd say 99%

Snippychicken22 · 2022-10-27T15:32:06+00:00

# breakdowngenderstereotypesbymakingherpay

Striking-Path-8304 · 2022-10-28T05:13:01+00:00

Tell these women that by not offering to pay they're upholding the patriarchy.

But again, most women are completely fine with it as long as they're the primary beneficiaries.

sharksville · 2022-10-27T08:59:26+00:00

Fact. Back when I was in the dating scene I would only pay for what I had no matter the total amount. Some people say that hat for first dates do something else other than go on a dinner date, but for me I thought it was a good way to see her character. First date would be dinner and I’d pay my own share and let her worry about her bill. And I’d make it known that I’m only gonna pay my own bill on the first date

xsplizzle · 2022-10-27T15:08:31+00:00

I wonder what the cross section is between the 'all men are rapists' crowd, the 'kill all men' crowd and the 'all men are free meals crowd'

high i would imagine.

Slibye · 2022-10-27T12:40:54+00:00

If a someone doesn’t offer to pay, split, or pay for her own… then they are there for a free meal (personal experience)

carverchile75 · 2022-10-27T21:16:05+00:00

Coffee for first date, especially if online dating--makes sense, low stakes, see if there's any chemistry and confirming they're not actually a 65 year old trucker dude named Bill. Can convert to a walk in the park/neighborhood. Had one gal say no, she wanted a "real" date, and I said no thanks.

I always offer to pay but do take positive note when they offer to pay or split. I'm totally good with an agreement that they get the next one.

Current gf makes about the same as me, but has fewer expenses. She's super egalitarian but oddly only offers to pay about a quarter of the time. Kind of drives me nuts...its not break-up worthy, but its not her best trait. I mean, the whole "equality only when it benefits you" is a pretty common trait among humanity generally.

SpicyNippss · 2022-10-27T23:14:20+00:00

I always buy ice cream or coffee. Cheap, and it weeds out the sociopaths that think it's okay to use people.

jusdiffy · 2022-10-28T01:43:55+00:00

Nothing good or sincere will ever come from women. If they do go to you, it's cos they need something.

skllyskullstyle · 2022-10-28T04:17:14+00:00

Wow. Its true. It really is true. I have always had this feeling that this would be true. Here is the evidence. Looks like us men really are being manipulated and taken advantage of. Its so hard to take in but its true.

This should show that people who say that we live in a patriarchy or grant value towatds feminism are delusional. There is just no way. Thank so much for showing us evidence sir. One last thing before i head out.

"Women will not help you finish the race. They will only wait for you at the finish line." And

"By all means marry. If you marry a good wife, you become happy. If you marry a bad wife, you become a philosopher."

uthinkwrong · 2022-10-27T13:13:53+00:00

Money (and free meals) can't buy love

Woozuki · 2022-10-27T13:10:24+00:00

Go MGTOW!

Mycroft033 · 2022-10-27T15:42:42+00:00

As Joker would say: shooooocking

CawlinAlcarz · 2022-10-27T17:25:56+00:00

Heh... only a third? Seems underestimated.

Royal_IDunno · 2022-10-27T20:08:37+00:00

This is why when I go dating again I WON’T be paying for my dates lunch or drinks.

usaslave · 2022-10-27T23:59:07+00:00

At this point, all guys should insist on going Dutch for any first date. Or only doing coffee.

Vulturo · 2022-10-27T14:02:14+00:00

A third of them have the gumption to actually admit it. Actually most of them are.

pappo4ever · 2022-10-27T18:19:46+00:00

Think about how they subject themselves to the indignity of dating someone for food, It's incredible how broke most women are. No matter how much help and support they get from the state and corporations and divorces, women hate work and still prefer to be fed by men.

Do you see homeless guys dating gays for food? no. But women do this all the time.

the-lone-squid · 2022-10-27T12:25:32+00:00

I’m surprised it’s only 1/3..

Cybralisk · 2022-10-27T15:17:49+00:00

Not from me they aren't. All they are getting is maybe a free coffee.

bcoco120 · 2022-10-27T11:49:21+00:00

I'm 21 so maybe my generation is different but girls my age pays their stuff everytime

bionicmook · 2022-10-27T16:01:53+00:00

Firstly, who goes out with someone they aren’t into just for a free burger or something? I would never. I don’t suffer fools easily, so if I’m not into a man, I’m not going to spend two or three hours with him just to save fifteen or twenty bucks. Anyways…

The way I see it, I never expect a guy to pay on a date in this day and age. It’s 2022, and it seems a bit archaic (or at the very least, old fashioned) to expect a gentleman to cover date expenses.

When I’m on a date, if the man offers to pay, I will probably accept his offer. (I would decline if It seemed like he was just being polite and clearly did not want to put forth the gesture, or if I knew for a fact he was struggling financially, or even if we just hadn’t really hit it off.) If I offer to pay, I would expect the man to accept my offer. If no says anything when the bill comes, I will assume we’re each paying for ourselves. So, if he offers, I accept. If I offer, he should accept. No offers, we split it.

nacho-chonky · 2022-10-28T02:06:33+00:00

I always took girls out for coffee on a first date, only costs a couple of bucks, Men who spend a bunch of money on a women on a first date are dumb. This isn’t a mens rights issue, this is a don’t be dumb issue

bionicmook · 2022-10-27T16:59:07+00:00

After reading some of the comments I have one more thought:

The concept of men paying for dates comes from a time when the vast majority of women didn’t work. Most all women work now, so it’s not longer needed for men to pay. That doesn’t mean it’s not a nice gesture if a man does pay, or if a woman wants to pay for the man. Some women find old fashioned notions romantic and gentlemanly. Some women prefer to be generous and offer to treat her date to a night out. It just depends on the couple. What is true for all new couples, is that it’s 2022, and no one should expect to be treated. Just play it by ear and see what happens. I’m a server/bartender, and I would say most date checks nowadays are usually split, but there are exceptions. Just do what’s right for you.

saito200 · 2022-10-27T14:07:24+00:00

I'm pretty sure no man is forced at gun point to pay for a date

Flimsy-Walrus-1326 · 2022-10-27T22:55:09+00:00

LMFAOOOO ME I DO THIS

EmirikolWoker · 2022-10-27T06:27:36+00:00

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2022-10-27T15:49:16+00:00

It’s called a foodie call 😂

DeVaudevilleVillain · 2022-10-27T16:12:04+00:00

This is why a first date should always either not be food related or you agree to go Dutch on the bill. If she refuses to split the check, then you know why she said yes in the first place and can move on without any doubts. The ones that only go out with you for a free meal usually aren’t worth the effort in my experience.

vwatchrepair · 2022-10-27T16:13:50+00:00

How many guys have the slightest thought in their head that they could leave home and get a meal, a drink, or even a piece of bubble gum if they had no money on them. I cannot even fathom this idea at all. Unicorns are more real to me than this idea.

Icy-Start5536 · 2022-10-27T16:42:14+00:00

If you want to make easy money just open a restaurant where each person is required to pay for himself using a different card per transaction. All men would go there on a date

The_Namez_B · 2022-10-27T16:50:08+00:00

Split the bill or pay for yourself. That should help weed them out.

dancetoken · 2022-10-28T15:48:42+00:00

imagine hitting up one of your boys to get drinks at a bar, and dude expects you to pay for him.

id be flabergasted

J_KILLA89 · 2022-10-29T15:10:51+00:00

And this is why I only take chicks to Starbucks for a first date

NotARussianBot1984 · 2022-11-16T13:00:23+00:00

Simple, if you use men for free food, dont complain about being pumped and dunped, that entitled attitude carries to other partners.

Title	A third of female daters are only there for the free meal
Author	KCorporation
Upvotes	469
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Date	October 27, 2022 6:19 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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