Is this RP statistic true?

HappyRainbowSparkle · 2023-01-31T04:25:55+00:00

Presumably this is American women only?

Why does this source have the authority on what is a worthless degree?

Late on what exactly?

What's so terrible about number 4?

Single mums, why are they always to blame let's look at the dads as well.

Std whats the comparison to men having them?

Comparison to men who are mentally ill or have "mutilated " their bodies? I don't think being on anti depressants is a red flag at least that person has made the effort to improve their current state.

Also not every man sees these as red flags or deal breakers so the whole who will men date is odd

Maddzilla2793 · 2023-01-31T04:30:00+00:00

Not sure if I explain this well but long story short. It doesn’t even matter majority of these are cherry picked and doesn’t not fully interpret the data properly.

You need to see full statistically studies to interpret data, you need to look at the sample size, you need to look at the cross tabulations (an example the university of Chicago that has been shared in red pill spaces where they say younger men are having less sex ever before but if you look at the entire cross tabulation and demographics data, it actually shows older men are having more sex than ever before)

You also need to look at who did the study, the methodology and so on. And you need to understand the limitations of data collection.

Understanding demographic statistics

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demographics.asp

Cherry picking data

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1049732309354285

Here are examples from the stats you are stating which are cherry picked.

#1

Nearly 1 in 3 adults (30.7%) are overweight.

More than 1 in 3 men (34.1%) and more than 1 in 4 women (27.5%) are overweight.

More than 2 in 5 adults (42.4%) have obesity (including severe obesity).

About 1 in 11 adults (9.2%) have severe obesity.

The percentage of men who are overweight (34.1%) is higher than the percentage of women who are overweight (27.5%).

The percentage of women who have severe obesity (11.5%) is higher than the percentage of men who have severe obesity (6.9%).

So from this, both are overweight. Just women tend to be more overweight.

https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity

#2

With 61% of the field’s (humanities) degrees going to women, the humanities were most akin to the fine and performing arts (62%) in the representation of women among bachelor’s degree recipients in 2015. The health and medical sciences (with 84%), education (72%), and social sciences (63%) each had a greater share of women completing degrees in the field than the humanities, while engineering (19%) and business and management (47%) had substantially smaller shares.

Yes, women hold a high percentage of humanities and liberal arts degrees but they also hold a high rate of STEM degrees too such as in health and medical science and eduction.

https://www.amacad.org/humanities-indicators/higher-education/gender-distribution-bachelors-degrees-humanities

Here is an example of why you need to read a full study around the statistics and get the full picture. I used #5 as ab example.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/04/25/the-changing-profile-of-unmarried-parents/

Here is an example of why statistical analysis especially qualitative data has its limitations. The example I drew this from is #7 on your list.

“Women tend to have higher rates of internalizing disorders (i.e., depression, anxiety), while men experience more externalizing symptoms (i.e., violence, substance abuse). These patterns are often attributed to gender differences in socialization (including the acquisition of expectations associated with traditional gender roles), help seeking, coping, and socioeconomic status. However, measurement bias (inadequate survey assessment of men’s experiences) and clinician bias (practitioner’s subconscious tendency to overlook male distress) may lead to underestimates of the prevalence of depression and anxiety among men. Continuing to focus on gender differences in mental health may obscure significant within-gender group differences in men’s symptomatology. In order to better understand men’s lived experiences and their psychological well-being, it is crucial for scholars to focus exclusively on men’s mental health.”

And from the introduction “Most research in gender and mental health supports two findings: (a) men and women have approximately equal rates of disorder overall (at least among the disorders that have been assessed; Rieker, Bird, & Lang, 2010; Rosenfield & Smith, 2009) and (b) men and women tend to experience different kinds of psychiatric illnesses (Rosenfield & Mouzon, 2013; Rosenfield & Smith, 2009; Rosenfield, Vertefuille, & Mcalpine, 2000).”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5734543/

FellasImSorry · 2023-01-31T04:22:45+00:00

Now do the percentage of men who sexually assault women.

mikayrodr · 2023-01-31T05:15:40+00:00

My degree is in liberal arts and I make 100k…. Seems useless I guess LMFAO

waffleznstuff30 · 2023-01-31T06:40:39+00:00

Most people in the US are overweight. It's an epidemic. It's due to a lack of quality food. Since most "healthy" options tend to be more expensive. and most people are working and therefore not active.
Worthless to who? If you have a degree and you are advancing in your field that's something no? I don't really know.
A lot of people will forget a payment? Life is busy as long as you pay it back as soon as you can. But a lot of people have missed a payment.
A lot of women are feminists. Feminist does not mean man hating. In fact it's sympathetic to men's issues such as toxic masculinity, addressing men's mental health paternity rights (in how it relates to mens gender roles). And trying to undo those systems.
40% may be single moms. But what of the dads who made them single moms? Fatherlessness is an issue in today's society yes.
HSV-1 (oral cold sores) sure it's around 50% of the population while men are around 49%. This is according to the CDC. But only 15.9% of a sample size have HSV-2(genital herpes). So it's not that high.
Antidepressant use isn't a red flag. That's someone treating their mental illness and shouldn't be seen as a bad thing. It's controlling a sickness. If you develop arthritis in your knee are you less of a person because you need medicine to help with living your day to day. Why is mental health regarded as bad if someones taking proactive approaches to treating and managing their illness.
Tattoos are bodily mutilation now? I thought it was like art work or the human equivalent of bumper stickers. Lol 🤣 that's a stretch. Getting tattoos isn't cheap. And if she can afford her ink habit she probably works a decent job. I'm in that 15% percentile. I have 4 tattoos and 7 piercings? It's not really bodily mutilation. It's self expression? It means she's got some pizazz and sounds fun.

Mean_Mechanic9889 · 2023-01-31T05:38:41+00:00

Too many questions: what country? County? Demographic?

It's certainly not world wide. It's certainly not my country (UK)

I don't even think 80% of woman could possibly have degrees, let alone all useless. Did it mean 80% of woman with degrees. It wasn't written that way and going off modern professional demographics, would also be untrue. Does 80% of the world wide population even have a degree of any sort? No

As a woman. It makes me too scared to date or even talk to men, because this is horrible. Why are some men. And I can't tell which ones, creating such hateful and scientifically inaccurate stuff?

Can you think to your self. What motives someone to look for or create these statistics.

How would you feel about a woman picking very extreme statistics on negatove male traits, from bizzare tiny comunitues, or making them up (I feel like these are probs essentially made up) and presenting as all mens inherent flaws.

How would it make you feel? What would you think of woman spreading hateful stuff like this? Why would you think they're doing it?

I wish you the best but I think I'm gonna have to leave this sub. Its too much to keep hearing all these fully hateful and clearly fake ideas of woman. It's horrible, and these guys don't even respect woman enough to believe them about their sexuality, thoughts etc. it makes me feel unsafe. And tbh I'm considering if maybe I could go gay. I'm 100% serious. The damage seeing these hateful lies from men about woman, for what reason? I wanted to help you guys who realise it's off and learn about how these thoughts on woman can even be entertained as real (i just cant compute how anyone believes this stuff/ lives like this is true, or wants to?) but honestly this is making me hate society (to a dangerous piont) and I can't cope. Sending best wishes.

Please do good.

SweelFor- · 2023-01-31T06:57:49+00:00

It doesn't even matter if the percentages presented are correct or not.

You should criticise what those criterias even mean in the first place. You should criticise why they only apply to women and not men. You should use your god damn brain.

Someone who posts this and apparently makes use of 0 critical thinking, I would say is 100% a red flag.

tpobs · 2023-01-31T09:55:06+00:00

In dating, statistic means jack shit. How many women you are dating? Usually just one.

tromp-et · 2023-01-31T10:40:43+00:00

You can make a similar sort of list about modern men

tyranthraxxus · 2023-01-31T18:31:25+00:00

Hi, I'm a modern man, and only number 5 would be a deal breaker for me, because I just don't want kids.

Based on this list, I think you are wildly misusing the term "modern". I think you meant antiquated, because this all looks like tradcon garbage.

CuntessadiCunti · 2023-01-31T14:17:46+00:00

If this is your mindset then you're a dealbreaker for women, so congrats you've already taken yourself out of the running to begin with. Why are you even worrying about women having dealbreakers when you're not even a suitable candidate for them yourself in the first place??? If you can automatically disqualify a whole demographic on the basis of a bunch of random alleged stats that are given ZERO context whatsoever and not even consider that there's more to the story - then you're a feeble-minded niggling fool.

#2,3, 4 & 8 are especially dumb. God forbid being late on a bill once!! You know when you're paying college tuition, trying to keep up with skyrocketing housing costs, and not blessed with the fortune of wealthy parents it's totally unreasonable to be late paying a bill- EVER! Those people who missed paying a bill, may they be damned to hell. Literally the dumbest metric whatsoever. You know I know multiple people who had absolutely shitty credit who were able to climb into the 700s in just a couple years? That stat is fucking meaningless as far as I'm concerned. Are you even an adult who pays for all their own living expenses? Cuz for you to be so blissfully oblivious of why it's understandable someone might be late paying a bill makes it sound like you've never had to support yourself in any real capacity.

And god forbid someone attend school and not get a degree in the STEM field, we have absolutely no need for teachers to educate our kids, social workers to advocate for foster kids, or mental health professionals to help people with their problems.

The tattoo shit is also the most arbitrary nonsense ever. Clearly US law enforcement, military and most professional jobs don't think they're any kind of judgement of character, since they've gotten rid of those disqualifications.

Seriously, just do a favor for everyone involved and withdraw yourself from any participation in relationships with women. They don't need you and they certainly don't need to convince you of their worthiness.

You do realize there's a whole other 50% of the population out there if you hate women so much?? No one is stopping you from pursuing men. Eat your heart out.

steppenwolf123 · 2023-01-31T16:21:24+00:00

So you want a woman, that has wealth, status, engineering/finance (not sure about that one though, finance foesnt contribute much to society, make you earn good money though)/medical/law degree, while having republican, antifeminst views. Is also in good shape, emotionally stable and mature. At the same time this woman needs to desire guy, that will manipulate her and treat her, to quote one RP youtuber "like a puppy", thats cute, but not serious partner.

In other words RPers want a woman that will worship them, and at the same time be emotionally mature and have high self esteem. In that sense, yes, RPers are doomed, because those are contradictory requirements

Naus1987 · 2023-01-31T12:54:31+00:00

The worst part about this is how obviously biased and judgemental it is, and people believe this shit, or are even on the fence about believing it.

While some of the numbers could be true. You have to think more critically on the language used and use your brain.

If a piece of media says "a degree is worthless" what does that mean? What definition are they using? You have to think-critically on the concept that whoever wrote that is probably using a skewed bias to decide what's worthwhile and what's worthless.

And then once you figure out the author isn't being factual, you should recognize that a lot of the other information could be sus too.

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Furthermore, a lot of these statistics (if true, but unlikely) would also apply to men. Red Pill struggles greatly with blasting women, but ignoring men.

Even if we consider that a lot of women are overweight. Much more than there should be, there's no denying that a lot of men are overweight as well.

Women have mental illness? Yeah, so do a lot of men. HOW OFTEN do we see in groups like this that a guy wants to date, but has anxiety or depression, and doesn't want to ask a woman out? Having depression or anxiety is a mental illness.

Then for the STD's, if a woman has one, so too does a guy. But I thought asymptomatic herpes affected like 90% of the population or something. I thought it was one of those crazy facts. I don't know. I'm asexual, I don't really worry about STDs, lol

Honestly, just keep your standards high. Judge people as individuals. Ask a woman out. Go on a date, if she has red flags, you politely yet firmly leave the situation. No one needs to string anything along longer than it needs to be.

fathergoose77 · 2023-01-31T15:32:42+00:00

Statistics are a science/math and can be easily skewed and misinterpreted to those unfamiliar with how to conduct it and design valid studies.

I can say 100% of men like cats. If you look at how I got that statistic, I was by surveying my co-worker and I who are in the office. So, it is true that 100% of men that were surveyed in my office this morning like cats. HOWEVER, this statistic would not be relevant or generalizable to the rest of the population.

So now when you see these stats, you have no idea how the data was collected, who was it collected from, where was it collected, and were the questions asked to collect data reliable in that they are really measuring what they are trying to collect.

Lastly, since stats is a math/science, why are you choosing to believe some random dude who isn’t accredited in any scientific field? I don’t listen to Lebron James to learn chemistry. Do you see how ridiculous that is? Ask these questions to medical doctors and psychologists. Plus, many of these would also be applicable to men (obesity rates are high for everyone in the US, not just women), so why are you deciding to single out women in these stats like they are some kind of unknown species and these stats wouldn’t be relevant to you or other men at all? That is blatant sexism.

The internet has really ruined the beauty of statistics.

mikayrodr · 2023-01-31T05:20:06+00:00

“HSV-2 infection is more common in women (approximately 1 out of 5 women) than in men (almost 1 out of 9). This may be because male-to-female transmission is easier than female-to-male transmission”

mikayrodr · 2023-01-31T05:21:27+00:00

During 2015–2018, 13.2% of adults aged 18 and over used antidepressant medications in the past 30 days. Use was higher among women (17.7%) than men (8.4%).

Inareskai · 2023-01-31T14:51:10+00:00

Are you familiar with the phrase 'Lies, damn lies, and statistics'?

ArtemisMinion1 · 2023-01-31T14:53:30+00:00

They are probably mostly true, but look at how skewed they are..

A tattoo is body mutilation?!?!

How are they getting the stats on herpes that is not showing symptoms?!?!

“Useless degrees” rather than a probably low income degree.

kemonocel · 2023-01-31T08:18:23+00:00

Looks like thats in murica. Over there

Sad_Apple_1911 · 2023-01-31T17:30:00+00:00

There is an age difference, but there are no differences between men and women.
Why would a woman want to date a man who disdains intellect? It's mostly engineering where men are overrepresented (most men don't study engineering either, so it doesn't say much about women but rather a specific subtype off men) but women are the majority in almost all universities.
Is it any different for men?
Don't you think those women consider it a problem that a smaller percentage of men are democratic or feminist?
This sounds weird.
Same goes for men, apparently most humans have herpes iirc.
Women have a higher rate of internalised disorders such as anxiety and depression yes.
So? You can remove that. Where I live, the percentage is far higher fwiw.

Title	Is this RP statistic true?
Author	prolific1997
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Date	January 31, 2023 4:08 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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