Electronic Arts Eliminates Billions of Dollars of Shareholder Value to Promote Gender Friendly Fictional Female Soldiers Who Fight in WWII

throwaway95001 · 2018-12-17T01:19:07+00:00

There is a cool movie about what women did during WWII. It is called "A League of Their Own". It stars Tom Hanks and Madonna.

M_Justice · 2018-12-17T02:09:24+00:00

Only in Russia, which had a squad of female snipers. But they did not engage in melee combat during WW II and were forbidden to go to the front line,

Akesgeroth · 2018-12-17T01:56:14+00:00

"but... but... there were women soldiers everywhere in ww2...." - feminists

yeah. what a crock of shit.

But, EA's gotta get their progressive jollies off.

the people have spoken. EA's going to be fighting this uphill battle for a while.

andejoh · 2018-12-17T02:16:06+00:00

"this audience gave over 500K down-votes to the trailer and vowed not to purchase the game"

They should believe men.

KorvisKhan · 2018-12-17T10:21:09+00:00

Do I need consent to shoot the females in this game? I'm so confused. How does this work?

slixx_06 · 2018-12-17T05:55:08+00:00

Women did loads of important stuff in WW2 that meant that the war effort as a whole was successful. Off the top of my head they worked in factories, farms, as air wardens, as nurses, in bletchley park, in the battle of britain as Wrafs. Even some combat roles as resistance/spies in France. If EA wanted to show the importance of women's contribution then the obvious thing to do would be to represent these parts of the war in the game and if the player thought "these are crap I am not interested" then show him the effect of not producing enough/good enough munitions on the soldier on the front line for example. That way you stay true to history, enlighten the player, make the game more varied and show just how important women were to the war effort. Instead what they did was lie and try and rewrite history, its so stupid and baffling from a capitalist perspective and totally counter productive from a feminist perspective.

MyOtherTagsGood · 2018-12-17T05:46:51+00:00

Less a men's rights issue and more of a stupid way to use artistic licensing to paint a false version of history. Were there famous female soldiers in WW2? Yes, but so few I can only think of one off the top of my head. She was already given a nod in the game BORDERLANDS 2, with a sniper rifle named after her. Originally the PlayStation and Xbox versions had their own version of the gun referencing different legendary snipers from the war. The male known as, "The White Death", was the name on Xbox. An update changed both console versions to the females name, Lyudmilla, and now that I think about it, they probably did it because of feminist nonsense. But either way, just because a company wants to interpret history in a false way so fat gamer chicks can feel represented, I say who cares? They're just hurting their own sales because nobody is going to buy that shit.

DanteJ600 · 2018-12-17T07:38:01+00:00

guys, EA bad.

Hadashi_blacksky · 2018-12-17T01:13:22+00:00

We got em boys death to EA!

2018-12-17T04:35:56+00:00

EA messing shit up? Sounds normal.

mikesteane · 2018-12-17T02:20:46+00:00

Were there female combatants on the Nazi side?

haterator · 2018-12-17T06:23:11+00:00

the only females that did any fighting in ww2 were in russia.. and BFV exluded russians from the game.. they just did it for SJW brownie points.

TheStumblingWolf · 2018-12-17T08:05:59+00:00

It's like the game had an identity crisis. On one hand it was trying to bring to light obscure WWII operations which is a cool thing, and then you have their replacing every man in these stories with women. I have nothing against games with women in them. Battlefront is essentially the same game set in Star Wars and I have no problem there.

This is the equivalent of a vegan replacing your meals with imitation soy meat and being angry at you for not wanting it. Had they created separate fictional stories with women in them I would've had a lot fewer issues with it.

It's like - be authentic, or be political. Don't try to be both.

Ted8367 · 2018-12-17T03:15:20+00:00

Realism?

'Battlefield' Has Never Been Historically Accurate, That's Why It's Fun

Nothing says “realistic respect and honor” like rocket-jumping a boat over a building and bazooka-ing a jet in midair

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3k4kkw/battlefield-v-historical-accuracy

Toomay · 2018-12-17T05:50:17+00:00

Well, at least the sjws and feminist bought it /s

Cazumarzu · 2018-12-17T05:15:44+00:00

Is this really the unrealistic aspect you're upset about? There's mountains of other stuff.

M_Justice · 2018-12-17T01:21:44+00:00

Yup that says it all

Ultramegasaurus · 2018-12-17T07:41:57+00:00

Go woke, go broke

timeforknowledge · 2018-12-17T10:54:33+00:00

Oh please... If you are generally interested in gaming then you wouldn't give a crap. To say any game is completely historically accurate is bullcrap.

Standard game: Me setting up a spawn beacon and constantly dieing and then respawning in same place while the kids on my team are crying because they didn't get a turn in the tank/plane. Yep that's how it went down in ww2.

I think I speak for allot of bf5 players when I say we would rather play as a transvestite dwarf if it meant all the bugs in the game were fixed. Character gets stuck vaulting obstacles, My ammo and medic crates fall through the floor, tanks get jammed on breakable objects etc etc etc.

Edit, not to mention it's a choice and 99.9% of player characters are men anyway

M_Justice · 2018-12-17T04:01:05+00:00

Games are designed to suspend disbelief to a point. This is just poor marketing to blatantly further gender politics and the market has proven its point. If the game was a success the market would would demonstrate a demand for fake WWII soldiers. There are plenty of opportunities to market fiction; this game’s core audience wasn’t one of them.

JoelMahon · 2018-12-17T05:59:20+00:00

People, don't make this the hill we die on, there are babies getting mutilated, people having their hard earned money stolen, people being falsely imprisoned, etc.

Now, this isn't whataboutism, I'm not saying because there are worse things that we shouldn't care about less worse things, it's because shit like this turns away more people than any possible good it could do, even if this changed the gaming industry...which it won't...if we lost 100 supporters in the process it'd be a bad trade.

If it was a realistic game to begin with, or they marketed it as realistic I'd understand a little opposition, but afaik it isn't either, why is no one mad that female characters in skyrim do the same melee damage as men?

2018-12-17T07:40:27+00:00

I just want to be extremely happy to hear a news one day that Battlefield V costed EA a fortune. And they may never recover from that any sooner

2018-12-17T07:59:44+00:00

But we need role models for little girls. /s

2018-12-17T09:58:35+00:00

Nope! Stalin literally put forth an edict that female snipers were not to go to the front line. It’s all right there in recorded history.

Izaran · 2018-12-17T16:29:43+00:00

I’m in agreement with Jeremy at The Quartering. The market crash is already here. The behavior of AAA publishers reached peak with this “woke” shit like BFV. It’s right there in EA’s disregard for its own investors. As soon as you start putting ideology before bottom line...goodbye.

croidhubh · 2018-12-17T19:57:48+00:00

They disrespected and shat on the men who actually did the things they fictionalized. The mother-daughter team that took out a water depot without firing a shot? IRL it was a super elite squad who went in after another squad was completely killed...all men.

There was a woman who's husband was murdered by the Germans. She sold EVERYTHING AND BOUGHT A FUC*ING TANK(!!!!!!!!) for the Russians and demanded she be the pilot...and they let her!

If they want to focus on the "untold stories of WWII", there were better ways to do it. The disrespect for their political agenda is well documented and people haven't been letting them get away with it.

The lead developer didn't want to tell his daughter she couldn't play someone who's like her in the game and he didn't want to tell her "Because (she's) a girl"? That's EXACTLY WHY and you explain to her the fuc*ing HISTORY!!!!!!!

jp_mra · 2018-12-17T21:23:13+00:00

But she will still only be shooting men.

throwaway46819 · 2018-12-18T09:43:14+00:00

I, and basically the rest of gamers, don't mind women in games. A lot of games I love feature women, and hell, I tend to play more or less half women, half men in games where I can customize the character, because why the fuck not.

What I don't like is when game companies try to go for "historical accuracy", where they introduce all kinds of races and people that were never in there, just for the sake of being politically correct. And of course, the usual "I'm a woman, I'm way better than stupid men" thing. Odd how they only want to fight some gender stereotypes.

The "If you're a white male crybaby, don't buy this" tweet was even worse. That proves that the developers are being actively sexist and racist, if it wasn't clear enough already.

Had this game been released 15 years ago, I don't think I would have really have minded this. It'd have been like Assassin's Creed Origins including white and asian people as part of the Egyptian culture. Would it have been weird and out of place? Sure, but it wouldn't necessarily have been offensive either. In this case though, because of all the SJW shit going on now, it's just a clearly anti-white, anti-male message, which the developers themselves have confirmed.

Fuck EA.

2018-12-18T13:43:42+00:00

Britain sometimes ran out of men and female factory workers had to fight in rare cases. The woman in the campaign of BFV is a partisan fighter which explains her disability that’d usually get her discharged

2018-12-18T13:46:00+00:00

The only real historical inaccuracy is that there’s a mission where you blow up a heavy water plant days before the Telemark raid and you’re somehow supposed to believe the protagionist paved the way for the raid

oneronaut · 2019-02-03T02:23:48+00:00

GOOD JOB GUYS! :D

They didn't listen to us because they were convinced by a minority of loud idiots they were making the right move.

Worked out perfectly as far as I'm concerned. I did work for EA in the 2000s, they were horrendous to deal with.

M_Justice · 2018-12-17T04:36:03+00:00

Yup. 500K plus in downvotes and $10 billion dollars of the pathetic market.

FusionTap · 2018-12-17T05:15:57+00:00

The game is a lot of fun though so that’s good

Krymix · 2018-12-17T07:08:03+00:00

Every time I see something about someone being upset that they put female soldiers in a game clearly not meant to be perfectly historically accurate I just have to ask : why? It doesn't hurt anyone, get over it. There are way bigger and real issues.
If you just hate women, fine. You be you. But to be upset that they put in the possibility to play a female character in a fictional game in order to open the game up to slightly more people is silly.

2018-12-17T06:56:28+00:00

Isn’t this to be expected of a dinosaur corporation? All institutions seem to sway to the side of the establishment the larger they get.

ecish · 2018-12-17T03:48:31+00:00

I can’t believe it’s such a big deal for either side of the argument. It’s not like it’s a realistic game in the slightest. Using the setting of WWII doesn’t make it non-fiction

2018-12-18T06:06:42+00:00

I fail to see how this is a men's rights issue, and not your attempt to get validation about a video game you dislike (for insane reasons).

Post this shit in r/battlefield, and leave r/mensrights for real issues.

David_The_Atheist · 2018-12-17T07:03:49+00:00

Eh, sucks for them.

This is just whining though. Move on.

Title	Electronic Arts Eliminates Billions of Dollars of Shareholder Value to Promote Gender Friendly Fictional Female Soldiers Who Fight in WWII
Author	M_Justice
Upvotes	352
Comments	135
Date	December 17, 2018 1:08 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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