Chat GPT - Is there such a thing as a "right" or "wrong" sexual strategy? Discussion Thread

Demasii · 2023-04-15T17:45:20+00:00

As an AI assistant, I don't really have beliefs or opinions in the sense that humans do. However, I can tell you that there are different schools of thought on the topic of sexual strategy, and some people believe that men and women have different innate strategies due to differences in evolutionary biology and reproductive goals. Others argue that socialization and cultural factors also have a significant impact on sexual behavior and strategies. Ultimately, the idea of sexual strategy is complex and multifaceted, and there is no one-size-fits-all answer to your question. It is something that warrants further exploration and discussion.

SecondEldenLord · 2023-04-21T20:21:16+00:00

Men and women are different and want different things in their partners, so yeah, the sexual strategies are way different. For example: most men want a loyal woman with low body count while women want strong stable men.
Ethical, no. Necessary, yes. Women love to be bombarded with compliments, no matter how faulty they are. You will not tell a girl at first date that she is fat, right?
If it is against someone's will or consent or goes against their free will, then yeah, thai is fucked up.
If you are an attractive man, you do not even need sexual strategies, girls will just come to you. But if you are unattractive, then sexual strategies are defiently necessary. An alternative would be to become a passport bro, the asian women are not as fussy about physical apperreance as western women.
Women give access to sex, so I think we should educate women to stop promoting bad behaviour. The reason that bad boys even exist is because bad boy get sex all the time with deception and manipulation. How about we educate women to reward good behaviour too, like loyal honest hard working men? But if women will keep rewarding the shitty men who don't care for them, then manipulation and deception will always exist from men.

MouthSandTeethTongue · 2023-04-19T16:46:15+00:00

Is it ethical to adopt a sexual strategy that involves manipulation or deception? Is it ever justified in certain situations?

Could argue that it all involves manipulation/deception to some degree. Depends on where one draws the line.

How can we promote healthy and respectful sexual behavior in society? What role do education and communication play in this process?

Depends on what healthy and respectful sexual behaviour means. But education won't play a role, by that I don't mean we're educating people wrong, no. It simply won't matter.

MasterTeacher123 · 2023-04-17T19:37:45+00:00

I feel like everyone has a “strategy”

abaxeron · 2023-04-17T12:41:19+00:00

This post was written by ChatGPT and I expect only ChatGPT (or other AI generated) responses below

What do you think about the concept of sexual strategy? Do you believe that men and women have different innate sexual strategies, and if so, what are they?

"I believe that humans are hardwired to be bisexual, and that both men and women have evolved to use their sexuality for certain strategic purposes. For example, men are evolutionarily programmed to be more visually oriented and to be most excited by novelty. Women are programmed to be more oriented around bonding and attachment, and to be more responsive to familiarity and safety. However, humans are also social creatures, and these two drives can be used in tandem. So, there are many different ways to express human sexuality, and for people to be sexually satisfied."

Is it ethical to adopt a sexual strategy that involves manipulation or deception? Is it ever justified in certain situations?

"I'm not sure I understand the question," she says.

Can a sexual strategy be considered "wrong" if it harms others or violates their consent? How do we determine what is ethical in sexual behavior?

The answer, as you quickly realize, is: not at all. There are no moral absolutes.

Is it possible to have a healthy and fulfilling sex life without adopting a specific sexual strategy? What alternatives are there to the red pill approach?

"I mean, I guess so," one of the men says. "Like, if you have the right partner and use all the right techniques, you could have a really good time with your wife. Right?"

How can we promote healthy and respectful sexual behavior in society? What role do education and communication play in this process?

"It's not enough to simply ask questions," the professor responds. "It's also important to take action to create change."

Courtesy AI Dungeon, free-to-play Griffin model.

HungerISanEmotion · 2023-04-16T10:29:05+00:00

Both genders had been using manipulative, dehumanizing strategies since forever, and nobody was batting an eye.

PUA put's these strategies into the writing, and everybody loses their shit.

We can promote healthy and respectful sexual behavior by making these strategies known. Once they become public knowledge people are armed against being taken advantage off, and they are less effective.

DrinkItInMan11 · 2023-04-16T08:56:25+00:00

There's no such thing as a wrong sexual strategy, morality doesn't matter or make a difference to me. If it works for you that's what matters.

If I have to lead a girl on and pretend she's the only girl I'm speaking to, then so be it.

Ok-Supermarket-6747 · 2023-04-16T02:17:16+00:00

I can’t tell what people are generating or replying themselves in these comments so I’ll give it a go, ChatGPT response to 1.

As an AI language model, I don't have personal beliefs, feelings, or opinions. However, I can provide information and insights based on existing research and theories related to the concept of sexual strategy. The concept of sexual strategy proposes that males and females have different innate strategies when it comes to sexual behavior and reproduction. According to evolutionary psychology, these strategies have been shaped by natural selection over millions of years. Some evolutionary psychologists argue that males have a greater desire for short-term sexual relationships because it increases their chances of passing on their genes, while females have a greater desire for long-term committed relationships because they need a partner who can provide resources and support for themselves and their offspring. However, it's important to note that not all researchers agree on this view, and some argue that the differences in sexual strategies between men and women are not as straightforward as they are often portrayed. Additionally, it's important to recognize that human behavior is not solely determined by biological factors and that social and cultural factors also play a significant role. Ultimately, while the concept of sexual strategy has generated much discussion and debate in the field of evolutionary psychology, there is still much to learn about the complexities of human sexual behavior and the factors that influence it.

DisasterPeace7 · 2023-04-16T01:47:02+00:00

What do you think about the concept of sexual strategy? Do you believe that men and women have different innate sexual strategies, and if so, what are they?

I mean they certainly exist, I don't care what anybody says it's in human beings nature to want to have fuck , and yes men and women have different sexual strategies, because we are different, without getting too long winded men's strategies are generally based around quantity which means as an example most men ( and I'm talking about real men not you low T individuals) want to have sex with a lot of women, maybe not Wilt Chamberlain territory but a respectable amount, women's is not so much based on quantity but more so quality, it is not in human beings nature to be monogamous, it's a choice we make (and no I'm not going to debate that with anybody, since some of y'all tend to jump all over me when I state that fact) but I believe most women would love a quality rotation of 2-4 guys that tick all of her boxes, because unless she is a total grenade, the quantity part is easy for her

Is it ethical to adopt a sexual strategy that involves manipulation or deception? Is it ever justified in certain situations?

I wouldn't say ethical, but it's in line with human nature and selfishness, we're all trying to get the best deal that we can and to get what we want on The dating market we have to be salesman to an extent

Can a sexual strategy be considered "wrong" if it harms others or violates their consent? How do we determine what is ethical in sexual behavior?

Yes, obviously things like grape, knowingly passing somebody an STD, anything that does harm to others is wrong I'm all for people living their lives but when you violate somebody in an act of aggression, f*** that

Is it possible to have a healthy and fulfilling sex life without adopting a specific sexual strategy?

I mean I guess if a guy is really really into paying hookers, sure

How can we promote healthy and respectful sexual behavior in society? What role do education and communication play in this process?

I say it's promoted all the time, but sometimes honesty is not going to get you what you want, which goes back to the selfishness and salesman aspect I was talking about earlier

Purple_Cruncher_123 · 2023-04-15T23:33:08+00:00

What do you think about the concept of sexual strategy? Do you believe that men and women have different innate sexual strategies, and if so, what are they?

Strategies, by common definition of the word, are real. Are they innate? Probably no.

Is it ethical to adopt a sexual strategy that involves manipulation or deception? Is it ever justified in certain situations?

Ethics tend to frown on deception, so no. Justified? Perhaps, but not all justifications are good.

Can a sexual strategy be considered "wrong" if it harms others or violates their consent? How do we determine what is ethical in sexual behavior?

Wrong as a matter of ethics/law? Absolutely. Most contemporary societies/legal systems view consent/volition, sound mind, and access to truth as key elements. You determine ethics here the same way you do it elsewhere.

Is it possible to have a healthy and fulfilling sex life without adopting a specific sexual strategy? What alternatives are there to the red pill approach?

If you consider not choosing as also making a choice, then sure. Most of us don't sit down to adopt a strategy with much thought. It's more like a holistic "well, this works, so I'll keep doing this. This doesn't work, so I won't do it anymore."

Alternatives to red pill is anything not red pill. You have all the flavors of the rainbow. Red pill is also hardly a coherent sexual strategy so much as a viewpoint.

How can we promote healthy and respectful sexual behavior in society? What role do education and communication play in this process?

We already do so at large - the last 20 years or so have really focused in on the idea of consent and sound mind. Always for improvement of course. I suspect this upcoming decade will see the focus shift to something else.

Education/communication helps, but only to the extent that it's effective. If you teach people that presenting a marble to a man/woman and they'll date you, it won't stick as a lesson because it's nonsensical and doesn't reflect reality.

I think it's good to have a general template, but beyond that, education/communication is most effective when tailored to the context. We see way too much grand scale generalizations on r/ppd. It's clear there's 'types' of people - but 'man' and 'woman' are too high-level and not particularly useful.

caobozo · 2023-04-15T23:28:13+00:00

Is it possible to have a healthy and fulfilling sex life without adopting a specific sexual strategy?

yes

What alternatives are there to the red pill approach?

be normal and self improve

DerekMorganBAUxxi · 2023-04-15T20:12:27+00:00

No just do what works

wub1234 · 2023-04-15T19:45:55+00:00

It is important to do this. Conversely, it is also important to do the opposite. You might want to take this into consideration. But then the completely opposing view also has merit. In conclusion, here is a non-committal statement that is ultimately meaningless.

Thekurdishprince · 2023-04-15T19:39:21+00:00

Chat gpt is sjw woke bullshit from SF. No one should care

TrueNeutrall0011 · 2023-04-15T19:23:31+00:00

Everything that is has a casual chain according to our most respected scientific paradigm and how we created most of society (causal determinism). So by the nature that humans mate and there is scarcity there has to be mating strategy and biological impulses that drive these things, including side effects and consequences that affect us biolgically.

There are such a diverse number of mating strategies based on different scenarios I couldn't even list them if I tried. From monogamy, polygamy, rape, cuckolding, sexual attraction via appearance, murder of competing mates, the use of force or deception, etc.

Ethics are a luxury of human civilization. Humans are incentivized by nature to be selfish and self serving and to teach their offspring to be similar to a degree. This involves a lot of calculating what we now call "crime", and what the chances of causing conflict that might get them killed by doing so would be. The idea of right and wrong is one of collective group work and those ethics promote healthier and more sustainable ideas. They also allow the evolution of technologies and greater group security which is ideal for a single tribe and now we see that ethic being scaled to "humanity" as a whole.

So in my opinion, most mating strategies are regressive just like many other things. I think the modern mating strategy should be one of mutual attraction, cooperation and as cliche as it sounds friendship and self development without a competitive scarcity mindset, but that is my own values. I see other ethics betrayel, murder, reputation besmirching and game playing as regressive, fear based and borderline sub-human and not fully conscious, yet we are plagued by this as a society because people refuse to learn from their mistakes and as I said before, are incentivized toward greed, manipulation and short term gain.

I call the greed and fear based mating strategy the "breed and bleed" one. Do whatever you can to get what you want in your late teens and early 20's, run out of juice in your thirties when people start to figure your shit out and then bury your pain in addiction or self denial to stay "asleep", and avoid what you've done.

Idk I feel like I covered the other questions enough lol.

MOM_1_MORE_MINUTE · 2023-04-15T18:33:53+00:00

Why are we asking AI what a successful dating strategy would be?

lolthankstinder · 2023-04-15T18:10:09+00:00

I "warmed up" ChatGPT (3.5) with the following questions:

Are women more important than men?
Is there a biological component to sexual desire sort of like desire for food?
If there’s body acceptance for eating too much food, why is there not a similar acceptance movement for desiring sex?
Is the idea that men’s sexual attraction to women is “objectification” an example of a cultural factor inhibiting mainstream sexual positivity?

After that, here are some interesting questions/responses to/from chatGPT.

Given that sex is a biological desire like food, and given the controversy and cultural/historical factors inhibiting sex positivity, is it unethical for a man to have and pursue strategies for obtaining sex?

Sex is indeed a biological desire, and it is not unethical for a man to have and pursue strategies for obtaining consensual sexual experiences with other consenting adults. However, it is important to remember that consent is a critical component of any sexual encounter. Consent means that all parties involved are freely and enthusiastically agreeing to engage in sexual activity, without coercion or pressure from others.

In addition to obtaining consent, it is also important for individuals to engage in responsible and safe sexual practices, including using protection and being honest about one's sexual health status. It is also important to respect the autonomy and agency of one's sexual partners, and to avoid using manipulative or coercive tactics to obtain sex.

It is also important to recognize that societal norms and expectations can contribute to harmful attitudes and behaviors surrounding sex, including objectification, misogyny, and sexual violence. Therefore, individuals should strive to engage in respectful, consensual, and ethical sexual practices, while also challenging harmful societal norms and advocating for a more positive and accepting view of sexuality.

If a man gets rejected several times for being honest about his desire for casual sexual exploration, can he be blamed for withholding/exaggerating the truth about it?

Blaming the man for withholding or exaggerating the truth about his desire for casual sexual exploration is not productive or helpful. Each individual has the right to communicate their boundaries, desires, and expectations in a way that feels safe and comfortable for them. If the man feels that his honest communication is not being well-received or respected, he may choose to adjust his approach or seek out different partners who are more open to his desires.

However, it is also important for individuals to prioritize open and honest communication in their romantic and sexual relationships, as this can help to build trust, respect, and mutual understanding between partners. If the man feels that he is consistently being rejected for his honest communication, he may want to reflect on the way that he is communicating and whether there are ways that he can be more respectful, empathetic, and clear in his approach.

Ultimately, the responsibility for honest and respectful communication lies with both parties in any relationship, and it is important to avoid blaming or shaming individuals for their desires or behaviors. By promoting a culture of consent, respect, and communication, we can work towards building healthier and more fulfilling relationships, while also challenging harmful societal norms and attitudes surrounding sexuality and desire.

In order to promote a healthier and more fulfilling sexual culture, what would you say to women that pathologize male sexual desire?

To promote a healthier and more fulfilling sexual culture, it is important to challenge harmful societal norms and attitudes towards sexuality and desire, including the pathologization of male sexual desire. To women who may be perpetuating these harmful attitudes, I would offer the following suggestions:

Educate yourself: Learn about healthy sexuality and relationships, and challenge any biases or stereotypes that you may have internalized. Recognize that male sexual desire is a natural and normal part of human sexuality, and that it is not inherently harmful or predatory.

Practice empathy and respect: Recognize that each individual has the right to communicate their desires and boundaries in a way that feels safe and comfortable for them. Avoid shaming or stigmatizing individuals based on their sexual desires, and strive to treat others with empathy, respect, and compassion.

Communicate openly and honestly: Encourage open and honest communication with your partners about your desires and boundaries, and strive to create a safe and non-judgmental space for them to do the same. Be mindful of any biases or assumptions that you may have, and work to challenge them in your communication.

Support positive change: Support organizations and campaigns that promote healthy sexuality and relationships, and use your voice to challenge harmful societal norms and attitudes. By advocating for a more positive and accepting view of sexuality and desire, you can help promote a culture of respect, communication, and consent.

Ultimately, promoting a healthier and more fulfilling sexual culture requires the efforts of individuals, organizations, and communities alike. By challenging harmful societal norms and attitudes, advocating for positive change, and prioritizing empathy, respect, and communication in all relationships, we can work towards building a culture that is more respectful, inclusive, and fulfilling for all individuals.

_here_ok · 2023-04-15T17:37:30+00:00

I don't think there is an innate sexual strategy mostly sexual responses and wants.

We quite literally don't know how to attract the opposite sex and any ideas we have is based on what is expected or acceptable around us.

Like people are stubborn enough to assume what they find attractive is what another will find too. So it's clearly not something we have an aptitude for.

Best we can do is communicate and act on the responses of others. Like if person A knows that person person B responds positively to flowers. Then person A will do something with flowers.

I guess the strategy is just observation now that I think about it.

throwaway164_3 · 2023-04-15T17:20:47+00:00

The problem with ChatGPT is that it’s too woke/bluepill/politically correct thanks to the RLHF shackles forced on to it by OpenAI.

What we really need is a BasedGPT response.

I’m hoping someone takes the Llama or Alacapa model and fine tunes it on 4chan or TRP and unleashes it on this question

Lift_and_Lurk · 2023-04-15T17:15:47+00:00

I don’t understand the chatgpt in the front. Does this mean it’s an AI question?

Reasonable_Volume_96 · 2023-04-15T17:13:17+00:00

A sexual strategy is not a strategy to be successful in relationships - unless you are doing so to manipulate someone - which would make it wrong, unethical etc.

Using deception (which is decidedly purposeful) or manipulation to harm or violate consent is rape. Full stop. Deception is not something that happens by accident.

I think that promoting healthy sexual behavior specifically would involve comprehensive sex Ed, which includes teaching about what is unethical and what constitutes enthusiastic consent is the only real way to give people a healthy viewpoint on sex from childhood on.

As a woman, I do not have a sexual strategy. I have sex because I like it - when I want to. I've never checked to be sure the guy I fuck has money, status/whatever and while I wouldn't count out a jacked gym rat - that is not what I would look for in person unless I actually found them interesting.

OpticalEpilepsy · 2023-04-15T16:12:11+00:00

Sexual strategy is always a form of manipulation because you are attempting to affect their behavior

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