Men have a significantly higher level of sexuality and staying otherwise is not only a lie but also potentially harmful

blueshinx · 2023-05-19T20:05:13+00:00

The issue is that these conversations always derail into extremes. Historically you’ve had society supressing female sexuality, quite literally sending women to psych wards for “female hysteria” and on the other hand you now have people claiming that the sex drive of men and women is exactly the same, despite the biological differences between the sexes.

Loud_Definition6669 · 2023-05-19T19:15:19+00:00

A lot of the metrics you're using are impossible to measure and we'd have to rely on self-reported data which is notoriously shitty.

sexual thoughts - Women during the NRE phase and while infatuated can probably be as preoccupied with these thoughts as men. Outside of this, this is generally correct

sexual desire in casual sex - Obviously true

sexual desire in relationships - See above, with regards to sexual thoughts

masturbation - Difficult to measure. Most women masturbate without porn. Women also tend to "marathon masturbate" in a way men do not. Probably largely true, but not as true as self-reported data might indicate.

initiating sex - Obviously true

talking about sex - Probably false. Women talk about sex all the time.

enjoying sex - I think women have the capacity to enjoy sex under the right circumstances that supersedes men. The female orgasm is physiologically more intense and women don't have the same sort of refractory period.

golfer_dave · 2023-05-19T20:33:04+00:00

I think a better distinction is that women can get just as horny as men, but on average, men get horny easier and more often, assuming he's not insanely low testosterone.

Anyone who's ever pinned test can tell you it's crazy hormone.

Safinated · 2023-05-19T19:20:19+00:00

Why does everyone take people who say otherwise seriously, when reality is very clear? I don’t try and convince schizophrenics that the CIA isn’t trying to kill them, so why argue with other delusionals ?

10throwawayantsy · 2023-05-20T06:54:43+00:00

"And harass women."

Your assumption is fundamentally wrong. Men don't harass women because they're horny, they harass them because they hate us lol. Sexually abusive behavior isn't the same thing as sexual desire.

For example, not all child rapists are actually pedophiles. A lot of them are just angry. Also, look at prison rape/harassment. Most of those men are not gay

No_Yogurt_4602 · 2023-05-19T19:33:59+00:00

If men think that women have the same drive and desires as them, they'd start looking for random hookups and harass women

I mean yeah, solid point, thank God that's not already a thing. Like could you even imagine?

DerayRevan · 2023-05-19T19:17:29+00:00

How exactly is it harmful to say most men are hornier/interested in sex than most women ?

I mean that's literally how we survived as a species

Female sex work like prostitution,pornography,strippers is at a greater demand than vice-versa

ThorLives · 2023-05-19T21:01:17+00:00

I don't know what's up with society but apparently it's not acceptable for women to be any different from men. Even when it comes to the most obvious differences like sex drive. What comes next? Height? Body mass?

I once heard a quote that utopian ideologies often assume "blank slate" theories of human behavior. The idea that blank slatism is true allows them to imagine all kinds of better futures. Blank-slatism allows for the possibility of unlimited changes to society.

If humans are not blank-slates, then it imposes some limitations on what society can become, and it can potentially derail any attempts to create utopias. Currently, that ideology is feminism. That's the reason that "blank slatism" is believed in the Western world.

Communism also believed in "blank slatism". And it's the reason the false theory of evolution called "Lamarcism" became popular and promoted in communist Russia. https://www.britannica.com/science/Lamarckism

What comes next? Height? Body mass?

Funny, I once saw a video where a girl said that she thought that women were just as strong as men, it's just that women weren't taught to lift weights. It was crazy. But some people actually convince themselves that all gender difference are socially constructed.

Think_Brilliant3517 · 2023-05-20T08:55:21+00:00

Exactly. Men outnumber women a whopping 5:1 on casual hookup sites and are disproportionally more likely to seek out sex workers than women are.

kalashhhhhhhh · 2023-05-20T11:23:37+00:00

I firmly believe that a woman who is crazy about her man experiences the same/ at least comoarable levels of horniness as a man.

I don't feel horny for the sake of being horny, I'm literally horny for only one person, but I think about boning him a lot throughout the day.

Think_Brilliant3517 · 2023-05-20T15:57:21+00:00

I don't think many would disagree in that men are hornballs compared to women.

daddysgotanew · 2023-05-20T18:19:40+00:00

Women do have the same drive, in many cases even more so than most men. It’s only for a very small percentage of men though. 95 percent of men are invisible to women. The other 5 percent they go absolutely nuts for, to the point where they’ll do creepier shit than men ever would.

lacuti3 · 2023-05-19T20:39:26+00:00

Girls are practically asexual compared to men. They don’t really have sexual feelings or sexual needs. They never really think about sex, it’s easier not to. There’s no nerve endings in the vagina so piv doesn’t feel like anything. They need oral and most guys don’t like doing it or are bad at it.

Asatmaya · 2023-05-19T20:03:29+00:00

My Dad told me when I was 14, "Girls want it just as bad as guys, they are just better at hiding it," and I flunked out of high school because I was having sex all the time.

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Mrs_Drgree · 2023-05-19T18:44:13+00:00

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WilliamWyattD · 2023-05-20T09:25:32+00:00

The genders have some fundamental differences in their approach to sex, so it isn't an apples to oranges comparison. Thus I can understand why some people object to the oversimplified statement that men are definitively 'more sexual' or have a 'higher libido' or whatever.

That said, without trying to sum up the comparison in one sentence, I think we have a pretty good idea of how the typical sexuality of each gender works. So it's probably more productive to focus on that, without saying one gender is more or less sexual.

2023-05-20T11:21:49+00:00

I was having this conversation the other day with my husband. Responsive sex drive is inherently different than spontaneous sex drive, and most men have high sex drives, whereas a large number of women have responsive sex drives. I decided that the spectrum of libido therefore goes like this, in descending order from “high” to “low”

high spontaneous sex drives (people who often find themselves feeling horny for no particular reason)
low spontaneous sex drives (people who infrequently find themselves feeling horny for no particular reason)
highly responsive sex drives (people without spontaneous sex drive, but who often feel horny in response to a stimulus or their partner “getting them in the mood”)
minimally responsive sex drives (people without spontaneous sex drive, but who infrequently feel horny in response to a stimulus or their partner “getting them in the mood”)
asexuality (never wanting sex)

Ohms2North · 2023-05-21T03:58:17+00:00

Spontaneous vs responsive desire

Den_the_God-King · 2023-05-21T10:03:57+00:00

My sexual impulses have repeatedly led to the destruction of friendships, job losses, threats to my own freedom, deterioration of my health, and significant financial depletion. And that’s just in one week, imagine in one year!

zzpop10 · 2023-05-21T16:09:16+00:00

what evidence do you have for these claims? More importantly, in what way does making assumptions about people’s sexualities based on their gender actually help you navigate the world, interact with people, get laid, or find relationships?

In my experience of the world I have found people’s sexualities are so varied that it’s never helpful to make assumptions based on their gender or outward presentation, if you want to get to know someone you just have to get to know them. I also have not in any way found it to be the case that women in general have a lower interest in sex than men in general.

Perhaps you just don’t know many women who are comfortable openly talking about sex in front of you.

Illustrious-Clock926 · 2023-05-30T19:10:07+00:00

men aren’t more horny than women we just express it differently.

Title	Men have a significantly higher level of sexuality and staying otherwise is not only a lie but also potentially harmful
Author	Think_Brilliant3517
Upvotes	11
Comments	118
Date	May 19, 2023 6:19 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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