I posted to r/mensrights in the past, therefore I’m unreliable

Former-Dragonfly2226 · 2024-01-16T09:23:27+00:00

I experienced similar in a fb parenting group. I dared to state that research has shown shared parenting gives children better life outcomes…and was bombarded with angry women commenting and reporting my comment.

RustyCohleon · 2024-01-16T09:17:44+00:00

Experienced this too in a gaming sub only last week. Society has created labels and dogwhistles for the braindead zombies to follow.

SnooBeans6591 · 2024-01-16T09:44:31+00:00

The mods will tell you to delete the sub name (otherwise post gets deleted).

You should copy the comments in your post (Rule 4) without the name.

To your point: yeah, people are stupid, and in a gynocentric society, caring about men's issues makes you look like a monster.

Sir_Spectacular · 2024-01-16T10:45:22+00:00

Stalked your history and found the post you made. First of all, I'm sorry for the shitty situation you're in, and agree with some of the posters. That definitely sounds like some sort of NPD thing. If that's the case, your relationship may be doomed. Personality disorders are difficult, nearly impossible to treat, because people with those disorders rarely believe there's anything wrong with them and that they don't need to change. Usually, it's only once the person's life completely implodes, they've run out of bridges to burn, and there's nobody left to blame, that they finally manage to realize that they were the problem all along. That's... probably not going to happen anytime soon.

I'll also warn you that, if you try to leave, your wife is going to show you a whole new level of crazy that you've never seen before. Like... take precautions, get your papers in order, give them to a friend to protect, and don't assume anything. It's going to be one hell of a messy divorce.

Now, onto that crazy bitch's reaction comment. Wow.

For the record, your post doesn't read as offensive to me in the least, nor does it seem made up, or like it was made in bad faith. From the way you wrote it, I'd say your writing tone painted your wife in as charitable a light as can be, far gentler than I would have done in your situation. There's no way anyone rational could read it, and reasonably conclude you wrote that post because you're a politically motivated misogynist who is conspiring to paint women as a whole in a bad light.

It's exactly as you say. She saw you once made a post on MensRights, and she immediately decided that you were worse than Hitler. There's zero thought or nuance to her opinion. She just hates men, or MRAs that much. That's like... full on extremism-level hate right there, just as bad, if not worse, than the actual incels she's comparing you to.

Luckily, it looks like there's only the one crazy bitch. It seems humanity isn't doomed. Everyone else who posted seemed to be taking your story seriously, and offering compassionate advice to the best of their abilities. Given how respectful and helpful everyone else is being, it's frankly a little suspicious that the comments of a single PMSing crankypants got so many upvotes, and your replies to her got so many downvotes. Like, nobody else seems to be agreeing with the crazy bitch or sharing her sentiments in their own comments. I almost wonder if she's got bots or a bunch of sock puppet accounts to spam upvote or downvote, to amplify her opinion artificially.

kaisear · 2024-01-16T10:54:49+00:00

Don't take dating or marriage advice from Reddit. Those people are likely more clueless than you.

Ok-Yogurtcloset7394 · 2024-01-16T09:44:16+00:00

honestly, individuelles make mistakes and are stupid 🤷

you know as well as me that neither is this sub an Incel group nor is it evil. It's sad to see how much male Problems are being neglacted because of the victims being male.

Just diatance yourself from this negative and uneducated biased people.

Quiet-Worldliness709 · 2024-01-16T10:22:59+00:00

I just turn off my active subs. Id suggest everyone here do so as well. Everything is considered “incel” these days. It’s ridiculous. Sorry about your troubles though OP.

IceCorrect · 2024-01-16T11:17:34+00:00

So today you can be incel while married. Another day another changing words

DMFan79 · 2024-01-16T10:07:03+00:00

They're no different from the people who say: "all men/women are the same".

Neat-Fish-4593 · 2024-01-16T13:34:38+00:00

If those idiots could put two and two together, maybe they would see that the abuse your wife is putting you through is making you interested in men’s rights. That’s exactly why I’m here, your marriage post sounds familiar to some of my own experiences with abusive women. For them to call people like us incels proves that the word “incel” has lost all of its meaning and is just an insult hurled at men they disagree with.

Apparently it’s misogyny to advocate for men who are being abused by their wife / girlfriend. I was even told once that it’s more serious when a man abuses a woman because he is more likely to hurt her. But to me that just sounds like erasure of short skinny men and of stronger women. I was almost strangled to death by my ex, this shit escalates and is absolutely serious no matter who the abuser is.

I got called out for my post history once on an alt account. I posted a question to the ask feminists subreddit and had a couple people trying to say my question wasn’t worth answering because I posted here. To be fair to the feminists though, I also got a ton of well thought out answers to my question.

BigBadBootyDaddy10 · 2024-01-16T12:40:31+00:00

I got kicked out of so many subs (or can’t comment) that I lost track. Strictly due to my comments here.

Actually, I do remember one that surprised me, r/facepalm

zoxzoxzo · 2024-01-16T12:50:41+00:00

“You posted to r/mensrights which IS an incel forum, therefore you are a mysoginist and probably lying. You refuse to apologize for your participation in an OBJECTIVELY evil sub, so you are evading the REAL issue here."

Just make a throwaway account and ask whatever you wanted to ask. A person who replied to you with this comment clearly hates men and goes by with "all men are trash". It is pointless to try and have a constructive argument with them as they only listen to whatever can be heard in their loud feminist echo chambers. It's unfortunate that majority of reddit is poisoned with people like these but it is what it is.

YouCouldBeBetter · 2024-01-16T17:00:51+00:00

Bro, next time ask them where men should discuss their rights being abused and how to organise and inform? Clearly misandrists who think men don't deserve rights or should accept them being trampled on. If being for men's rights is for incels, what does that make feminists?

asianfoodtofulover · 2024-01-16T17:03:31+00:00

Im a woman and i post to this sub. I wonder what they’d say to that.

Delicious-Agency-824 · 2024-01-16T17:48:53+00:00

Here is a good marriage advice.

Don't get married.

TheMastermind729 · 2024-01-16T09:57:21+00:00

I have to tell myself that it’s only people on the internet that are like that or I’d lose my mind

No_Competition7327 · 2024-01-16T11:59:51+00:00

I see only one person who's against you , Rest just reading "incel" then downvoting you and upvoting that person. Honestly just block that person , Since they think just cause you posted here your problems aren't problems. Not to mention denying another woman who's speaking for you , It seems you have alot already going in your life and dealing with another feminazi on reddit should be the least of your worries rn.

2024-01-16T12:50:20+00:00

I couldn’t care less what people think or say. We live in a freak show society that wants to destroy us. Who gives a fuck what these retards think.

theoutbacklp · 2024-01-16T13:47:57+00:00

It’s unfortunate that you had to go through this. Some people on reddit can be very narrow-minded and insensitive.

stunspot · 2024-01-16T13:52:20+00:00

This is the year they come after perceived "incels". If you aren't blue pill, you're getting canceled.

Extension-Moose-4662 · 2024-01-16T12:40:20+00:00

This is cancel culture. You violated the groupthink and therefore you are an un person to them. It wouldn’t matter if you cured cancer tomorrow, you are unworthy of recognition.

The idea that people can have and express different ideas and hold unpopular opinions and still be accepted as a human being is a dead concept. Liberals have instigated this behavior in the last 15 - 20 years. They want to destroy families so they tell their adherents that if your parents are conservative they have to be excised from your life. It’s despicable. Your situation is another branch of the same tree.

flipsidetroll · 2024-01-16T10:56:07+00:00

Here’s your reply to them…. “First, please explain, with proof, not opinion, what makes it an objectively evil sub? Objective removes all emotion from the definition, so please answer accordingly, re your description.

Second, anyone who judges someone by snooping their profile on one platform, is juvenile at best, and objectively unintelligent at worst. For anyone to get a balanced opinion about the world, one should follow a variety of subs to view different perspectives about issues, including ones that actively go against what they believe. And anyone believing they can dictate what anyone follows is a delusional control freak.

I look forward to to your definition. Failure to send it, and prove your statement, implies you are trying to influence followers based on your phobic beliefs, which is against Reddit policy, I believe. I will base my next step on your reply”.

ColdasIcicless · 2024-01-16T14:07:48+00:00

I've always thought the reddit detectives were weird.

I saw someone getting dogpilled about their past posts, so i go take a look and they were so far down, maybe one or two posts of them saying something shitty and it's like...who has time for this? To just search someone's history for 20 minutes, it's weird.

THEAdrian · 2024-01-16T14:37:24+00:00

Looking through someone's post history to dig up dirt or try and glean "what kind of person they are" is the most low-rent, bottom of the barrel, pathetic behavior. I do not understand how anyone who does this can look themselves in the mirror and and honestly say "I am a decent human being with integrity". Like, who even has the time to do that? Literally anything else would be a better use of your time.

63daddy · 2024-01-16T15:00:01+00:00

If a sub opposes equal rights for men, I want nothing to do with it anyways. If a sub is that misandrist, no facts are going to change their minds, so best to simply not waste time on them.

skcuf2 · 2024-01-16T17:43:32+00:00

Reddit is full of leftists. Leftists hate men. If you want to use reddit for advice around anything real then you can't post anywhere that is against the current leftist narrative. I mean, unless you don't care about getting stupid crap like you just got.

Create another account for asking questions in other places.

TheRabid · 2024-01-16T14:02:23+00:00

People are going to hate you for things. It’s the way that it is. We are all defective like that.

pyr0phelia · 2024-01-16T14:36:03+00:00

Society has declared men disposable and if you complain you are dealt with. Nothing new.

superjetale · 2024-01-16T15:30:22+00:00

F*n censorship. Do we have a website, just in case we loose this forum? Like the rpillers had. We lost that subreddit, but they still have that website to share ideas

Neko404 · 2024-01-16T16:41:04+00:00

It is lazy to just white wash an enitre group of people like that. Not to say we don't have some bad apples, we absolutely do. Any group of people will have bad faith actors. Feminism is certainly full of them to. Of course they are quick to say #notallfeminist. Ok true but yet.... they won't hold the same opinion for other groups.

Scarce12 · 2024-01-16T20:20:02+00:00

Huh? You are married and they infer you are an incel?

What does that say about the state of marriage these days.

Hubris1998 · 2024-01-17T00:20:39+00:00

After receiving that response, what makes you think those people are in any way mature enough let alone qualified to dish out relationship advice to strangers?

SnooBeans6591 · 2024-01-18T21:21:41+00:00

I sent your advice-request to ChatGPT. It said things like "Reflect on Your Communication Style", "Seek to Understand Her Perspective", "Avoid Escalation".

I told ChatGPT to swap genders, than sent the gender-swapped advice-request. "Seek Support for Yourself", "Consider Professional Help for Your Husband" (ie, her in the orignal), "Legal and Financial Planning (for leaving relationship)".

In any case, the men is the problem. ChatGPT reproduces the biases of it's training data, which includes Reddit. So you know what you are facing.

LONEWOLFF150 · 2024-01-16T12:56:58+00:00

That's just about how dimwitted your average redditers really are.

They don't care about facts they care about feelings so you could go on a sub and say the sky is blue and they'll carefully look at all of your posts and comment history to determine what kind of person you are before they can take in anything you're saying or providing, even if it's good, and yes, even if it's factual because that's just the world we live in now.

Right now people are looking at this post you made right now looking for ways to cancel you and censor you from anywhere you're posting or contributing to here on Reddit.

I'd honestly be surprised if people haven't called you a woman-hating white supremacist fascist capitalist tradcon transphobe racist yet simply by participating in this sub. You're not really an honorary member otherwise lol

ERiC_693 · 2024-01-16T19:44:07+00:00

Same with me. When you question the status quo you will be labelled as a hater, bigot, incel etc. Etc.

Its to maintain a dominant view. If you look at gender issues feminists control these spaces and have applied a black and white binary: male oppressor vs female oppressed.

Once you question this and talk about male issues its disrupting the feminist ideology that runs entire socialsci depts in academia as well as threatens the monopoly over funding if male issues were to be funded it would split funds. Feminists wont want that. Theres also the issue of showing lies and hypocrisy in feminism especially DV stats. As we see more research into male victims we're seeing that feminists have been downright lying in their ideologies and statistics. Theres no doubt about that.

Theres lots of other ideologues that are suspicious in leftist views like automatic belief of a previously oppressed group that you go along with them if they accuse a privileged group.

While i state this i am also aware that discussion on male issues is slowly increasing afaik.

ShawnGH · 2024-01-16T20:28:33+00:00

Obfuscation -- the act of making something less clear and less easy to understand, especially intentionally

Lorry_Al · 2024-01-17T00:07:01+00:00

Objectively evil = I and all of my friends in my echo chamber that we never step out of think it's evil

Hubris1998 · 2024-01-17T00:20:22+00:00

After reading that, what makes you think those people are in any way mature enough let alone qualified to dish out relationship advice to strangers?

vikarti_anatra · 2024-01-17T04:59:41+00:00

I saw a lot of situations where people say "X is OBJECTIVELY evil" except they don't even want to discuss anything and it's clear that they are ..mistaken.. if not outright lie and know it.

HumbleAd1720 · 2024-01-17T16:11:19+00:00

Disgusting how society views us men as expendable creatures, its sickening really the fact that feminists can rally in the open even the radical ones that say stuff like "kill all men" and wouldn't be reprimanded but lord forbid I say I'm a males right advocate...I risk serious social repercussions Whatever made men be so helpless and miserable

Title	I posted to r/mensrights in the past, therefore I’m unreliable
Author	thebuttofahamster
Upvotes	260
Comments	83
Date	January 16, 2024 9:10 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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