Why is it normalized to disparage the genitals of genital mutilation victims?

WhereIsHisRidgedBand · 2024-01-31T16:59:59+00:00

3 mindfucks about circumcision/MGM I may never get over:

/1. Selling foreskins like hoodoo medicine:

Imagine George Clooney spreading rogain serum derived from Malaysian infant girls’ clitorises https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7JzdcZPvzg

/2. Shaming foreskins in nationwide media:

As time went on I discovered my new penis didn’t actually solve any of my problems. When I eventually told friends what I had done, they all asked why. So did the women I told.

I didn’t get circumcised because there was anything wrong with my penis - I did it because I felt shamed by American media and their immorally untrue message that foreskins are dirty and ugly. https://archive.md/J5RTw

/3. Sacrificing foreskins to normalize your ritual:

”I circumcised my son on my parent's kitchen table on the eighth day of his life. But I did it for religious reasons, not medical reasons. I did it because I had 3,000 years of ancestors looking over my shoulder." - Andrew Freedman, The New York Jewish Weekly, Sept 19, 2012 https://youtu.be/FCuy163srRc?t=4284

RatchedAngle · 2024-01-31T17:27:45+00:00

Men really need to adopt the “if women don’t love a man’s natural body then they aren’t real women” mantra that feminists rave about.

Even if you are circumcised and happy about it, start vetting and shaming women who prefer you circumcised. They’ll get the message eventually.

elebrin · 2024-01-31T17:33:17+00:00

It's always funny to me to try to talk to feminists about circumcision. One of their favorite responses is to scream "NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR PEEPEE!!!" Well, yes, and that's the problem that I have.

And, yes, I am going to bring it up because I care and the only way I'm getting anywhere is to bring it up when I deem it relevant. Not when YOU or anyone else deems it relevant, but when I do.

Now - there is absolutely a place for religious ritual. I am a strong believer in the power and value of myth and religion. I think they are key indicators of a culture, and need to be supported. That said, rituals cannot be violent or barbaric, and can be adjusted sensibly when they don't meet the standards of the greater culture.

hottake_toothache · 2024-01-31T17:51:34+00:00

People don't care about men.

justicedragon101 · 2024-01-31T18:47:46+00:00

I want to throw up.

HotwheelsJackOfficia · 2024-01-31T22:32:08+00:00

Baby foreskins have also been used in beauty products.

Proof-Opening9174 · 2024-01-31T19:54:05+00:00

Posts like these, regardless of which social media platform it's posted on, brings out the trolls or those that say, "it's not genital mutilation though. Benefits outweigh the negatives... hurderhurder".

Shreddersaurusrex · 2024-01-31T20:06:41+00:00

It makes me mad but I try to realize that my parents didn’t have the internet available to them. Not sure if they could have found info on the matter via research at a library. But I imagine docs urged them to circumcise.

Dimentio190 · 2024-02-01T01:36:45+00:00

I really hate how I had no consent in my circumcision my mother claims it was for cleaning, but I feel completely mutilated.

Jiggly_Love · 2024-01-31T22:42:49+00:00

Feminist translation: "Man up, it's just a little snip off the top, you man child"

Aletheian2271 · 2024-02-01T03:06:34+00:00

Feminist don't care about men's issues. They never will. But I have to say, I have seen more men defending male circumcision than women. Saying it 'looks' better to women.

I see the same with teacher-student relationship. Calling these kids lucky and that they were jealous of the situation.

I hate these morons than I hate feminists. We have to start educating our own.

volleyballbeach · 2024-01-31T18:59:15+00:00

Is that commenter, whose comment is not ok either way, really disparaging him because of his penis or because he says men don’t care about female rape victims? From this we don’t know

InternationalSilver1 · 2024-02-01T04:20:23+00:00

those who circumcise baby boys need to be put behind bars what should be the punishment whatever the punishment currently is for cutting on girls genitals

boys and intersex kids deserve the same exact protections that girls get

its male genital mutilation

not to mention if cutting on the genitals of baby boys is justified cause "religious freedom" than why isint that also the case for people who cut on girls genitals for religious reasons

Ok-Signature1124 · 2024-01-31T22:55:32+00:00

Looks longer and develops better with the hood on.

tallcan710 · 2024-01-31T23:37:38+00:00

Have you guys heard of oral circumcision? I learned about it recently in a vice article I read. I guess a small group of extremists still practice it even here in America. Before any antisemites try to talk shit please don’t, nobody wants your shit opinion. There’s nothing wrong with being Jewish and this has nothing to do with Jewish people just a small group of religious extremists. Any idiot saying anything racist or bigoted will be blocked and reported.

Peyotine · 2024-01-31T21:20:03+00:00

Breaking news: people do not react positively to someone expressing their concerns by invalidating the struggles of others.

Wow. Shocking revelation.

WrongdoerWilling7657 · 2024-02-01T02:33:22+00:00

I've had this debate before. I'm American and I'm glad I'm circumcised because over here, girls prefer that. My girlfriend thinks I'm crazy for that. But ya if I could snap my fingers and undo the social construct, I'd say I'd be fine being uncircumcised. To be clear though, we really shouldn't be doing it to babies who can't consent. Kind of surprised this is still a thing.

YesYesYesVeryGood · 2024-01-31T18:39:56+00:00

Circumcised when I was 39. No regrets.

ThatOneDude3976 · 2024-02-01T01:46:18+00:00

Honestly, I couldn't care less that I was circumcised. Just gives me one less place to clean.

Peyotine · 2024-01-31T21:11:44+00:00

i kinda dont give a shit

Unlikely-Gas-1355 · 2024-02-01T05:04:59+00:00

Good lord. Circumcision and FGM are not remotely comparable, especially in terms of risk, motivation, method, nor medical basis. Meanwhile, FGM routinely causes trauma while circumcision routinely does not except when botched and FGM is typically done without anesthesia while circumcision is. Simply put, with FGM, the harm seems to be the entire point. Absent such intent and result of routine harm in circumcision, entrusting parents to make medical decisions for their infant children is what we expect and otherwise want as a society, just like we have done for generations. Meanwhile, I can’t get up in arms about a flap of skin I lost while numbed half a century ago.

shawner136 · 2024-01-31T17:51:26+00:00

Im glad I was circumcised

Yep. Still glad. Think ill thank my parents again tbh

Twisting_Storm · 2024-01-31T19:23:39+00:00

Circumcision is not genital mutilation. The benefits outweigh the risks.

_Brophinator · 2024-02-04T18:08:30+00:00

I love circumcision

Title	Why is it normalized to disparage the genitals of genital mutilation victims?
Author	WhereIsHisRidgedBand
Upvotes	460
Comments	126
Date	January 31, 2024 4:59 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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