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[–]blinkums 124 points125 points126 points 13 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
I actually do think Facebook is high risk for many of us. The fact that we frequent Reddit probably means a predisposition to internet addiction / desk jockeying.
I personally deleted my Facebook a year ago because it was addictive, and I felt like I had more friends than I actually did.
[–]TofuTofu 45 points46 points47 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That's a good point. If time-management is a problem for you, then Facebook is dangerous. That being said, you can't really blame the tool for the faults of its bearer.
Speaking from experience, 1 hour a month is about all you need to stay in touch with 500+ connections. Log in, wish people happy birthday, post something once a week or so. That's it!
[–]lannisteralwayspay 19 points20 points21 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
One thing that helped me was removing all the content on my wall/timeline and stop posting. I only comment and post on other profiles now, and these are mostly good interactions.
[–]RiseAboveIt 18 points19 points20 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This!! Now my wall is just full of me getting tagged in photos, having a good time. No moaning posts, NOTHING. Just photos of me having a good time.
[–]colucci 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1 hour a month
Dawgg... this is Facebook we're talking about, 1 hour a day minimum.
[–]jbg89 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bottom line is that it all depends how well you utilize Facebook to complement your game. The only way to make Facebook beneficial is portray that you have an abundance of male and female friends and a fun active social life. Having 500+ friends, posting statuses, links and pics and getting a lot of likes and comments on them, checking into bars, clubs, restaurants, etc., getting tagged in group photos with other women, etc. etc.
Don't get me wrong, I know it sounds stupid as fuck but women love using social media. You basically become a popular "celebrity" to them and they want you more and they start to compete for your attention (think of all the groupies that post on the social media accounts of musicians and actors).
This also works with Twitter (followers) and Instagram (followers and likes).
[–]insaneInsult 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How to turn your Facebook to make you seem like a celebrity. I'm sure there are a set of profile options that portray you as someone more exclusive
[–]jbg89 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't mean it as a Facebook setting that you can change. I mean it as having a lot of friends on it and being active. Your main concern is to not look like a loser when you add a woman on Facebook with 40 friends including your direct family and having some weird profile pic like an anime character or something haha.
[–]Galagan 16 points17 points18 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I deleted mine too. So far my social life has suffered no ill effects from doing so.
[–][deleted] 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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[–]rvhack 11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm remembering a joke about deleting facebook to kick internet addiction and a punchline about then joining reddit
[–]blargg8 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
By delete do you mean deactivate? I'm wondering if there's a way to actually full-out delete it; mine's deactivated.
[–]blinkums 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you don't think you'll use Facebook again, you can request to have your account permanently deleted. Please keep in mind that you won't be able to reactivate your account or retrieve anything you've added. Before you do this, you may want to download a copy of your info from Facebook. Then, if you'd like your account permanently deleted with no option for recovery, log into your account and fill out this form.
http://www.facebook.com/help/224562897555674
[–]DimitriK 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Since I deleted my facebook account, I have more real life friends then I did before and more time on my hands. Edit: Oh yeah, and a bit more privacy doesn't hurt either.
[–]Climbing_a_Mountain 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol true that
[–]Heflar2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
i got no friends, i know this :D
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel the same way. Since I deleted my account two years ago, I've started doing way more stuff with my real friends and in the process learned to socialize. I think Facebook can be a useful tool if you avoid the pitfall of spending too much time on it.
[–]Pugilanthropist 14 points15 points16 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I should really write down some rules for Facebook some time.
Quick version: I have to use it for my work: politics. And as a result have a pretty large online presence, routinely putting up shit from work or some statement that gets 20 likes, sometimes upwards of 40. It's always a little awkward when people you haven't met in person or people you haven't met in a while and they claim they've been following you on Facebook for years, want to talk about my job, blah blah blah.
However, I pretty quickly realized that my Facebook was a megaphone for me and, given what I do involves a lot of online organizing and can very easily slip into the controversial flame-war sort of thing, I've become very, very good at not being abrasive, controlling the narrative of my Facebook profile, while at the same time using it as a tool to maintain my social life as I fly about the country. It does get a little tricky when folks want to tag me from my latest Vegas outing and I have to be cognizant of the fact that I may be vetted for my next position through my Facebook profile, but I'm careful about that too.
Long story short, I have to use Facebook and I have to be smart about it. And I think that's where people fuck up. I saw someone here posted about how they are waaaaay too open about the thoughts going through their mind on Facebook and that hit the nail on the head brilliantly. Thsi should go without saying - DO NOT USE FACEBOOK AS YOUR PERSONAL VENTING PAGE. If you're going to use social media, keep in mind it is a two way public forum. In addition, you can paint yourself as a fun and interesting person over Facebook, but considering how ubiquitous it is in emerging fields, don't talk about how crunk you got on the weekend on there.
Now, that said, the messages and IMs you send to your friends ... those are all private. And there you can be as depraved as you want to be. And at that, I can't agree more with what /u/tofutofu has said ... Facebook provides a degree of familiarity that a text message just doesn't have for one reason or another. I think part of it is just in the semantics of the phrase "instant message."
Moreover, because of the very nature of the medium, when a girl gets an instant message from you out of the blue, she's going to first see your picture. That means it's going to trigger a memory, either good or bad, and she'll associate your message with that memory. So make it good.
Secondly, she'll sometimes click your profile, and there she'll see two things: first, what friends you have in common. Or, as we call it this funny place called the "real world," social proof. Next, she'll probably see some of your conversations with your friends, and since most people use Facebook to brag anyways, you'll probably be demonstrating your value.
As we all know from seeing how this works offline, there's no reason to believe it doesn't work online as well.
Facebook has gotten me laid several times. Hell, it even broke my dry spell randomly last week. Moreover, Facebook is extremely helpful at maintaining professional relationships across large distances. Anyone who's not using it is simply not taking advantage of an available tool at maintaining relationships, whether it's for work or pleasure.
TLDR: Facebook works. Not just at getting laid, but at helping your career too. You have to be smart about it, but if you're not using it, you're shooting yourself in the foot.
[–]LesaneCrooks 25 points26 points27 points 13 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
I deleted my Facebook 3 years ago and couldn't be happier.
It makes you realize people you add you really don't care about knowing what they're doing everyday.
Facebook is pretty much what you make it, right. The people you have are those that will make it worthwhile but even then...I had friends that I knew in real life that once I got a glimpse of their everyday social life sharings they simply became annoying, dumb or made me change my perception of them.
With women, it became false advertising. They take down all their pictures that are "ugly ones" or the ones they think highlight their flaws.
Facebook just became a place to lust over accomplishments and feed off of compliments. Do you ever see anything they did terrible that they know would get frowned upon? The worse were the extremely vague status' seeking attention when they're "sad" for whatever reason.
It's like we market and try to sell ourselves all the time to the entire world for no real reasons.
All of this wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have so much mental energy invested in it. Employers use it to decide if they want to hire you, people using it to decide if they want to befriend you or date you.
Facebook took away the effort to actually meet people and take moments to make them intimate memories. Even birthdays are made irrelevant to remember without Facebook reminding you.
Then again, this is my opinion and could mean nothing to others.
Edit: typo
[–]blindwombat 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Facebook is the reassurance that everyone else's lives are just as dull as yours - Mitch Benn
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would say this isn't even true. I've seen a lot of status updates on FB where people were announcing their successes -- indicating the opposite of a dull life.
And furthermore, people with dull lives just don't post on FB, so there's no reason to be exposed to their dull lives in this way.
[–]ProductivityMonster 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In my experience, it's just a brag forum...I try to only check it once a week. I couldn't care less that someone I met once at a party got promoted or that some random person from my high school got into a good grad program. I usually just hide the people that do this (hide = can't see their stories on my news feed, but not de-friend).
However, it is useful for networking with certain people and keeping in contact with good friends who live far away and girls.
[–]yamehameha 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
-Michael Scott
[–]Auspicion 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Different strokes for different folks.
I understand why people may choose not to use Facebook. There are very valid reasons.
But Facebook is a necessity for some other people. I am a student in a professional graduate program. My class chooses to communicate with each other through our class group. I get instant updates when people post study material, reminders of upcoming deadlines, and invitations to upcoming events (including house parties where I know girls from other programs will be attending).
This is just the way it's done. Now I could forgo Facebook and try to get all this information by myself. But why fight it? I have easy access to information when I want it. I spend less time attaining it, and more time studying, hitting the gym, hanging out, and hitting on girls. I use Facebook minimally for what I need, and then use the rest of my time to improve myself and develop relationships with others.
[–]LesaneCrooks 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Understanding.
Which is why it was only a mere opinion of mine.
I'm not sure where you go to school but for what you described, we have a student portal to interact, gather groups, assignments, discussions, etc.
I guess I'm lucky my college uses this.
[–]Auspicion 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We have a student portal for this as well. But yours is probably better than ours. Ours is cumbersome to use -- probably why everyone chooses to use Facebook over the student portal.
I just added your rhetoric to my argumental spank bank. Thank you
[–]ortofon88 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
When i meet girls and they ask me what my name is on facebook, i love the look on their face when i tell them i dont use facebook. I do have an acct that i use to find local events but i only have about ten close friends added on there. I think some people can use facebook well to their advantage when it comes to dating, and awesome for them. I find it super lame when people are out at a social event checking their feed though.
[–]TofuTofu 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I find it super lame when people are out at a social event checking their feed though.
I couldn't agree more. That was one of the most annoying parts of living in San Francisco :)
[–]maddermonkey 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I live in San Francisco and do this often when someone I dislike is the main speaker of a group interaction, otherwise I keep my phone away to show attention and respect.
[–]Phaint 24 points25 points26 points 13 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
I could not disagree more with this advice. Do not go home and add girls to facebook that you just met at a bar for various reasons. Some I will point out here is that it can come off slightly creepy, needy and completely eliminates any mystery, which is a major factor in attraction, that had surrounded you. I could write quite a bit on avoiding social media with women, from Skype, to twitter, to facebook.
[–]TofuTofu 29 points30 points31 points 13 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
You're missing the point. Of COURSE if you got her number and have a real chance at meeting up, don't add her right that night.
But what about the fun girls who you'll probably never see again but you would be down to party with at a later date? Go ahead and add them! The alternative is never seeing them again.
I assure you, at least 10-20% of these "missed connections" convert to IRL meetups at a later date. I've actually run tests before to test this out.
It's a nearly zero-effort way of keeping connections alive. What's the harm in doing it?
[–]HelloHiHello 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Plus worrying about being creepy or needy just by adding someone on facebook is what causes neediness and creepiness in the first place.
Really awesome post man. How do you generally get info to add people quickly? I'm going to start doing this asap -- do you do it on your phone right there? First/last name? Thanks for the post!
[–]MonkeySteriods 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The harm is that you have to keep your profile clean and only have high quality posts on it. Also, there are girls who aren't so stable that occasionally message you. I find it to be more of a liability more than something that can help you. Also, girls will go through your pictures.
I use it in 2 ways:
My policy... if things go sour block them, don't just defriend them.
[–]TofuTofu 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The harm is that you have to keep your profile clean and only have high quality posts on it.
If you're living an authentic and interesting life, that should just be default mode.
[–]MonkeySteriods 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Its not possible to live an "interesting" and authentic life 100% of the time. There are downtimes. The only person that is 100% up has a personal PR person.
Note: I'm not suggesting that you have really beta status messages saying "i need a girlfriend" etc. [I've seen tons of those]
[–]TofuTofu 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, that's a good point. I guess I just took it without saying not to post inane shit. But a lot of people don't realize that and treat Facebook like LiveJournal haha.
[–]jackzander 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its not possible to live an "interesting" and authentic life 100% of the time.
Why does this keep you from having an interesting, clean, and high-quality social network page?
[–]Phaint -3 points-2 points-1 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So your advice is "find a method to communicate with people that you want to communicate with." Facebook has value as a good way to look people up, I agree. I'd like to hear about these "tests" you've run.
[–]TofuTofu 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure, I outline some of the data in this post on Entourage Game.
[–]silvad7020 points 13 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Contradiction...
[–]Mindwraith 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you can't get her number, add her on Facebook. It's not rocket science.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I generally agree. I'd wait a few days first in case she decides to add you. This occasionally happens and puts you in a better position.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The alternative is that they could add you, which is much more informative. The harm in adding everyone on facebook is that attraction is based on mystery. As soon as a girl is your facebook friend and is able to sort through 900 pictures of you and see updates from you every few days, there is no more mystery and no more attraction.
[–]TofuTofu 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
As soon as a girl is your facebook friend and is able to sort through 900 pictures of you and see updates from you every few days, there is no more mystery and no more attraction.
In my experience, that's not actually the case. If you live an interesting life, and don't use Facebook like it's LiveJournal 2.0, it's possible to actually increase attraction via Facebook. It's especially effective for those girls who you may not see again for months. It keeps numbers from going stale.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Well, I appreciate your perspective, I'll have to think about this. There are definitely a couple girls from out of town who I k-closed in the last few weeks who I will probably never see again. If I added them of Facebook, maybe I could hit them up if I'm in their neighborhood.... I am more hesitant about adding a girl that I will see again because I can't help but think it will extinguish any mystery I had before.
Edit: just added two of em... we'll see how it goes. I k-closed them both about 3 weeks ago lol
Edit: both accepted within 10 minutes.... I'll shoot them both a message tomorrow
[–]TofuTofu 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just see it as kind of a lifestyle augmentation. It takes literally zero effort to add all those random women you meet (assuming you're going out with any regularity) but you might see them some time in the future because of it. I have nights where I'll get close to 10 numbers. It's just impossible to manage without social media.
Over months and years those random additions add up.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do think it adds to social proof too if people are always seeing you becoming facebook friends with women. At least shows that you are meeting/talking to women.
[–]son-of-magnus 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
How about forgetting the silly old rules and just being a genuinely good person. Women are people as well and don't need a set of rules to govern interacting with them. Drop the act because you look like fools.
[–]Phaint 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Wow this sub went to shit. You're on a forum for seducing women, where the fuck do you think you are?
[–]son-of-magnus -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You want to know where I am! There's no useful advice from you, it's just you and me. And on the off-chance you're a man, here's my home address - 10880 Malibu Point 90265. I'll leave the door unlocked.
[–]Phaint 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Clearly you're insane and unable to read sentences.
[–]son-of-magnus -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why am I insane? Why can't I read sentences? What have you got against me? Why are we here?
[–]cooledcannon -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i prefer adding people on fb as i dont have a phone(i cbf carrying a phone all the time everywhere i go, prefer travelling light)
[–]Jake_STi-RA 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Facebook can be a tool but a burden at the same time. It's good for more introverted people like myself that don't really get out often.
Don't let it fool you into thinking you have lots of friends because there's a good balance between having that Facebook network and real world network.
I laugh at myself for this because I post a status of something whitty but thought provoking and I get tons of likes and comments. Then I post a status if someone wants to grab a beer at this joint downtown and I get maybe 2 likes but no interaction. Huh...
[–]KallistiEngel4 points 13 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Could you explain why you think it's better to be generous with likes? I would have assumed being too generous with likes would water down their significance.
There are a few people I know are going to like most of my posts. It's predictable. But when someone who rarely, if ever, likes things hits that like button, it stands out to me.
[–]TofuTofu 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, you shouldn't be liking everything. I probably like 3-4 posts a day and that makes up less than 1% of all my Facebook news feed. So I guess that's what I meant. You shouldn't like everything a hot girl puts on her FB, but maybe throwing her a like once every few months doesn't hurt.
That's what I meant by generous. Hope that clears it up!
[–]KallistiEngel5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Ah, okay. That makes a bit more sense. That's a lot less generous than what I thought you meant.
So basically don't be a total lurker, throw out a like every once in a while.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 13 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
I'd rather not use Facebook. Like, I don't have an account. It serves me pretty well.
[–]TofuTofu 20 points21 points22 points 13 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
May I ask your reasons?
I'm not saying this is you, but I know a lot of people end up deleting Facebook because they are bad at time-management and end up losing a lot of time in the Facebook void. That's obviously a bigger problem.
I can just speak from experience, but I went through about a 4 year span where I ignored Facebook. My social life (and life in general) took a big turn for the better when I began using it as a tool like this. As I travel the world and meet cool people, it's amazing to keep connections alive. Just knowing I have a network of friends (and hot women) I can call on in different cities is an incredible confidence booster.
Try texting or calling up a number you got 2 years ago? Yeah, good luck meeting them again.
Now try to meet up with someone who has been following your life story on Facebook for the past 2 years.
It's like night and day. I guarantee people who do not use Facebook are missing out on some potential connections.
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[–]TofuTofu 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I want them interested in ME, not my facebook.
I guess my point is that, you risk losing contact with people who are interested in you, but logistically can't hang out with you right then and now.
Not having a Facebook means you will miss out on certain connections. This is especially true for people who travel/move around a lot.
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[–]TofuTofu 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Haha yes! Be careful with "liking" pages. Liking someone's post is ephemeral and carries little long-term risk. Liking pages will stick with you forever (especially in the form of advertisements).
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[–]Gr8WhiteGrammarNazi 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
piqued
[–]KallistiEngel2 points 13 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, I had to go through and remove several years worth of liked pages recently. Now I just have the ones that I actually want updates from. Bands I and local businesses mostly. It's a much better experience now.
Back when liking or becoming a fan of things was new we all tended to like way too many and mostly silly things, like "not being on fire". Same thing that happened when apps were a new thing for facebook.
[–]cooledcannon 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have way too much to say about a lot of things and can't seem to help myself
i used to have that problem until i made a reddit account. now i have a fb but i just leave it alone because of so many not-so-smart people that im friends with, but i express myself commenting on reddit
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're right, there are connections I've likely missed. On the other hand, I value serious connections more than casual ones; if someone is going to be in my life, I want them in my life. It means fewer people overall, but I find I have more meaningful relationships, short and long term. If my primary way of keeping in touch with someone is Facebook, then I really don't feel the need to bother with them. This I clues my grandparents, not just random women.
And of course, if I want to connect with someone and they want to give me their Facebook and not their number, they're not interested enough for me to continue pursuit.
[–]TofuTofu 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. You understand the trade-off and accept it. That's what it's all about!
Facebook is definitely valuable as a way to keep in touch with people who live far away from you. Of course, these typically aren't people that you are trying to hookup with. Nevertheless, it is very valuable if you travel a lot so that you can quickly see which of your friends are in X city and see what they are up to.
Where I differ from you is using facebook as a way to seduce a girl. It destroys your mystery and the only time I use it when I'm trying to attract a girl is if she adds me or if I failed to close (never got her phone number). Adding the girl on facebook the next day is not closing.
[–]Popxorcist 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would probably never have gotten an invite to last Friday's VIP party and met that woman if it wasn't for FB's Events. There's no reason not to have an account, for me at least.
[–]mynameiscalvin 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unlike many others on here i TOTALLY AGREE with this....obviously as with all things, some self control is necessary ie: don't be a creep, but I can attest to the fact that it can be a good way to maintain attraction with girls that live far away from you but could still visit from time to time.
story time: I met a girl at a friends party, turns out she was from two states away visiting my friend along with his other high school friends. I added her on facebook a few days later and began the slow and sheepish cycle of trading likes on photos and sharing links and what not....eventually a few months down the line, I find myself in my friends hometown, message her on facebook, get her number and meetup. unfortunately she had a boyfriend at the time but attraction was nevertheless built(we had A LOT in common).
(another great thing about facebook is that you can immediately tell which girls are in a serious relationship and you can tell when they are single again) this sounds kinda creepy but i promise i don't spend all my time stalking girls on facebook...
anyways I continue building the attraction over facebook, chats and pokes and whatnot and soon I see that she is single...
I eventually arrange a visit and guess what now we're dating..so how about that
I can also attest to the whole "couch surfing" benefits from facebook too. Your friends will move and when you have about 800 of them you won't be keeping up with all of them. when going on a trip to another city I just check facebook to see if any of my friends (ones the I am close enough to stay with at least) live there, and sometimes they do! Boom! you get a free place to stay and a fun night of reminiscing and joking with old friends.
facebook is great guys, just don't get addicted and don't be a creep
I've been having this argument with a friend for months now. He refuses to use facebook, but wants to improve socially. Our social circle organizes events on facebook however and 99% of the time I am the only person who will remember to text him, this guy also doesn't have a car and almost always asks me for a ride when I remind him something is coming up. I'm pretty close to just letting him figure it out for himself because he's just shooting himself in the foot and wasting my time/effort.
[–]mrbrinks 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is one bit of advice Tofu that I have to disagree on. My girlfriends always lament on how they get creeped out when guys add them on FB too quickly, regardless the level of interaction they had.
I could see this advice being used for girls you KNOW are long-shots and will most likely never see again so it's a fine roll of the dice since you lose nothing, but if it's girl you could see again I'm very much against the FB friend request.
[–]TofuTofu 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I could see this advice being used for girls you KNOW are long-shots and will most likely never see again so it's a fine roll of the dice since you lose nothing,
Yup. That's actually what I was trying to say. The girls who are long-shots, or logistically messy (example: you meet someone while on vacation) should be added right away.
[–]mrbrinks 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes - perfect! A few months ago, I was visiting home, and ran into a girl I crushed hard on in like 9th grade. We talked, said our goodbyes, and then I added her on FB. Just yesterday(!) she sent me a FB message as she saw that I attended a concert of her favorite bands, and she's going to be moving in from the suburbs into my current city and wants to meet up. Numbers exchanged, and I'll be seeing her next week - all on ZERO effort from my part.
[–]Jerfy 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do you avoid adding girls who you frequently see on facebook? or should we be adding them as well?
Answer: have a fb, but dont add them, wait for them to add you
[–]dongnasty 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Facebook in my opinion can be so polarizing with so much religion and politics being the theme of so many posts. I prefer instagram which is only photos with a small blurb of a description on each photo. No advertisements and it is a lot more casual than Facebook.
That's a very valid point. I wouldn't say to use it exclusively, but using Instagram as your main social media and then cross-posting to Facebook is a good way to stay in front of everyone.
[–]Ra1den 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I've always avoided Facebook, but this topic is making me consider opening an account. I would only want to use it for girls though. Can anybody you are friends with see all of your other contacts?
[–]Marvster 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
anyone you are friends with can see your friends list. So it is kind of a bad idea to only add girls.
[–]Ra1den 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I went ahead and opened an account, haha. At first it was as you described, but with some tinkering I was able to get it to keep my friends list private. You can't do it from the regular privacy options, you have to go to the "friends" tab, and then select edit. That's pretty cool, so you can have the benefits without the drawbacks.
[–]fish619407 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't have a phone.
I arranged all of my current GF's dates and get togethers with FB.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why should I kick start your book? I think it's a fair question, who are you and why should I pay money for your words?
It's certainly a fair question. I wrote a bit about my back story here: http://redd.it/11ng7n
If you're new to seddit, I've been a member of the moderation team for about 2.5 years. I recently stepped down to focus on my writing. I wrote about that here: http://redd.it/1egw79
[–]azooee 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Could not have said it better myself. Tofu, your advice is always right and I cannot wait to read your book. Wish you lots of success.
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[–]TofuTofu 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thank you! Any idea if that is a clinical term? I'm hoping to do more reading up on this topic for a section in the book.
[–]DeuceBuggalo -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Pollyanna principle is another way of describing this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollyanna_principle#Pollyanna_principle
[–]lintlickerrr 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do not question the great TofuTofu.
I have use Facebook primarily as a way to keep in touch with friends and family, but i am guilty of randomly adding hot girls who are suggested by the "you may know" feature of FB.
Anyway sometime ago i added a girl i liked (a friend of a friend of a friend), because of her "Goth looks" (I'm more of a tie-less suite kind of guy tho) because the looks have always intrigued me. Anyway i made a couple of wise cracks on her status, been funny and all and got positive feedback, and a couple of weeks later i saw her online on the chat, so my opening was literally this "Hey X can i ask you a question?", she said something along the lines of "yeah dude" and i asked about her tattoos and where she got them, showed a pic of a tattoo i have and asked her if she could connect me with the guy that did all hers (she has a lot)
We made a date to with the tat artist next saturday and after that we went for a drink at my flat, it was a pretty cool day.
I have been doing these 2 or 3 times a month with solid results, the key here is not start by saying hi/hello/etc, but by saying "can i ask you a question/ i need your opinion on something/or any variation of that) and then ask the girl about something you know she likes/works at , tats, fashion, drugs, dance, games, GAME OF THRONES (I'm particular interested in this girl).
My point, as Tofu said, don't dismiss FB game, is an easy way to set dates with little to no effort.
Also I can't wait for your book man, seduction as we practice it here is not just awesome for picking up, but since i have learned i have been doing amazing in my familiar, personal, and work life.
Cheers.
Nice try zuckerberg
[–]Deranged_Individual2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I honestly think that using facebook will not get you laid and if it does it is a very small percentage. Usually when I meet girls the most important thing to collect from them is the NUMBER. That's all you really need. Why would you add her on facebook when you just met her? There is no point, she can then stalk your profile and find out most of what you're about. As for adding people you see who you believe are cool and what not, I mean that's great and everything but in the end it won't really affect how much you get laid...
[–]chru232 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Does anybody else not use Facebook because they want to keep social circles and other aspects of their lives private? AKA to avoid being Facebook stalked by other people?
I have an account but never post anything publicly as I don't want to have public conversations that can be read by hundreds of people, I don't want all those people seeing everyone else I know, I don't want everyone to know what I'd doing all the time, I need to keep track of who can see what, etc. It's just too much of a headache so I just use my account for private messages.
What are your thoughts Tofu? I had a look through your personal account and seen you have almost 600 people added. Do you ever think "Okay, this post/comment/like is going to be seen by hundreds of people when I click this button" before posting?
[–]MuscleBrick1 points 13 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
If I may ask a question:
When and what would you post to a girls wall? I usually just chat or send a interesting link. But can posting on walls be useful?
I would say... If you have something truly relevant, then it's fine. Otherwise I would do it very, very rarely.
Like: "When you coming back to NY?" is a type of message you should probably send once a year or less.
[–]xNaDx 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is kind of a stupid question, but whats the difference between wall posting and private messaging? I know the technical differences but you know what i mean!
[–]SecretAgentZeroNine 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I disagree. I know waaaaay too many women who damn near stalk their partners female commentors/likers to later on bring it up even if its nothing but a plutonic friendship. I don't need that drama in my life.
My SO and I agreed right from the start to not be Facebook friends. It's MUCH easier that way :)
[–]leodoestheopposite 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know what the psychological phenomenon is called, but we all have a tendency to romanticize and idealize memories over time.
Actually it's called hypnosis, not it's not what you think the Las Vegas style show, if you are really interested, read or better study the work of Milton H. Erickson.
[–]crybabypeepants 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think people will just be fine with using Messenger. That's all I really use to touch base with everyone once a week or so.
[–]rollerskatedog 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i disagree, but if works for you then keep on doing dat shiiiiiit
[–]insaneInsult 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As a teenager who deleted his Facebook where social media was a necessity for social interaction sometimes I feel as if I've made a very big mistake. However I know I'm better without it in some ways
[–]61secondsandmore 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am personally ignoring facebook due to time management and prolly because of nonsensical noise you can find on the news feed. I am deleting it on the 31st of December while it is certainly still deactivated. I believe deactivating has caused me to focus more of my interests rather than bathing myself with news about others. I have 899 friends there but only a few that I can really call close. I believe its a great tool, but not necessarily something for people who wants to know more about their interests. You want an active life? I advice....leave it.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Actually I think facebook is very bad to show to a girl. When friending them it will show who you really are, I've friended about three people on facebook and literally I or the other person could not stand each other when talking again. It was like being in the friendzone all over again. Facebook is a really bad move.
[–]xNaDx 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Whats wrong with it showing who you really are?
[–]TofuTofu 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I had the same thought when I read his comment... We should ultimately be striving to live lives of authenticity. Don't be ashamed of who you are!
I feel like girls like mysterious guys, they love to figure who you are and not know everything at once.
That's true and pretty easily solved... Don't treat Facebook like LiveJournal and you'll be fine :)
[–]LesaneCrooks 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Agreed.
There's the person you "know" then there's the Facebook version of that person.
[–]patrick_Batemann 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is so true in regards to "facebook version" of that person. I'm in college and my roomate who i've known since my sophmore year (I'm a senior and hes a junior) has turned out to be a huge bullshitter when it comes to things about himself via facebook and i know why. His game has actually revolved around FB since he got to college. He actually has a reputation for picking up girls via adding them and FB chatting and he's good, gotta admit but alot of that comes with the fact that he creates a different persona of himself via FB. He's always claiming that he does all these extreme sports like ATV's, motocross, surfing, wake boarding etc. by posting statuses about it and posting pictures. Living with him the past year though has shown me how that's all a bullshit stunt because he doesn't do any of that stuff. In regards to the pictures, he never has pictures of himself doing the activities just occasional pictures of the toys/gear he buys that he never uses. About two months ago he bought a $200 Wake board and he hasn't even attempted to use it even though he'll post it online for everyone to see what a sick wake skater he is while posting captions like #WAKELIFE with the picture. That's just one examle of many. On top of that he adds everyone in the world and their 2nd cousins so he has like 2,000 friends in order to look like a local social diva and he's constantly posting statuses about his aspirations/plans/ life improvement but he never goes through with any of it. He reminds me of what they used to call "poseur" skater kids in middle school who would have their mom buy them the nice skateboard/shoes/shirts/gear etc. so he looks like a skater but he actually sucks and just wants to rep the image.
[–]cooledcannon 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
He's always claiming that he does all these extreme sports like ATV's, motocross, surfing, wake boarding etc.
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he doesn't do any of that stuff.
the toys/gear he buys that he never uses. About two months ago he bought a $200 Wake board
why? if he has the money to buy the gear, why doesnt he do the sports? those are fun as hell, its not as if its a chore or anything. In fact, i reckon most of those sports are more fun than fucking girls and definitely more fun than running game, but thats just my opinion
[–]patrick_Batemann 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
To be honest, i really don't know why. He doesn't do great in school and he's not in a hard major at all so i assume it's cause he's lazy, perhaps actually scared to really try to get good at the things he claims. He's actually done those things at some point in his his life but nowhere near as much as he claims he does, acting like he's all about it sometimes. I think it's also possible that he's satisfied knowing that most people (particularly girls) believe him about this stuff so he doesn't put in the effort to actually be that person. Another possibility is he's afraid of people actually finding out what a fraud he is. Let's say he goes out with some people and tries those things and he actually sucks...well not good PR for himself right there.
[–]cooledcannon 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you are good friends with him, tell him even if he sucks at the sport, it doesnt matter. Almost everyone new to the sport sucks, and some people still suck after alot of practise. You can always justify being "bad" at the sport with a "so what?, im having fun"
Yeah, he might be a little lazy. But imo spending everyday on fb trying to look cool is just as much effort as spending once a week/2-3 times a month doing cool activities, but significantly less fun. Actually doing the extreme sports is immensely satisfying, probably more than fucking a hot girl. (only did surfing, and not the other activities, but i did skiing as well. both sports had an exhilarating feeling)
[–]Fullofshitguy 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck Facebook. Don't make it so easy for someone to e stalk you. It lowers your value. Especially when they see the typical lame ass Facebook shit occur over and over. Try to be a little more mysterious then every other smuck who gives away every scrap of information about themselves on one web page.
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