Sex-selective IVF apparently favors girls in the US

Gnome_Child_Deluxe · 2024-05-07T22:38:09+00:00

Self proclaimed progressive people who think the answer to sexism in society is even more sexism will never cease to amaze me with their ability to rationalize themselves out of any problem you can throw at them.

I secretly wish that people who think like this end up having trans children. It's petty and it would probably be unfair on the child but it would make me laugh so hard if your designer baby told you that you could go fuck yourself the first opportunity they got.

Franksss · 2024-05-07T21:02:00+00:00

Grace, a 31-year-old who works in human resources (I’m referring to her by her middle name), told me, “When I think about having a child that’s a boy, it’s almost a repulsion, like, Oh my God, no**.”**

Grace and her FAANG (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google) engineer fiancé are freezing embryos to preserve their fertility—and to ensure they avoid that “Oh my God, no” scenario. After she turned 30, her fiancé wanted to make embryos right away. Grace wasn’t particularly eager to kick off the kid-having process: “I don’t like kids. I don’t want kids anytime soon. Especially one that’s a boy.” But she also thinks that her feelings around kids may change—and she wants to be able to dodge the possibility of becoming a “boy mom” if they do.

What’s so bad about boys? “Toxic masculinity,” said many women I spoke to, even those who were, sadly, already boy moms. For many, going through all the trouble to ensure a girl feels like a social good. Amy’s partner, Guthrie, believes that because oldest children tend to be more successful, if everyone did sex selection we could squash inequality by manipulating birth order. “Maybe one of our best chances at trying to destroy the glass ceiling is to have women first,” said Guthrie. Among the moms I spoke to who already have boys, many want to give their sons sisters to make them into better men. They believe that girls can do anything—a conviction that often comes with the subtext that boys are incapable of doing their own laundry, calling their moms, expressing empathy, or even really being part of the family as they get older. “I don’t know a guy who has a strong relationship with his mother or his father,” Grace told me.

The perception is that boys are trouble—or at least are susceptible to a particular kind of trouble. There’s been a heavily reported-on crisis of masculinity, with men lagging in almost every metric that matters to success-obsessed Silicon Valley. Men are less likely to finish high school, graduate college, and have children. One study found that 60 percent of young men are single, compared with 30 percent of young women, who are more likely to be in a queer relationship.

To many, the prospect of raising a girl just feels as if it will be easier. She’s far less likely to commit a mass shooting or to idolize Andrew Tate. She’s also, points out Moayeri, less likely to be diagnosed with autism. Although a man striving to make as much money as possible might feel capitalist and gross, a woman who does the same is a #girlboss—a beloved trope among millennials making their way in an industry in which only 23 percent of technical roles are filled by women. A daughter, if you squint, can have all of the achievements with none of the baggage.

This is so gross on so many levels. Also have to laugh at the idea that we have to have girls to smash the glass ceiling, as boys are more successful, but we should also have girls because the crisis in masculinity means girls are more successful.

RSA1RSA · 2024-05-07T19:18:27+00:00

But hey, misandry doesn't exist. Describing having boys as "gross" is completely cool.

NYD3030 · 2024-05-08T02:29:40+00:00

I once knew someone who put her son in a ‘the future is female’ onesie for the first photo she shared publicly just a few days after his birth. I bet he’s loving life right now.

White_Buffalos · 2024-05-08T03:00:43+00:00

Sort of Nazi-lite.

AlecMaiz0 · 2024-05-08T03:12:52+00:00

The author can barely hide her glee

hottake_toothache · 2024-05-07T20:36:11+00:00

Not at all surprising. I didn't see any stats in the article, which is understandable because they are probably very hard to collect.

galatians629 · 2024-05-08T08:50:05+00:00

Literal eugenics. Disgusting. The lack of long-term thinking is astonishing, for the supposedly 'intelligent' silicon valley elites who can't see that a country with constantly diminishing numbers of sons is a country where the majority of these precious tailored daughters will either struggle enormously to find partners, or will simply leave to find one in another country.

But I guess none of them are thinking about the child when they do this - it's all about what value they can get from the child, even before the poor thing is born. Selfish narcissistic trash. Good luck with your 'mini-me' and your 'best friend' when she moves to the other side of the earth, lol

2024-05-09T02:09:00+00:00

They literally hate us. Remember that when they ask for “empathy”.

HinduProphet · 2024-05-08T06:03:30+00:00

India and China finally have some competition.

Attackoftheglobules · 2024-05-08T09:24:35+00:00

This is eugenics?

PyroGamer666 · 2024-05-12T21:33:34+00:00

This is good for men. By default, around 107 boys are born for every 100 girls, and this gender imbalance is responsible for promoting beliefs in male disposability. As the world becomes less violent, this natural ratio will fail to be counteracted by workplace deaths, and social problems resulting from many men going without a mate will be the result. The obvious solution is correcting the natural gender imbalance through IVF. Much like how the black plague advanced workers rights by reducing the labor supply, a world full of sex-selective IVF will improve the lives of the men that are born.

odeacon · 2024-05-07T20:59:12+00:00

No way?! What surprise this is

White_Buffalos · 2024-05-08T03:08:53+00:00

Society has become too feminized. That's a bad thing and will result in stagnation and the risk of being dominated by another culture (e.g., Islamists).

Women can't address this; only men can fix this slow slide into global irrelevance.

Lobster556 · 2024-05-07T19:26:24+00:00

In my opinion, this is not a bad thing. Life is hard for men. There is no reason to push for more men to be born. Couples choosing girls doesn't harm existing men.

Edit: To those downvoting, I understand not every male is as depressed and jaded as I am. Plenty are happy to be alive, okay. But please explain who is being harmed/victimized here?

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