National Review: The Democrats Have a Woman Problem

_WutzInAName_ · 2024-12-05T18:56:47+00:00

And in case you missed it, from The Guardian:

"What men heard from the right was: you’ve got problems, we don’t have solutions. What they heard from the left is: you don’t have problems, you are the problem."

"The danger is Democrats believe they just need to double down on attacks on patriarchy and toxic masculinity. That would be disastrous."

StupidSexyQuestions · 2024-12-06T20:22:54+00:00

I’m certainly glad we seem to be reaching critical mass on men’s issues and hopefully this is the long awaited turning point.

What is absolutely baffling to me is the amount of people that seem to think this is a new/only a recent problem. It’s been like this for so long, and in my estimation the only thing that’s changed is a ramp up of toxic behavior in the last 10-15 years along with a younger generation of men that have been sold equality all their lives and do not feel as though it’s been reciprocated even a bit. Young gen z and millennial men were told not to be the “suck it up and provide” men previous generations were and to show their emotions. It’s so ironically cruel that so many of them are being shamed and labeled toxic for expressing that they feel the situation is unfair and taking the lessons they’ve been taught all their lives to heart.

ChemistryFederal6387 · 2024-12-06T06:50:11+00:00

"What men heard from the right was: you’ve got problems, we don’t have solutions. What they heard from the left is: you don’t have problems, you are the problem."

This pretty much sums up why the left lose.

They use men as a punching bag and then are baffled why they can't get their votes.

eli_ashe · 2024-12-05T22:50:33+00:00

the guardian isnt far left, and the national review isnt far right.

the national review has largely be staunchly against trump, still is too, tho not entirely uniformly so. traditionally they have regularly pushed back specifically against the far right.

the guardian doesnt tend to support communistic or statist positions, they are oft critical of even socialist democratics, they tend towards a leftist position for sure, but they are hardly far left.

aside from that, thanks for the post. it is good to see folks bringing these issues up across the political spectrum.

ZPATRMMTHEGREAT · 2024-12-06T02:02:47+00:00

The guardian is by all measures not a far left newspaper.It has a left leaning bias so I would say centre left or just left but absolutely not far left.

LoganCaleSalad · 2024-12-08T06:38:20+00:00

For those that aren't I HIGHLY RECOMMEND you go follow ShoeOnHead on YT & other social media. Her 2 videos on this subject one before the election & one just a couple weeks ago that went waaaay harder on the dems are absolutely phenomenal. The second video doesn't focus solely on the misandry of the left but also their outright condescension of middle & working class people without college degrees.

The last few months these same sentiments have been echoed by Bernie Sanders & John Stewart yet the MSM pundits are already falling back on the spectacular cope of "we did nothing wrong it's the rest of the country that are just bigots." Unless they get some fucking self-awareness the progressives will be hopelessly outmatched leaving the absolutely worse people running the country.

HantuBuster · 2024-12-05T23:01:23+00:00

Can't access the full article sadly.

BloomingBrains · 2024-12-06T06:27:53+00:00

The gender war waged against men is literally the reason Trump keeps getting elected. At this point I almost have to wonder if the dems secretly want this. And the worst thing about it is that if you as a man fight back you are told you're the problem for not sucking it up and voting for people who hate you anyway. I personally voted for Kamala to keep Trump out of office but I don't begrudge anyone who didn't. Its not an easy thing to simply decide between two different deeply help principles that in this day and age are unfortunately incompatible.

leroy2007 · 2024-12-08T18:13:31+00:00

I knew we were gonna lose when Harris put out the ad telling men that we won’t be able to get laid if we don’t vote for her. Men want so much more than sex and it’s fucking insulting that they see us as just morons that can be manipulated with sex.

Local-Willingness784 · 2024-12-06T02:58:57+00:00

i cant agree with some stuff in the article, part of it about the trans-panic that is apparently happening, but also because it creates this narrative of people voting for Trump out of spite, and while I support and care about the many grievances that people have with the democrats and kamala harris, I cant support voting for trump for that reason, at risk of sounding like a costal elite.

mje1278 · 2024-12-08T16:06:22+00:00

How does selective service control men's bodies?

Tevorino · 2024-12-06T18:07:28+00:00

What's also amazing is that both The National Review (far right) and The Guardian (far left) have published articles that agree on the Democrats' misandry.

If you think those two publications represent the extreme ends of the political spectrum, then you haven't seen extremism.

YetAgain67 · 2024-12-06T11:09:51+00:00

I ain't reading a right wing rag.

ESchwenke · 2024-12-05T23:41:37+00:00

As much as I hate the compulsory registration for Selective Service for only men (and I do, trust me), the last draft in the US ended over 50 years ago. I haven’t heard anyone in power seriously recommend bringing it back. Yes, it was disastrous for men in the past, but it has no real bearing on our lives these days. Trying to compare it to the issue of reproductive rights is going to be mocked for this reason alone unless Trump decides to change his foreign policy and, I don’t know, invade Poland.

KingDorkFTC · 2024-12-06T10:38:52+00:00

I heard nothing that wasn't true. Was it harsh, yes. The bigger issue is that Dems didn't want to sell anything to misogynist/racist people that would make them overlook their own shortcomings. A bigot can overlook those they hate getting more as long as they get more too. Dems offered nothing new to anyone, only the status quo and what was lost.

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