Always assume they’re going to flake.

DisplayAcrobatic · 2025-01-02T20:16:51+00:00

This is 100% the way to go.

Women are ruthless so you MUST be as well.

OriginalMandem · 2025-01-02T21:00:41+00:00

They were just as flakey in 2005 lol

FriendlyWrenChilling · 2025-01-03T02:43:15+00:00

Numbers are flakey in nature. I'd say that 60% will be flakes. Maybe even as high as 80% if you're a begineer. That's why it's imporatnt to stay in set to make the number solid or to allign yourself for the insta date.

Auckboy · 2025-01-03T09:47:56+00:00

Girls do flake a lot, it can be very frustrating! Why do you think girls flake? Is it mainly as they just want validation from your attention but have no interest in actually meeting you?

Sandvicheater · 2025-01-02T22:41:51+00:00

Any women that's punctual is already waifu wife material in my eyes

FreeTheMarket · 2025-01-02T19:31:07+00:00

I’ve gone on over 80 first dates in my life and I’ve only been stood up once.

If it happens to you often, then it’s a you problem.

Lastly, cancelling on girl #2 technically is also flaking on your end if it’s within 12 hours of the date time. Especially if you have no good reason to cancel. So you’re just adding to the problem of flakiness.

Here is the real advice: have a 1-3 FWBs as back ups in case a date flakes. In my case I never have sex on the first date anyway, so I always have plans for one of my FWBs to come over after.

Edit: it could also be the girls you’re chasing. High quality women are reliable.

benditoverbenditover · 2025-01-02T21:31:05+00:00

you choose the one you’d rather go out with and then reschedule the other one.

How do you explain this to her? What is your go-to way so that she doesn't dislike you but understands?

PricedOut4Ever · 2025-01-03T01:34:28+00:00

Things happen and plans change for people. Being ok if a girl changes plans or flakes is an absolute must. You can’t let things outside of your control sewer your night or impact how you feel about yourself.

But it shouldn’t be happening that frequently. When I’ve been flaked on frequently in the past a lot of it was my fault. The way I counter it is: 1. I don’t book dates far in advance 2. I keep up a light texting rapport before the first date and between other dates 3. I verify the date day or day before. Simple text like “Looking forward to meeting you tomorrow 6pm at X”

Shylockvanpelt · 2025-01-03T09:44:45+00:00

They flake even prior to dates, in conversations... More and more since after covid

Trip_seize · 2025-01-03T17:12:10+00:00

So basically, flake on THEM before they do it to us?

What if the reason they flake is because they have multiple dates lined up? (flakeception)

robbify · 2025-01-02T23:48:29+00:00

Sorry bruh. You might actually be the problem especially since it happens to you so often. All my years of dating and hooking up, I can probably count on one hand how many times a woman has canceled on the date last minute. And I’ve never been stood up if the plan was for us to meet up somewhere. I’m all for not allowing women to waste your time but you’re perpetuating your own problem here. If someone cancels on you, move on and get someone else. Go enjoy your night in another way. A way that doesn’t ruin someone else’s night who was planning to go on a date with you. That’s real advice.

Its__Garbox · 2025-01-03T04:10:03+00:00

I agree

Ur_X · 2025-01-03T04:08:52+00:00

This is terrible mentality imo. Why not instead be positive that she’ll show up. And if she doesn’t it’s her damn loss

FakeSafeWord · 2025-01-02T21:40:11+00:00

So now I have to assume attraction and that they're not interested!?

/s

StationMental2176 · 2025-01-03T11:17:57+00:00

Fear of rejection!!

Fantastic-Life-2024 · 2025-01-03T12:19:29+00:00

I've never been flaked on ever.

TuneSoft7119 · 2025-01-03T14:51:41+00:00

everyone will always flake. Every time. in this day and age no one is respectful enough to keep a plan.

Long_Transition1288 · 2025-01-03T19:00:53+00:00

Just read this book, i think flaking is part of the game!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DLXRQ1TQ

CharmingRejector · 2025-01-03T19:06:51+00:00

With that attitude, more women will flake.

With the right attitude, women will be invested in you, and they will never flake.

The solution is to be more outcome independent when chatting with women, while making sure that the lifestyle you lead is so attractive that she will want to seek you out first. You can ofc also try to fake this (fake it 'till you make it) by acting this out completely, and only ever give out your number, and only ever do that if the woman seems genuinely interested in you. This adds a new layer of quality to the interactions you have, because since you've already decided to not ask out women nilly-willy, you will subconsciously know that only really good interactions will ever lead to a date. And if the interaction is that good, the girl will never flake since she'll often be the one asking you out.

So, this is just to give you some ideas to toy with, and a general outline of how to live a truly attractive lifestyle, and how to have really passionate and great interaction instead of one-side "approaches" where your single goal is to "get her to like you." IMHO that's starting at the wrong end. The right end is to ask yourself, "How do I make such an attractive lifestyle, and act so confident and charismatic, that women are attracted to me wherever I go, and where I can subtly display this value to them by never asking for their number, and only ever suggest things she'll be super-thrilled to be invited to?"

All the best!

PeterLamb87 · 2025-01-04T09:23:42+00:00

Girls dont always flake, they only do so when you cant hook them, still its shitty behaviour, and its true, the risk is always there.

But flaking on a women because you want to look alfa is scumbag behaviour, its shitty when women do it and shitty when men do it. First learn to use an agenda, never set a date when you already have another activity scheduled,, also, if a girl flakes without a valid reason, dump her and call someone you have already met for a date (its almost 100% sure sex if you actually know what you are doing), ask some friends to come over and have some beers, or play videogames or whatever you like to do.

epimpstyle · 2025-01-02T22:16:23+00:00

always assume that they will flake on the plans.

If you do what you say, they will see that you are not interested and they will actually flake. Imagine you open a business, do you open the business thinking you won't make money, or do you expect to make a lot of money and do your best to achieve that goal? The same is true with women. You can't put in 50% effort and expect the best to happen.

what I like to do is try and plan multiple dates

Why do you do that? Do you ever call/text her to confirm your date? What about telling them that YOU cannot go on a date with them because .... [whatever reason] ? Nah. I doubt you do any of these things.

Title	Always assume they’re going to flake.
Author	nick111499
Upvotes	263
Comments	54
Date	January 2, 2025 7:23 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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