What are good responses to women who say men have it easy / men aren’t oppressed?

PoodankMcGee · 2025-01-16T17:08:55+00:00

I saw a website once with an entire compiled list you could point to, but I cant seem to find it again though.

The male-only draft

Longer prison sentences for the same crimes

Workplace accidents and deaths

All the shitty dirty dangerous jobs that are disproprtionately worked by men because women dont want them.

Suicide rates

Child custody

Lower life expectancy

The lack of domestic violence shelters that accept men.

You could go on and on but someone who is ideologically locked in to feminism will always contrive apologetics and excuses to blame men for our own victimization via muh patriarchy.

South-Steak-7810 · 2025-01-16T17:11:21+00:00

Say “prove it”.

There’s a long list of dumb things they usually say so prepare yourself with evidence to show them that what they’re claiming is incorrect. Go look at the subreddit’s where they usually hang out to spew vitriolic nonsense and to seek validation for their misandrists views. You’ll probably will find their main talking points there. And then do a deep dive.

TKD1989 · 2025-01-16T17:14:50+00:00

"Try living a day as a construction worker, military serviceman, fisherman, firefighter, farmer, lumberjack or policeman, then say it again"

SaltSpecialistSalt · 2025-01-16T17:36:10+00:00

women were never oppressed to begin with so it is a stupid question. the correct term to describe their experience is "sheltered". they were sheltered because they were too valuable for their higher importance in reproduction. of course being sheltered comes with consequences too so they were left behind in certain areas compared to men while enjoying more comfortable and less risky lifes

Roninizer · 2025-01-16T17:02:02+00:00

Like someone else said, do not engage with these people,they don't care and just argue in bad faith.

With that being said, simply switching the demographic works wonders at exposing their insane idealogy.

"Men have it easy/aren't oppressed."

"Even black men?"

Imissyourgirlfriend2 · 2025-01-16T17:30:50+00:00

Then why is the suicide rate in men 4x the suicide rate for women? Why is the homeless population almost all men?

Mister_3177 · 2025-01-16T17:00:37+00:00

Tell them “say that to the 95% of oil rig workers”

Fffgfggfffffff · 2025-01-16T17:03:36+00:00

Why aren’t they considering becoming a man / male and see it themselves!

Why aren’t they wearing men’s clothes ? Cut their hair ?

Spins13 · 2025-01-16T17:39:32+00:00

More boys die of circumcision than women of feminicide

63daddy · 2025-01-16T17:00:02+00:00

Slaves were oppressed. I think it’s ridiculous and insensitive to claim that any disadvantages men or women have experienced rise to such a level.

As for men being disadvantaged and discriminated against, it’s easy enough to rattle off a number of ways males are legally discriminated against as well as many double standards that disadvantage men.

Former_Range_1730 · 2025-01-16T17:24:59+00:00

The best response to no response, because the kinds of women who say that don't value rational discussion or debate. All they care about is you doing what they say, believing what they say, and if you don't, they want you to disappear one way or the other.

Instead, hang with women who like men. They don't tend to say these things.

meowwaifu_ · 2025-01-16T17:52:43+00:00

Men are overrepresented in dangerous jobs and have higher workplace deaths.

Men are more likely to be homeless and less likely to receive social support.

Family court systems mostly favor mothers in custody battles.

Men have higher rates of suicide and are less likely to seek mental health support due to stigma. Especially after sexual assault.

EaterOfCrab · 2025-01-16T16:46:37+00:00

Just agree and move on, if someone is generalizing the whole group of people based on experiences she's lacking then she's not the type of person you would want to converse with

NewMoonlightavenger · 2025-01-16T17:16:46+00:00

Laugh. Turn around. Walk away. Laugh again.

manicmonkeys · 2025-01-16T17:47:06+00:00

That's a dumb af generalization on their part, treating men as a monolith.

EriknotTaken · 2025-01-16T18:38:50+00:00

Best response ever:

"You are selecting a minority of hyper-succesfull men and using that to represent all of them"

ApXv · 2025-01-16T18:57:43+00:00

I'll take it up in the next man council

Born-Leadership4526 · 2025-01-16T23:08:16+00:00

Fully respond to them they won’t listen and it will just be more annoying because for every logical point you give they will just say misogyny they can’t argue there point ever

luckycobber · 2025-01-16T17:14:22+00:00

Men are more likely to experience parental alienation during a custody battle, even without probable cause.
Men are highly likely to commit suicide.
Men are more prone to work place injury and death, due to partaking in higher risk jobs.
Men are more likely to be victims of vexatious criminal allegations: DV, rape, sexual harassment.
The majority of homelessness shelters are for women.
There are no DV shelters for men (in Australia)
Men equally experience DV, however is under reported and investigated by authorities.
Men are more prone to mental health issues, such as depression.
There are quotas in the corporate world for the hiring of women (in Australia).

TenuousOgre · 2025-01-16T18:18:41+00:00

“Try it. Try it for six months. There have been a few women who have. All of them said men have it harder. One even wrote a book on her experiment.”

bulimic_squid · 2025-01-16T20:49:35+00:00

Don't engage with zealots. Turn your back and walk away from them. These people aren't worth the breath in your lungs.

Clockw0rk · 2025-01-16T21:24:11+00:00

It’s pretty easy.

Just respond “Okay, let’s count all of the fatalities in war by sex, and see who is overwhelmingly sent to likely die, or come back to a short lived bit of valor before the system forgets about their sacrifice and routinely dumps veterans suffering from battle related conditions to suffer and die, often homeless in the gutter. I wonder which “side” will win?”

Come on, ladies. The West actively refused the small number of female applicants that tried to enlist prior to sweeping reforms that didn’t even happen with the civil rights movement. Women were unconditionally protected from the horrors of war for hundreds of years in the US alone.

Men still have the potential to lose their right to vote or receive financial aid for college if they don’t sign up at 18 for compulsory military service, if war breaks out.

Even without things like socially acceptable/encouraged genital mutilation, higher suicide rates, less social support structures across the board AND shorter life expectancy, men very clearly have it worse. It’s no contest.

Anyone insisting women are oppressed and men aren’t, are either too stupid or willfully ignorant to carry on a meaningful conversation with.

tilldeathdoiparty · 2025-01-16T17:04:25+00:00

You just ignore those people because they clearly aren’t paying attention

leknerd · 2025-01-16T18:23:29+00:00

https://youtube.com/shorts/B0uzkd8n-MQ?si=hxFB_9nfe_EGdq63

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2025-01-16T18:42:37+00:00

Why don't you download a dating app and try it as a guy and try and get a date and see how easy it is.

And when she does do it and complains about the experience. Well every part of life is basically like that.

People only care about men when the bring value. Women have natural value. So there is much less pressure or demands on women over men. So your a losser if you don't prove your self at every turn. So tell me again how easy it is to be a men. But don't worry after 35-40 years women experience the men's version of life.

-taps shoulder- so yea you have that to look forward too

There are a document of a women that spends 10 months like a men. She made a book and like a few years later killed her self. She could not handle the mental strain of being a men so yea. Why men are less emotional if we are very emotional you basically can't be a men Just that simple.

Most women are so protected and so have all factors of life soften massively. But when women go in really men dominate places they want the men to change. Cause there much more rough much less nice and just saying how it is and women often don't like it when people say how it is and not just overly nice in fake cheerleader style of way which is so common among women. That they cheer on even when people doing the wrong thing or make big mistakes. Men just are not like that if you fuck up men call you out on your fuck up give you shit and keep going. Thats in work like that in games. With frends. There is much less fake or play pretending among male frends. Unlike females. So there lived experiences are very very different. What does change when womens youth fades. And thats the simple truth why womens pressure to find a man or mate is much higher on women then on men. Just different lived experiences only way you can make them see it by makeing them experience it. Like trying dating apps playing as a men's side of the lane. The only way to under stand a men is to walk a mile in a mens shows. And the only way to get a women is to try and walk in a women's shoes for a mile.

Only then do people gain respect and understanding for the other side. And thats not hate. Both both sides can be quite unrealistically when they think they have it only easy. They do but don't. The massive amount of men and fake frends of girls that in sexual way want to get in there pants or mostly just look at you for sex and a society that think sex means nothing is quite daunting especially for women and girls that missing a father figure what in many places is like half of girls. So I feel for them but if they can't show respect I don't have to show understanding even when I do know and understand there struggles but if they ignore mine why should I acknowledge there's at all.

Both get a shit sandwich. Men are Ying and women are yang. We are opposites so where men are strong women are weak where women are strong men are weak. How men and women bring balance in each others lives. But require investment and understanding and respect for each other. If one side lacks it then there is no need to acknowledge there's struggles if they so quick to push yours under the rug its just that easy.

People are not worthy of anything they not willing to give them self. That includes respect. Understanding. Love. Loyalty. And anything else. But thats my strong belief and what code i live by. And how i treat everyone based on. Treat everyone how i wish people to treat me but how people treat me il definitely treat them in kind.

llmethuselah · 2025-01-16T19:51:15+00:00

Ask them if they think Aboriginal Australians (or African Americans) are relatively more oppressed than white Australians (or Americans).

The answer is expected and you can agree with them.

Tell them you want to do a hypothetical and pretend you are not certain but you're a numbers guy and you need convincing. Ask them for five statistical measures that could be used to show that Aboriginal Australians are relatively more oppressed than white people.

Then ask them to use the same five measures to show that women are more oppressed than men.

Then stand back.

eternal_kvitka1817 · 2025-01-16T20:02:42+00:00

Forcible mobilization for men only in Ukraine. Conscription for men only in dozens countries

Wonderful_System5658 · 2025-01-16T20:21:30+00:00

Divorce laws. Men are usually cleaned out.

alter_furz · 2025-01-16T20:27:27+00:00

"Ask Norah Vincent"

2025-01-16T22:22:09+00:00

Laughs in Vietnam draft.

Real_Discussion1748 · 2025-01-17T06:26:01+00:00

Watch any movie that has action in it and pay attention to the characters on screen that aren't main characters, watch how many of them are killed and pay attention to how many of them are men.

This is how disposable men are.

Hillary Clinton asserted that Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.

And this woman was second in line to be president at one point.

Plus-Obligation-6162 · 2025-01-18T04:22:52+00:00

You can't. The whole ideology of the left is one of victimhood; a claim to power imbalance. Unfortunately, we've become too tolerant; too indulgent in the U.S.

The conversation has NEVER been about equality. It's about "selective equality." And the moment they have to put on a man's pack or pick up a jackhammer or climb a skyscraper or dig a hole for the family dog, they'll revert right back to a little "cute" face and say: "never mind."

When your house is on fire, nobody calls a feminist.

BuckandShilo · 2025-01-16T18:41:09+00:00

“F U, dumb ass” seems to be the appropriate response or C U next Tuesday.

BattlepassHate · 2025-01-16T18:06:34+00:00

Literally no point.

If they’re so entrenched in the victim complex that men have it so easy, nothing you say is going to change that.

It’s like Republicans and Democrats, neither of them will have any sort of constructive conversation with eachother because they’re too dead set on “every word I say is correct and every word they say is an evil lie”

jessi387 · 2025-01-16T21:16:41+00:00

Every measurable statistic

College_Bro95 · 2025-01-16T21:30:58+00:00

Just don't engage. If you are in that conversation, just show them Google.

Ozhubdownunder · 2025-01-16T21:33:51+00:00

Adults have it easy and are not oppressed could be claimed following this same logic.

Remote_Purpose_4323 · 2025-01-16T21:39:57+00:00

They will never get it, may be if they will give birth to a boy and then may be watching him grow she will understand, but even that is not a 100%. I knew a woman, who made 3 aborts, got knocked by a dude, she cheated all the time saying things like I am frigid with him, and she had no love in her heart for her child, she could just ignore him while he asked for food, because she watch to finish the book first. Can’t really believe women after her.

rbw223 · 2025-01-16T21:45:16+00:00

Oh bullshit!

hermeslagoon · 2025-01-17T00:03:58+00:00

A woman can lie about being raped and not go to jail for it, despite ruining an innocent man's life.

DecisionPlastic9740 · 2025-01-17T01:56:33+00:00

Apex fallacy

dirtyredsweater · 2025-01-17T02:02:58+00:00

Tell em to change their gender then

SketchyDeee · 2025-01-17T02:16:45+00:00

Listen to this queued up bit of this Jordan Peterson interview.

https://youtu.be/yZYQpge1W5s?t=295

habbo311 · 2025-01-17T02:21:07+00:00

Male suicide rate vs women

anroxxxx · 2025-01-17T02:27:59+00:00

The fact that we are loved only if we provide. Only women and children are loved unconditionally.

jexton80 · 2025-01-17T03:11:55+00:00

Would you respond to a racist?

Local-Willingness784 · 2025-01-17T03:25:39+00:00

no matter what statistics you cite, they will say that men did this to ourselves, somehow, happened on this same subreddit with a feminist lurking here, they just don't want to know.

mygirlisthebest · 2025-01-17T05:01:23+00:00

No, Don't say anything that favours men and has even the slightest of hint against women, you will be termed as harassing, abusive and will be suspended or banned from reddit. Coz the mods themselves are biased people so Its irrelevant to even have an opinion and discuss here.

Reasonable-Agent-278 · 2025-01-17T05:34:19+00:00

Find a picture of soldiers maimed in combat or worse . Show it to them.

Get statistics about who dies on the job . Show them the statistics.

Ask them if they would not mund working 60- 80 hours a week running a business.

Show them the suicide rate difference between men and women.

mrchadtoyouall · 2025-01-17T06:46:03+00:00

There is 107 men for every 100 women in the age range we care about for dating (18 to say 40).

This means that by definition 7 percent of men will die alone.

65 percent of all men 18 to 35 are single, with over 30 percent of males under thirty being virgins.

60 percent of men failed to reproduce over our history, while 80 percent of women succeeded. This means that two women mated successfully for every one man that did.

Men are put into a hyper competitive environment and told to be themselves. It's a fucking joke.

Comfortable_Change_6 · 2025-01-17T13:09:54+00:00

We aren’t oppressed because we choose not to be.

Not because the outside forces are any different from yours 😛

freezeemup · 2025-01-17T17:55:57+00:00

Tell them everyone is different and were all fighting different battles. You can acknowledge someone is going through a tough time without invalidating someone else's experience. Arguing too much will come off as defensive though.

UWontHearMeAnyway · 2025-01-17T18:16:39+00:00

I don't know if it's good or not. I just respond with:

"Are you open to evidence that you're wrong? Or you looking for sympathy for your perpetual victim mentality?"

EggNo2090 · 2025-01-17T23:27:20+00:00

Imagine you live in Ukraine. Would you rather be a woman or a man?

Rogue_bae · 2025-01-18T01:31:09+00:00

The fact that you have to ask this speaks VOLUMES

PuzzleheadedUse5769 · 2025-01-18T04:09:47+00:00

And people all assume men are safe at night but women aren’t. I’ve seen the statistics and men are about 80% chance of being murdered. Does that just not matter because we’re big and we can take it? When I was younger like 11-12 my mom would have me take out the trash at night alone in a dark ally and this is in a very dangerous neighborhood in North Indiana which has a bad drug problem. Mind you I am a small guy and at 11-12 I was about 5’0 85-90lbs I could’ve been killed or taken easily but no one cares. But when my sister had to take out the trash in broad daylight I had to go with her. It just seems no one gives a fuck and it very upsetting.

SnooSeagulls1709 · 2025-01-18T09:43:15+00:00

men are lonely

Nachtexpress · 2025-01-21T11:28:40+00:00

Let her look up the empathy gap empathygap.co.uk

Nerfixion · 2025-01-16T22:04:23+00:00

It's literally grass is greener, it's that simple.

X gets Y, I don't get Y, Y is better/easier

I believe each side has it perks but we all focus on our own negatives not the other.

Then you've got the society factor, like let's go to the draft, everyone brings up the draft. Men are the ones who made the rule, so why are y'all mad at women about it. The problem as I see it is, we keep trying to treat both sexes the same when that just isn't possible. Even if society changes rapidly, our biology doesn't, it still makes us act certain ways.

Title	What are good responses to women who say men have it easy / men aren’t oppressed?
Author	viper46282
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Date	January 16, 2025 4:42 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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