NoFap and TRP

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January 14, 2019
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I reached 30 days at NoFap and while it felt sort of great, I didn't really experience what all those guys at the subreddit are claiming to experience.

Yes, It made me see women as sexual preys, but I felt like NoFap made me a needy beta around women in the last few days. More than sexual desire, it was sexual thirst, which from what I'm concerned, is extremely unattractive and makes you outcome dependent.

I decided to do NoFap because I was addicted to porn and that was keeping me from approaching real women. It took me 1 year to get to 30 days so I guess I was addicted for real.

I relapsed today 100% on purpose (not to porn, just focusing on the sensation), I just couldn't focus on my shit without having boners or thinking about women every 2 seconds. Plus, since day 20+ I started losing frame and getting into beta thinking, thus beta behavior.

What's your experience with NoFap? I know some people are claiming that it's bullshit, but I believe that for porn addicts there's no other way.

Do you experience those "superpowers" in a span of even 7 days of abstaining from masturbation? Abstaining from it for an excessive period of time seems useless to me, unless you have no social life, no valuable hobbies and so on.


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Title NoFap and TRP
Author lifeisweirdasfuck
Upvotes 93
Comments 118
Date 14 January 2019 05:24 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/164788
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/afy18o/nofap_and_trp/
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[–]2319Skew113 points114 points  (2 children) | Copy

Wait until you hit the 90 day mark. That's when I discovered I can levitate and move objects with my mind.

[–]Jackerlo3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seriously?

[–]_do_not_read_this_3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is interesting. I stopped 12/2 and by day 7 I was calling ex girlfriends just to get my nut off, the drive was so much. My drive is crazy now, my stamina through the roof.

I've also been supplementing with vitamins, maca, and of course at my age, cialis.

But I'm doing things I've never done before, like #ing three times a day (not to orgasm but still ...).

If I'm at this stage now, I can't wait for 90 days.

I actually had to jank it today and a few weeks ago for a semen sample for my vasectomy and I'll be honest, it didn't even feel all that good.

[–]realityisperception4141 points142 points  (7 children) | Copy

The power of nofap is getting you off porn. No problem with busting a nut at the end of the day if you’re not getting laid. Just keep it natural.

[–]Flintblood14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. Porn addiction is supported by peer reviewed literature and shown to be harmful in multiple ways. The feeling and benefits of ‘no fap’ are mostly attributable to ending the dopamine robbery effect of porn.

However, masturbation can still be a problem if it’s compulsive and too frequent. Aim for maybe 1 maintenance (prostate control) nut every 2 weeks at most IF you’re not sexually active with a HB.

It’s the addiction - not the act itself. Going no fap breaks the addiction

[–]aanarchist9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

By natural you mean not getting off to women lick their vomit off the floor?

[–]PaulHarden12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy

It takes longer to break through to the other side and not be a sex crazed maniac.

I'm at over 1300 days and it's the best choice I've ever made.

[–]peacemakerzzz2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Ang notable differences?

[–]PaulHarden0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Most notably, an extreme decrease in anxiety in all situations.

[–]eccentricrealist-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes his robes have turned from grey to white

[–]broek_325 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Nofap is a load of bullshit. If you’re a porn addict with a broken dick, sort yourself out.

If you’re a normal guy who watches porn every once in a while, you won’t unlock some supernatural powers or become an alpha by abstaining from it.

[–]1984Survivor25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

"a load" i see watcha did there

[–]UshankaDalek5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you have a problem with porn and masturbation, then NoFap is important. If you don't, it's probably not. I personally had an unhealthy addiction to porn since my teenage years. NoFap helped me regain control of my life and to stop putting pussy on a pedestal.

I'm sure this isn't true for everyone, just as there are some people who can drink or gamble in moderation and some who can't.

[–]BigNog_42 points43 points  (14 children) | Copy

For me, it's complicated. Tomorrow, will be my 6 month anniversary of quitting porn. I quit watching it half a year ago. It's sorta crazy. But, I'm still somewhat new to nofap. I have reached a 7 day streak three times but that's the farthest I have gotten. When I do relapse, it's always to just my imagination. I use no sexual stimulus (porn, ig models, pics). I'm currently on a 3 day streak. I noticed I had way more energy. Specifically in the gym, I was able to push a lot more reps. I found it easier to look people in the eyes. That applies to guys and girls. I only had two female attraction instances. On a 7 day streak a hot girl turned the corner, looked at me in the eyes for a second or two, and smiled at me. Could be she was attracted, could be bullshit and she was being nice. IDK. Then, a milf that works at my gym that I talk to came up to me in between sets and said she liked my haircut and that it looks good. Those are the only things that happened to me with girls.

The main reason I'm trying to do nofap is because I'm terrified of women. Especially the one's I am attracted to. I'm just fucking scared. I feel like I'm gonna die. Every guy one here fucks tons of chicks easily and I;m sorta just lurking trying to learn their secrets. It's not getting any easier. I know I just have to do it and approach more but its really hard. Someone made a comment on a post yesterday about the benefits of lifting weights. He said, if you can squat a heavy ass weight (I'm at 205lbs now) what's scary about talking to girls? I wish that were true for me. I have been lifting for 2+ years and I still can't fucking do it. I probably never will. I just hope if I stick with nofap that my confidence will rise and I'll be able to talk to girls easier. Sorry that this was an emotional beta bitching victim post but that's how I fucking feel. I'm not like you guys. I understand TRP and I read about it all the fucking time. But I can't put it into practice. I'm still the nervous, shy, nice guy.

[–]heres_johnnie40 points41 points  (2 children) | Copy

It sounds like you’ve put so much pressure on yourself to talk to women that you’ve become your own worst enemy.

You’ll only learn that rejection can actually be a good thing once you begin to experience it. I say this because you’ll learn so much about social dynamics (from being rejected) which will help you out in so many aspects other than just seduction. Work, friendships and so on. Each occasion I approach and get rejected, majority of the time I can look back and see what I did wrong. Learn from that. Chances are if she rejected you then she probably wasn’t even “suitable” in any case. It’s really only the off chance that women are complete bitches if you approach them. Ironically, I tend to enjoy those conversations the most because you challenge yourself to break down her defence and end up laughing it off afterwards.

If going into the deep end is too daunting for you, then as a practice, start a conversation by asking her something extremely neutral (e.g. for directions). This will show you that she’s not as intimidating as you thought and will build up confidence for the next time you want to approach.

Last point; don’t try overcompensate in other areas of your life. This won’t help your mental frame. You should max out your squat for you. Not because you think it will help you with women. Build your life around yourself and take the pressure of having to get laid off the pedestal. Don’t be overly emotionally invested.

[–]Yog-Nigurath6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Solid advice.

[–]lalaeticia16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy

Every guy one here fucks tons of chicks easily and I;m sorta just lurking trying to learn their secrets..

Maybe 1% of the subscribers, but 99% is in an everlasting loop of never swallowing the pill. Don’t beat yourself up about it (no pun intended).

[–]BigNog_1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I know. I just have ocd and a terrible habit of putting too much pressure on myself. I'm reading the book The Subtle Art Of Not Giving A Fuck. I'm 60 pages in. I'm just really angry. I'm extremely frustrated. There's a girl at my gym that I like and I can't fucking say three words to her. I just fucking can't do it.

[–]Benson87991 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Doe she speak a different language or....?

[–]TheRoastArt4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have experienced the same 7 day symptoms as well as others so it must be common to start attracting around that mark, and hang in there you’ll get it. You’re not a bitch you’re human. You just need to fail. That’s how you learn.

[–]17Loco2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was in a great state 4 years ago. From there I can give you my 2 pennies.

Porn objectives women to the extreme, and when you approaching them in real life it messes your neurones. So, you immediately connect women to sex, hence the fear of intimacy. If you abstain from fapping you build new neurones connections for dopamine which do not have spikes in your system. Therefore you’re more relaxed and at easy with yourself. Continue the discipline it will pay off

[–]CheesyStravinsky-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you don't masturbate regularly, and you aren't having sex...you are significantly increasing your risk of getting prostate cancer with this nonsense.

Is adhering to this cult worth dying early?

As someone who had to go through having leukemia, I'll tell you that having cancer is fucking horrendous.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

read the sidebar and lurk more.

Stay the fuck away from the freaks over at /nofap. They have zero to offer.

Get a damn hobby dude, some way to build confidence.

Protip: simply being able to keep your hands off your dick for more than 15 minutes is not worth a medal. No, it is not a sign of self-control.

It is a sign of NOT having SERIOUS personality disorder. 99.9% of people have zero use for such cult-like, belief based bullshit.

[–]YoungLilMadaraUchiha3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nofap actually tries to prevent people from becoming porn addicted beta cucks but go off

[–]jlife1826 points27 points  (22 children) | Copy

Honestly stop porn forever but try to get actual sex. It is good however to limit the frequency of ejaculations just to give your body a break sometimes.

[–]CheesyStravinsky3 points4 points  (16 children) | Copy

This isn't true at all. Scientific evidence tells us that ejaculating MORE frequently lowers risk of prostate cancer.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/reduced-risk-prostate-cancer-with-regular-ejaculation-2328515

[–]GeuseyBetel8 points9 points  (13 children) | Copy

There's more than just "preventing prostate cancer" at play. Abstaining from ejaculation has mental effects.

Many professional athletes will do it before a competition. A name that immediately comes to mind is Mohammad Ali, who claimed it gave him focus.

In my personal experience, I can 100% attest that taking a couple weeks off of masturbating gives me the energy & motivation to get out of the occasional slump - but everyone's different.

[–]11-Eleven-111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Was .05% now is .04%

gg

[–]Splucer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That’s bullshit

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-5 points-4 points  (4 children) | Copy

It is good however to limit the frequency of ejaculations just to give your body a break sometimes.

There is zero science to back this up. In fact, quite the opposite.

Ok, if you're doing nothing else all day, you have bigger problems than any reddit sub can help with.

In either case, it has zero to do with TRP, and belongs over at that freak palace /nofap. Not here.

[–]jlife184 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm going off of personal anecdotal experience and many accounts of people over the world. Honestly you can't tell me shit about the feeling of lethargy of ejaculating too much. Ejaculating too often does take a toll on your body because you are using aot of resources every time it happens.

[–]CheesyStravinsky-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

You might want to consider listening to scientific experts about health and wellness, rather than random anecdotes and fantasies of your own mind. This might apply in all areas of your life honestly, you will see an improvement in your results of nearly everything you work on.

[–]weekndfan 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

How about the scientific students that say frequent masturbation causes prostate cancer in young men?

https://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20090127/masturbation-and-prostate-cancer-risk

[–]CheesyStravinsky1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did you read your own link?...

They suggest that young men genetically predisposed to have hormone-sensitive prostate cancer will be at higher risk if their bodies naturally produce high levels of male hormones -- the same hormones that give them an intense sex drive.

So it's not masturbation itself that's increasing prostate cancer risk in young men. More masturbation may just mean more sex drive -- and more androgens bathing prostate tissues.

And the conclusion:

"It is kind of logical that a moderate level of masturbatory activity has to be maintained," she says. "Not too much, and not none at all."

So they still find that this NoFap cult isn't good for your health.

I'm not advocating that you should masturbate furiously multiple times a day, or even every day, but all available medical evidence pretty clearly concludes that NEVER masturbating is detrimental to male health.

[–]itsfedge5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Law 36: Disdain things you cannot have, Ignoring them is the best revenge

“Desire Often Creates Paradoxical Effects: The more you want something, the more you chase after it, the more it eludes you. The more interest you show, the more you repel the object of your desire. This is because your interest is too strong—it makes people awkward, even fearful. Uncontrollable desire makes you seem weak, unworthy, pathetic.· You need to turn your back on what you want, show your contempt and disdain. This is the kind of powerful response that will drive your targets crazy. They will respond with a desire of their own, which is simply to have an effect on you—perhaps to possess you, perhaps to hurt you. If they want to possess you, you have successfully completed the first step of seduction. If they want to hurt you, you have unsettled them and made them play by your rules· If choosing to ignore enhances your power, it follows that the opposite approach—commitment and engagement—often weakens you. By paying undue attention to a puny enemy, you look puny, and the longer it takes you to crush such an enemy, the larger the enemy seems.”

[–]NuclearMelonMan4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have a long history with NoFap, but being on it made me think more about girls and porn than when I was off it. I’ve now gotten to the point where I’ll jerk off whenever, but I’ll never watch porn. NoPo if you will, seems to be working a lot for me. I don’t feel like an awkward pervert or a horny beta. Truly a happy medium that I wish I’d thought of before.

[–]i_like_herr3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Idk why I started nofap but I realized it really gave me an extra edge in the gym. Maybe it's placebo but Idc as long as it is giving you some benefit

[–]TFromThaSix1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It does help, not an out of this world difference but a positive difference nonetheless

[–]Loze112 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

My first streak was about 220 days to see how it'll be. I purposely relapsed to see if it was all placebo. I noticed a drop in my energy levels and I really had no desire to pursue women. A few times a week and I'm good.

Started nofap again late last year, up to about 150 days by now. I get urges but not as bad. Wet dreams happen a few times a month. The urges on the other hand have died down a lot. I guess it's about channeling that energy elsewhere. If you focus on the feeling, it'll intensify. I busy myself with something else to get my mind off it.

Still, I don't feel like perusing women. Their standards are too high and you can never please them. I'll fuck them, yes but I rather pay an escort. Why? I know the price I'm paying up-front.

[–]VojvodaSrpski4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

Nofap if you're addicted to porn, otherwise just practice semen retention. Eastern medicine was familiar with the benefits of SR thousands of years ago.

[–]celincelin-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

Aha, eastern medicine had cured porn addiction thousands of years before porn. That’s how ahead of its time it was.

[–]VojvodaSrpski2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Holy fuck can you even read? I said semen retention that has many benefits for men, not curing porn addiction lmao.

[–]celincelin0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Most of ancient science is bullshit, including semen retention, drinking your own mucus and bloodletting.

Although, judging by your nickname, you must be anti-American, therefore anti-West, therefore anti-evil-Jewish-"Big Pharma"-whatever--what else do you have to stick to except some outdated mythology, indeed.

[–]VojvodaSrpski2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

You’re obviously coming from a place of ignorance, confusing medieval ”medicine” with ancient Chinese teachings.

I'm most certainly not anti-American, I love real American values of liberty and individualism (classical liberalism/libertarianism) and I'm a huge Trump supporter. But you're the idiot if you equal America with globalist (communist) crap such as big pharma and big government supported corporations that want the free market to fail.

Keep living ignorantly in this modern world of ideologically motivated ”science” that changes whenever those that are in charge want it to change, or get in touch with yourself like a real living and breathing man, not some drone plugged into the system.

[–]celincelin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm merely putting different kinds of bullshit together since it's all bullshit; fear not, I know those comical "methods" come from different, although similarly confused sources.

I of course will keep living this long, healthy life thanks to vaccination and modern dentistry, enjoying my magical ability to talk to others like they're in the same room thanks to the Internet--and that's barely scratching the tip of the iceberg of what ideologically motivated ”science” has brought and will have brought to me.

[–]TheRoastArt9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

Funny you should mention because just yesterday i was curious about what a No Fap + RedPill crossover would look like. some sort of godlike alpha male one would imagine.

I’m on no fap whilst studying a few redpill guidelines so I’m on self improvement 100%.

I’m on my 2nd attempt at day 6 of no PMO (porn masturbation orgasm). My first attempt lasted 8 days. And I’ve noticed I’m experiencing the same symptoms around the same time.

No fap is about turning the energy directed at PMO into other activities and I can vouch for its auspiciousness

No fap is not for everyone, it’s not just for addicts and everyone progresses differently. So for me personally heres what’s changed:

• I sleep at earlier hours because for some odd reason no fap cured my insomnia.

• Doing away with my “hungry state” I did attract a particular co worker was asked out by a gay man, and an old flame reached out (last one was anecdotal but still uncanny)

• I had very moderate social anxiety which has minimized as the streak progresses.

• Focused more on my creative aspirations which has definitely paid off as I’m advancing.

•Energy increases. No longer need redbull for work

Provided, all of these things can happen and can be done without no fap, however, this was something I needed to do for myself because I didn’t like how much sex was involved in my life. I spent too much time trying to find the right porn video

So It is essentially a brain rewiring much like the redpill community. Yes, the “superpowers” are very real. Things do miraculously change.

[–]PM_ME_SOME_NATURE2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I did the same thing you did except I went for about 45 days. I think a lot of people on that sub are delusional in thinking that not touching your dick suddenly makes you more attractive or fixes all the problems in your life.

I had a similar experience to you, the only thing that really happened was I really THIRSTY all the time. Any girl looked attractive to me, and I wanted to fuck everything in sight.

I found it made my mind foggier and it was difficult to focus on things without my mind wandering to women.

Long story short, I unsubscribed from the sub and busting a nut every couple days keeps my mind calm and focused on my goals.

[–]snowie422 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, I 'll have a different approach to this. Last Saturday, I was at a club and this girl took me to her home. everything is going nice. Prior to this, I only had sex twice way before and on those occasions, I came real fucking quick. So, I am already a bit anxious about it but I don't mind it much. Well, we get to the bed, and after a nice foreplay, there is not a fucking movement on my dick. I supposed that was caused by the alcohol use I did earlier. So, I left the sex for the morning. But when the morning comes still no action. Luckily she was nice enough and didn't really said anything about it. So, I started checking why it could be caused and I figure maybe how my brain wired sex with porn. Mind you this was the hottest girl I have ever been close with, Naked in the bed. After thinking about it, I thought maybe I couldn't get hard because my brain doesn't know this as sex. I don't see the girl with a full body shot, or seeing that pussy really, its dark. These are completely different from porn. I read some people's similar stories on here. So, I 'll give that a try. I won't stop masturbating but instead, I will use my imagination and the feeling of my hand. Hopefully, that will start to fix something.

[–]Appex12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was in the same boat as you, where porn basically ruined my life and made me the biggest loser ever. Then I believed in those superpowers and wanted to try it for myself. It did fix all the problems that porn gave me, but complete abstinence also made me very needy, and I felt like NoFap blocked the natural flow of energy. It's NoPorn, and allow yourself to have a release once in a while.

[–]AuberyBitoni2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I tried it out myself because I didn't believe the sub. Made it to 65 days and I felt the exact same way like you did. I had boners all day long, kept thinking about sex etc...

I started NoFap because of ED. I watched too much porn when I was younger and it fucked me up. Combine that with deathgrip and it's barely impossible to keep a hard on with a girl.

So yeah.. I've tried it out. I think the sub is a joke. It's full of incells who try to justify their shitty life by abstaining from Porn and think it will give them superpowers. NoFap is a joke. NoPorn is way better. Just quit porn and fap once every 7-10 days or so.

My rule is: Fap every 7-10 days, depends if I'm horny if I'm single. If I have a LTR, I never fap.

[–]MorpheusSwag5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Guys on here arent successful lolol dont worry

[–]weekndfan 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy

Your loses after 20+ days can be a result of your brain reprogramming from PMO which causes a flatline and can make you depressed.

You need meditation to channel the built up energy from NoFap.

[–]1rad_dynamic4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Placebo mostly. Also, just masturbate once a week or something. You get the best of both worlds then. You are horny and want to chase women, but you aren't so horny that you want to fuck so bad it becomes detrimental to your game.

[–]lbrownlbandit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah honestly it was probably your body yearning for some comfort. That might be something you should work on, try developing better relationships with family. This is probably the easiest to do as you can just ask them to join you in a mutual activity like chess or some shit or just join them in whatever they are doing. This way you can help them do what they need done and you get some comfort from the human interaction. Use this to build your character and to learn how to build connections with people, then when you think you are good enough take the leap of faith and try it with randoms.

It's tough staying in control all the time use your family as a pit stop of sorts to build yourself up when ever you are down. Just make sure they dont be little you or put you down if they do comment on this and I'll explain what you can do to overcome that

[–]zeekt121 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I feel the opposite. I naturally gain an abundance mentality when on a nofap streak. Solely from the motivation, extra energy, and drive derived from nofap, i feel content with my life in almost any situation and it makes my frame unbreakable. Ultimately, from being in a more conscious state from being on nofap, it makes it pretty easy to not come off as desperate when youre horny af and talking to a girl.

I 100% believe in the power of nofap, but i find some times it can be counterproductive as my libido takes a hit.

But as many say here, the main thing is to not watch porn or edge; semen retention is just a bonus.

Otherwise, i feel the best mentally and physically when retaining, both dopamine and semen.

[–]UnPawsed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Tell me about your libido taking a hit. I decided to start a streak 6 months ago and lost my sex drive completely. I still hardly have a sex drive 6 months later.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What do you mean when you say “you lost frame”. Please explain.

[–]Neil13981 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Before I knew about trp I knew about nofap. I tried to go on long streaks but I always winded up losing out. That caused me to be in despair for the next couple of days until I got a good streak up again.

Here’s the thing I did feel the “superpowers”. I started to become more talkative, felt more in tune with things in the world, girls were more attractive. I felt I needed to be on this journey to experience all of this.

Then I found out the truth about a year ago when I went back to martial arts after 12 years. The truth is that was the only thing I was accomplishing in my life by going on these streaks. So then I decided to add more hobbies and put my attention on those rather than rubbing one out. I started to see that it doesn’t matter whether you jack off or watch porn. It’s how productive you are.

I think if you can’t live without it than yeah give it a shot because you shouldn’t be looking at that shit everyday like I was as a teen. However don’t let it run your life. I personally try to stay away from porn but masturbation nah I’m good. If I’m feeling it I’m not gonna just sit in it and say I’ll lose my superpowers because I know that the superpowers come from doing things and being active.

I will say that porn does desensitize so that’s why I avoid that as much as possible.

Even rollo says it’s a buffer and I’m trying to see reality as much as I can

[–]midas441 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is more of a self-discipline thing for most people. A lot of those guys are addicted to porn and fapping like 4-5 times a day or to the point where it hinders their every day endeavors.

[–]Socrates-30001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I lost my virginity because of nofap.

[–]Ohboohoolittlegirl6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

NoFap is nonsense. You should be happy it got you off porn. Nothing wrong with cranking it to imagination and more satisfying if you ask me. All these superhuman energy boosts and meditation.. I guess it works for some. I'd rather eat well, work out and pursue my hobbies and jerk it, then be obsessed with my attractions, my horniness and resisting 'the urge'.. It makes no sense to me.

Also as you can see in the comments there are enough guys not getting any or little. It's easy to pretend to know or do a lot on the internet.

As for being scared, I guess you should address the fear instead of trying ways around it to fix the symptoms, such as NoFap. Are you scared of women's behavior or the fear of rejection?

[–]lifeisweirdasfuck[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great points. I'm not scared of women, but of failure/rejection, as you mentioned. Or maybe I'm scared of how others view me when I approach and get rejected. Or both. I know it stems from a wrong frame of mind. Still trying to internalise that I'm the prize to be won and that my value is higher (it actually is higher as I've been lifting for years and I do shit that average guys don't do) than most women and guys out there. Even tried self-hypnosis but I guess it takes time to change one's mindset. I want to reach the point where I truly feel superior, in an emotional state.

[–]xsealand211 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

No fap has helped me a lot ,I do it to improve myself rather than to help me with women.

1) After no fap I have started sleeping early and waking up early(needed atleast 8 hours of sleep plus atleast a small 1 hour nap in the afternoon to focus on work ,now I only sleep 6 to 7 hours despite working more). 2)I didn't suffer from depression earlier but after no fap I just feel a lot happier.I enjoy my own company ,I don't need a friend to go out with,I do what I want to do rather than be part of the group and do what they want to do. 3)Have started eating healthy and working out more. 4)Become more confident and bold ,hasn't got me laid yet but I am pretty sure it definitely will. 5)I have become more productive ,have started substituting my time of gaming and being on social media with reading books about invesment ,reading redpill sidebar, meditating,have also started watching motivational videos rather than pranks channel and other stuff that waste time on YouTube. 6)improved focus.Now I can read a book or a watch a YouTube video without being distracted easily.

I think you will start getting the benefits once you start doing it to improve yourself rather than helping you get laid.

[–]17Loco2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great job. Keep the discipline

A piece of advice. If you get a shag don’t develop oneitis since it’s your hard earned candy, you will want to keep it. Start spinning plates

[–]chadchadovsky3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

NoFap takes some mastery, I took me a few tries before I learned to 100% block sexual thoughts the second they arise(except when with a girl) because after you get hard and ready it's usually too late to turn back.

The scientific literature on this is weak but I experienced positive benefits that are almost 100% not "placebo". Around day 20 I wasn't even thinking about (no)fapping anymore, I just went out and without thinking talked to a bunch of strangers. I had a REAL smile on my face and even got opened by a MILF neighbor. I NEVER did this before, not even close. And I only registered the weirdness of what happened few hours after.

Combining NoFap with other "suffering" (resetting dopamine sensitivity) will make you feel like a god. Cold showers, some food deprivation, sleeping on the floor, no computer/phone, all day meditation, and exercise... After a few days of this behavior, you start to see life differently.

I remember going to a grocery store in the morning after a few days of hardcore suffering and seeing the sunrise over the nearby hills when I was in the elevator. I had to go back and just see it again, it made me so happy.

Not saying this is for everyone, some people function perfectly fine fapping 5x per day, others might further fuck up their social anxiety and develop wired fetishes. If it didn't do much for you after a month, just drop it.

[–]TheStumblingWolf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

For me nofap is stupid, but not watching porn does wonderful things.

[–]Life_Guard901 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I tried nofap for 2 weeks and I noticed that my nuts started to hurt. Like, really hurt. At first I thought that I might have twisted one of my balls or something, but I soon figured out what was wrong after I "relapsed". After that release my balls felt so much better. Cured the pain instantly.

[–]friendswithcocaine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You blue balled yourself for 2 weeks

[–]IronFist460 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I started NoFap one week ago and it has saved my life. Because of NoFap, I became taller, it cured cancer, I became a millionaire,....

Okay I'll stop. For real tho, NoFap isn't some kind of supernatural thing, it's just a good habit for porn addicts but that's about it.

[–]BusterVadge1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nofap is bullshit.

Whack off if you like to... Just don't overdo it, and don't start watching more and more extreme porn. If you're in your closet whacking it to transexual hippopotamus porn, you have gone too far.

I recommend not using porn at all, just use your imagination

[–]Hsnbrg5010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

While I have a gf and can have sex whenever, I prefer to do it once every 2-3 days, as I notice that my energy levels are much higher when I don't get off, and I am much more creative and determined to accomplish goals. Sometimes I'll even tell her to wait a little while so I can get some shit done first.

[–]heroicart0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well for me after day 7 I usually feel really confident and my social awkwardness disappears as well and I talk more confidently and feel relaxed but like you said in your post some people have different experiences with no pmo and it depends on that purpose.from what I read on semen retention.semen is the root of everything that makes a man what he is and what he does.

[–]TheUnsteadyDonut0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I reached my first day of NoFap exactly today. So far so good

[–]dtyler860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Reading about all y’all no fapping is making the 24 hours since I last got laid feel like an eternity

[–]_do_not_read_this_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's not no-fap, it's you and your frame.

Work on frame. Lift. Build or destroy something. Have a purpose.

The basics.

Don't rely on others' reports about no-fap, every body is different.

[–]awalt_cupcake0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I found that once a week masturbating is my optimal if I'm not getting any. There's some science tabloids that suggest after the 7th day you get a testosterone spike but then it crashes even lower afterwards.

I set up an experiment trying a week, 2 weeks, 3, a month, 2 months. I found that by day 1 I may or may not be horny. Sleepy and had a hard time waking up. Day 2 I could literally fuck a wall if it was looking at me the right way. Day 3 was easier and I was waking up early on my own. After a week I had a zen like calm, laser focus, and I was waking up punctually at 5 am. No gains any time after that including the month and 2 months time.

[–]aanarchist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly you sound like you just have low self control and don't know how to deal with your emotions. It's not about getting rid of your libido, it's about self control and being able to experience an emotion or impulse without letting it control you. The purpose for someone like you with the nofap is learning how to have that feeling of horniness and not letting it rule you. that is what stoicism is, not getting rid of the emotions and being emotionless but rather being able to experience an emotion and letting it pass through you without having a significant response to it, possibly to your detriment.

[–]pridebrah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nofap always breaks my dick/sex drive after about 6 days and it takes about another week to get back to normal. Shit is awful.

It's great if you're seeing a girl(s) often and getting it in frequently though. You'll be the horniest motherfucker alive ready to bang after just a couple days.

[–]drnaline0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

90 days for a start. It makes you calm, and ambitious.

Side effects = fap

[–]Jackerlo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can you smoke while on nofap or it defeats the purpose?

[–]gbnz870 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's really difficult to know what is broscience or not with no fap.

I've been doing a weekly fap for a few months now and I think you get most of the benefits. Anything longer than a fortnight as you say I don't tend to feel as hungry for women. Which supposedly your testosterone levels peak after a weak of abstaining so it makes sense (this could be broscience though)

Realistically as long as you aren't fapping before you go out to meet women or you aren't fapping half a dozen times a day you should be fine

I think everyone should at least try it and see if you like the results. It's definitely improved my desire to meet women on the weekend and has got me more willing to get out my comfort zone so I will keep doing it for the foreseeable future.

[–]Sad_Sleeper0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

While i was a virgin i managed to go for 260 days. Well yeah it was hard, but this changed my wiring. I wasn't even able to hold eye contact. After that i had my first date and there i managed to go for the kiss without even having hasitations.

I relapsed, but the blueprint was already changed, I knew that i can be direct and talk all sorts of bullshit. And showing my intentions is the most important thing.

After that had my first lay, and my first GF, she fucked me up but it was for good. I found the Redpill and i have been in the best shape of my life. Still a long way to go, but the first step has been made.

The superpowers are total bullshit. You get superpowers from lifting every day.

Just try to jerk off on some nice girl that you want to bang.

[–]revaforce0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

I just think fapping is childish and basically what boys do, I think by abstaining or being able to abstain and focus on what you’re biologically driven by (real women), you’ll become more of a man and just feel better overall rather than busting nuts on yourself.

[–]tallwheel1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I just think fapping is childish and basically what boys do

There's your problem right there. The fact that you associate fapping with immaturity is the only thing that is making you feel bad about doing it. As many of the reasonable posters here are saying, fapping once a week or so and cutting down or eliminating porn is a pretty healthy compromise for most guys.

[–]revaforce0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I don’t have a problem, I don’t feel bad about it, it just makes me feel less mature

[–]tallwheel0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Look dude, I really don't want to put you down or make fun of you here or anything, but in my honest opinion, what you just wrote is self-contradictory. If you didn't have any psychological hang-ups about masturbation, then it wouldn't make you feel less mature.

Masturbation doesn't make me feel less mature. To me it's just something that pretty much every male past puberty does... and that of course includes grown men. That's probably why I never had any trouble working out, approaching, or spinning plates while masturbating every few days. Masturbation doesn't make me feel any less mature or secure about myself.

[–]revaforce0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Ok, well everybody’s different

[–]tallwheel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nah. Psychological issues are issues, and you're better off addressing them. You may not want my advice, but if I were you I'd try to eliminate the problem at the root rather than merely trying to avoid the symptom. In your case, the fact that you see masturbation as immature is the root. The feelings of immaturity and inadequacy you feel after masturbation itself is the symptom.

And, to clarify, I know that the way you feel about masturbation is not uncommon at all. In fact, it may be the way the majority of men feel, and men like me the minority. It seems pretty standard for men to associate masturbation with feelings of being dirty, pathetic, or undesirable. All I know is that when I was young I wasn't religious, and my parents outright told me that masturbation is perfectly normal and healthy, and I guess as a result I never much got that feeling of patheticness or immaturity after masturbating.

[–]SwoleyMoleyFrijoley0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Been doing NoFap for 5 years. I either fuck or don't nut at all. If you stick with it you reap the benefits. 30 days and an intentional jerk off session isn't going make you feel any different. You increase testosterone after 7 days and then it levels out, however, androgen receptors continue to grow, making the test you do have more effective. YMMV but after I went for over 100 days, I met my LTR and I haven't gone two days without getting laid. She loves my natural scent with no deodorant, seems to get intoxicated by it, lifts have gone up, hair is thicker, etc. I'm no beta by any means but it made me way more masculine overall. Good luck out there.

[–]_do_not_read_this_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seriously I noticed my chest hair getting thicker and even on my head!

I'm also taking lots of vitamins/supplements, I figured it was one of them.

Too funny.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Stop listening to that bullshit and go wank off.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with porn.

You can watch porn and still be a virile confident dude.

frankly I would rather jack off sometimes than put effort into dancing in circles around a cunt.

Do whatever the fuck you want. The point is to do it with confidence and own it.

[–]thewobblywelder-5 points-4 points  (1 child) | Copy

NoFap is just another feminist attempt at man shaming.

[–]dtyler864 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dafuq.. no fap definitely (in short spurts) makes me feel hornier, harder boners, bigger loads; jerking off to porn is the dietary equivalent of eating dessert first and wondering why vegetables are growing less interesting. Keep your hunger going and you’ll hunt more intensely and effectively

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

no, there is no nofap AND TRP...

There is nothing TRP has to offer that can deal with such massive personality disorders.

In fact, if you are such a freak you can't keep your hands off your dick more than 15 minutes, no psudoscience bullshit sub like /nofap is going to help you either.

Seek professional help.

For the VAST majority of people, there is no problem with masturbation. 99.9% of the population has zero benefit from the /nofap cult nonsense.

Doesn't belong here. Keep it over there.

[–]lifeisweirdasfuck[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yo chill. NoFap is 99% about abstaining from porn. There's enough science on the internet that claims how dangerous porn is for your mind. You can't tell me porn is harmless, cause it's clearly not. What is harmless is normal masturbation, in my opinion. I don't understand guys who want to reach 90 days neither. I tried 30 days and decided to end it here cause I was not seeing much benefits, but at least I gave up porn.



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