What extent would you go to improve your looks smv?

femalesaint · 2020-09-15T17:52:52+00:00

Too much plastic surgery, botched jobs and looking inhuman aside, doesn’t lower your SMV to most men but can lower your MMV to a lot of men. No man cares that it costs $500 every six months to keep your face looking the way it does when they see you at a bar, but it may cross their mind if they’re considering a life with you. A guy who you meet at an office party who thinks you’re hot doesn’t care if your Brazilian buttlift has a high chance of going septic or popping in ten years, but a guy planning to marry you will.

Since my focus is on my LTR, not on getting laid, I mostly focus on keeping my looks rather than fixing them. Good skincare, healthy diet and exercise, that kind of thing. I do plan to get a breast reduction, but that’s mostly because I have a very active lifestyle between multiple physical hobbies and they get in the way. I may consider lip injections because my lips are something I personally don’t like, but attracting new men is not on my radar and I doubt my man would notice a the difference a half a syringe of filler would make.

I’m going to be honest; if your goal is purely SMV, you can get it on with just about any man with a working you-know-what if you can be charismatic enough for the hour or so it takes. You don’t have to put a dime into your appearance if that’s all you care about.

However, if your goal is to attract a man via your SMV then use your MMV to keep him, you’re going to be much better off if you spend your time and energy increasing your MMV instead. Of course it’s important to take care of yourself like I mentioned above, and if your heart is 100% in breast fat transfer then I say go for it. But, looks will eventually fade no matter how much effort you put into them. Kindness, gentleness, patience, intelligence, education, empathy, a level head, knowing how to make and keep a budget, knowing how to cook healthy and yummy meals, knowing how to make a house a home, and knowing other skills that are useful in life will never fade.

Jiatingzhufu · 2020-09-15T18:25:35+00:00

Honestly, my limit is surgery. God has given me this one body + face and I feel no need to change it to fit ‘trends’ that are constantly changing. Of course I wouldn’t judge a woman that does, it’s all personal choice, but for me I really just don’t feel a need to

MirriMazDuur · 2020-09-15T19:08:26+00:00

In the bubble I live in I am surrounded by women who get surgery, lip fillers, hair extensions, eyelash extensions and acrylic nails. It pains me to say this, but 80% of them looked better before them.

yungsweetro · 2020-09-15T18:55:50+00:00

I wouldn't do surgery.

Except maybe dental surgery. My teeth are all messed up and I'm very self-conscious of them. If i had the money, I'd get caps or something.

Also, a lot of times women end up looking worse after plastic surgery. Like Tana Mongeau. I was trying to figure out how old she was the other day. With those big real-housewives looking lips, she looks like a divorced single mother trying to get her groove back. I thought she was older than me (I'm in my thirties). Nope, lady is 22. If the plastic surgery is obvious, I think people will assume a woman is older, because what 22-year-old goes and gets work done?

Skincare and spa treatments on the other hand-I think those are fine. Skincare is super important and that's more about maintaining your looks than changing your looks.

titlejunk · 2020-09-15T23:44:04+00:00

I was au naturalle until almost 40. My boobs weren’t perky anymore after 2 kids but they were small with great nips and I never had any complaints. I HATED my belly after kids. As a small woman generally, my belly bore the brunt of stretching to accommodate another life and it didn’t snap back. I had lots of stretch marks and excess skin. In my late 30s I wanted to get a tummy tuck and my husband expressed that he wouldn’t mind if I got my tits done in the process. I did both. It was so painful. Traumatically so. But I now feel more confident with my body than at any other time in my life. I look amazing.

Since then I’ve had laser hair removal, Botox, IPL for sun damage... trying to think. There’s probably more. My husband draws the line at facial fillers and face lifts. He wants me to still look like me.

Ebenholz95 · 2020-09-15T18:10:36+00:00

I would never get plastic surgery, especially if I decide to have kids.

"Mummy why do I have a long nose when you and Dad don't?"

"Oh hunny, that's because my nose used to be long like yours but I was ashamed of it and had surgery to change it."

That's not going to mess with a kid's head at all.

IcarusKiki · 2020-09-15T17:55:27+00:00

I don’t think plastic surgery is necessary unless you have a deformity or birth defect. Natalie Portman has super tiny breasts and she’s still considered hot. There’s so much you can do with makeup and exercise and healthy eating to become attractive. I’d say the farthest I went for beauty was accutane when I was 16 but that point i was covered in acne to the point where makeup wasn’t cutting it. However, I don’t think guys really mind high maintenance women as long as they don’t interrupt their time together or the woman is openly vain or obsessive about her looks.

IGuessIFuckingLoveIt · 2020-09-15T20:02:08+00:00

Chin removal?!

Svenskamamma · 2020-09-15T21:55:10+00:00

It’s the norm in my area but only very subtly, you would never see big puffed up lips or completely frozen faces. I get fillers each year in my cheeks to create more definitive cheekbones and get Botox every three months. If you get it done with a reputable cosmetic doctor no one will even know but again it needs to be very subtle.

party_dragon · 2020-09-16T12:13:19+00:00

Personally, any surgery or even makeup is deception and hence lowers SMV / RMV, but I think many men disagree...

Having said that, I often think surgery and even makeup are a cope. Second order optimisation that sounds easy and allows you to avoid doing the hard work. Are you doing all the first-order stuff?

you’re healthy weight (whatever that means to you... I like flat stomach, some women & men prefer big butts... stomach hanging out of your pants is definitely too fat)
working out (running, ab workouts, squats to reduce cellulite)
keeping your hair long healthy and washed
wearing fitting but not revealing clothes?
smiling, keeping a friendly & feminine demeanor, radiating positive energy?
sleeping enough, meditating?

If “yes” to all above, and you’re still not getting the attention/interest you want, maybe consider surgery. If you’re only getting surgery because of your low self esteem (“men would like me more if my boobs were half a cup bigger”) or you’re to lazy to exercise 30min/day, then its probably a bad idea.

Ms_Sommersby · 2020-09-16T13:22:18+00:00

Ive had laser, botox, teeth whitening, hair straightening and I dont eat bread or grains. My day to day is minimal. I dont need an elaborate skin care routine. I get mani/pedis. But dont wear a lot of make up. Id like to do more day to day for my presentation.

Will probably get a mini face and neck lift in my late 40s. Some can be natural looking. Will probably get my teeth capped. Would not get boob job or other surgery. Ive got a big nose but I like my shnozz.

wafflesdakat · 2020-09-16T14:53:50+00:00

I am not one to go for fake types of plastic surgery that looks unnatural (lip fillers, chin implants, crazy stuff like that etc). But I do plan on getting lipo in Feb. I am a very active person who has a fit body; but I have very long, slim arms and legs and a disproportionally short torso. So I plan on getting lipo to even out my midsection so it can match the rest of my body and so I can actually feel confident about my body. And Im always down for some natural hair highlights/lash tint etc. Things that enhance your natural beauty, not things thats drastically change it.

S-Soda1 · 2020-09-16T22:31:28+00:00

I know many people who have had work done (dental/nose jobs/Botox/fillers) and I would say it did bring up their SMV. With permanent one-off changes (ex. Rhinoplasty) I don't think it affects MMV. But if it's constant upkeep and expenses, and/or it is accompanied by perfectionism/self worth issues then I think it would bring down MMV.

My friend had a nose job done to fix her sinus issues but she loved the cosmetic change too. My mother has had Botox and micro blading done. It looks natural on her and she is still aging with grace. Both of them are much happier with how they look.

As for me- I've had lip filler done (half a mL/syringe) to even my lips out. My profile is so much better. I've started wearing lipstick regularly for the first time. I smile more.

I also get lash extensions. Light volume, cat eye. So I don't need to wear eye makeup and I still feel done up. For now that's all I really want or think I need.

If I feel I need it then I am not against getting a mommy makeover (tummy tuck/boob lift) and some Botox once I'm done having children. My husband was initially against getting any sort of work done, but since seeing my friends and family (who are very open about any work they have) he's come around. It's not all duck lips, boobs a mile out, and bad tans lol.

MilkiesMaximus · 2020-09-18T02:40:07+00:00

The only extreme things I've considered is getting a boob reduction or left after having kids, maybe a tummy tuck if I got loose skin after.

In the mean time I focus on my diet and exercise. I've been shifting to a plant based diet, running, and body weight or light weight stuff 4-5 times a week.

DunboyCastleInTheSky · 2020-09-18T11:30:55+00:00

My parents and G_d blessed me with good genes. So far I’ll get my eyebrows done, get a perm, & stay in shape. That’s it though. 😂

MuseofPetrichor · 2020-09-15T19:29:04+00:00

I can't afford plastic surgery or fillers or even braces, which I really need, but I do have a skincare regimen and use a sunhat or spf. I love trying skincare/haircare products. I dance and do yoga. I'm trying to lose weight and change my diet/drink more water (ahem lacroix) and have less sugar. I was fat when my husband met me, so the changes are mostly for me and my health and keeping my looks/health as long as possible rather than because my husband expects a certain appearance. He loves me for me, but I would like to look as good as I can for him.

Title	What extent would you go to improve your looks smv?
Author	brownlatina
Upvotes	33
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Date	September 15, 2020 5:36 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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