R/Askwomen thread is chock full of women talking about how they "put up" with their beta husbands while forever thinking about their alpha ex's. Read this thread. Read all of it.

30303030303030 · 2014-03-29T17:12:56+00:00

Fast forward 3 years she sees my engagement announcement to another woman. My ex calls and tells me that leaving me was the biggest mistake of her life.

Shocker.

It's rp 101, that thread, but go tell them that and they won't believe.

Areimanes · 2014-03-29T17:30:10+00:00

But… when I think about “when I fell in love” all the moments belong to Paul. Every time my daughter asks “tell me about love” it’s hard not to tell her about Paul. Because I knew what it was like to REALLY love someone romantically. I have a different kind of love for my husband. I know he thinks we were “meant to be” and I’m his “soul mate” but I can’t shake the thought that my soul mate is a man I can never speak to again.

When I was still plugged in, this was always my greatest fear - having some woman settle for me after she'd gone through every ride at the local fair and only loving me for what I could 'bring' to the table.

If there's still a man who believes in the typical love story as formed by Hollywood: stop living in denial and read this thread.

My blood pressure is elevated just by reading this shit, because there are plenty of good men slaving away their lives for wives that don't really love their husbands. Eventually that will come to a halt when their wives can't take it any more (after 'giving him everything and more') and divorce rape the guy while riding the CC once again looking for that 'true love'.

Here's an update from her in the same thread:

Also know that I do love Craig, in fact... I think I love him in a deeper and more profound way than I loved Paul. You really learn the depths of yourself when you're submursed in "doing the right thing". Don't be afraid of being Craig. I can assure you he's happy and so am I. I think, even if he knew how I felt, he would work with me in couseling to continue our marriage. He knows that I'm commited to him.

I am speechless. I can't form any words. The hamster in her is so massive, it might crush the very fabric of the universe.

Ironhigh · 2014-03-29T17:46:57+00:00

Be the guy that she'll fantasize after 15 years. Don't be the the guy who wastes his life to supply for a middle aged slut.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-03-29T16:31:10+00:00

What gets me is these women and manginas over there don't even recognize this story as disgusting or evil. They call it beautiful tragedy and other such shit.

I have been thinking it ever since I got here. Why oh why didn't I take the Blue Pill.

2comment · 2014-03-29T16:53:36+00:00

When I was 18, I met Paul. We hit it off, almost instantly. I won’t go into the details, but we had many adventures together and falling in love with him came so easily I didn’t even realize it happened until I knew that I couldn’t live without him. He was also my first serious relationship. As things progressed and became more serious, I started to talk with friends and family about my future with him. I wanted to marry him. I wanted to have his children. He felt the same way about me, we discussed it quite frankly. “You’re too young” “you’ve never even been with anyone else” friends would say… I was young and the idea that maybe I WAS being too rushed, maybe I needed to explore the world, etc, was planted. I was weak and I relented. Paul and I took a break so I could “figure things out”.

Bolded for "Ride the cock carousel!" All aboard! Choo-choo!

Stupid people taking other stupid peoples' advice makes me laugh. Reminds me last time I was at a fast food place, some young kid worker taking financial advice from some 70 year old cashier there. Unless it's on what not to do with your life, 99/100 that guy doesn't obviously doesn't know shit.

Ironhigh · 2014-03-29T17:56:10+00:00

There's one dude who has ruined 3 of my relationships. I'm just staying away from him from now on.

This one makes me laugh, she cheated on 3 guys riding the same cock and puts the blame on the dude.

HumanSockPuppet · 2014-03-29T16:41:06+00:00

This thread also re-emphasizes something important that Red Pill men tend to overlook:

The thing about administering the Red Pill to women...is precisely that it needs to be administered to them. They won't take it themselves.

Men are driven to the Red Pill out of necessity, out of dire want, driven by their smouldering sex drives or their fatal nihilism after a bitter divorce rape.

But women are passive. They play a safe game, and when a life decision doesn't work out, they often don't fix it - they simply endure it until something else (hopefully) comes along.

Red Pill Women are not born. They're not even self-made. They're made by YOU.

Find your woman and teach her.

needsomehelp3211 · 2014-03-29T15:52:59+00:00

If there was ever a perfect Redpill thread from r/askwomen, this is it.

A few prime case studies:

throwawaycuzhusband: Dates a guy named Paul for a while, clearly an alpha because he keeps her salivating for him long after they break up. Finally she marries some other chump and gets him pregnant. Guess what? Paul calls her up again and for the last many years, she just can't stop thinking about him. She openly admits that while she appreciates her husband's cash and provider status, Paul is her only true love and will be the only one she ever felt passion for.

TheWorstIndianAlive: The name says it all. 28-y.o. Indian woman who went on a furious carousel-riding journey through college. Dated a beta but couldn't put up with him because he was so supplicating. Dated an alpha who then broke up with her. Now she's gone through a laundry list of men and desperately needs her parents to get her an arranged marriage.

Salamandrattackforce: Dated a guy named Scott throughout college. He was a great boyfriend, perfect really. Well, he moves away for grad school and the plan was for her to follow him later on. Guess what? A week after he leaves, this chick starts sleeping with a guy who is a "convicted rapist, "smoked pot every single moment of free time", and "had an awful temper". Now she misses Scott but thank god, he won't take her back.

Take home point: If you marry a girl who is in her late 20s or 30s, her best years are already behind her. She's already had wonderful relationships and cherished memories. She'll constantly pine about the one who got away, and will force a smile when she's in your presence just so you will keep the cash flowing. In reality, she'll think of you nothing more than an ATM.

foooow · 2014-03-29T20:13:48+00:00

It ended in divorce shortly after he went to see my favorite band in concert with his friends at a festival and didn't invite me.

To 'guys who want to get married'::::Read and understand what you are dealing with

foooow · 2014-03-29T20:17:09+00:00

We hit it off immediately. Super intense mental AND physical attraction which is rare for me. Well then I find out he has this long distance gf he's had since high school, but they practice an "open" relationship or some bs. I found out a couple of days before Valentine's Day, he told me she was coming in town for it and he was going to take her out and break it off. I was pissed. Why would he let her come up at all? So I broke it off. I was actually casually talking to another guy who I liked at the time who had a psycho ex who lived in town.

It's not okay if he does it, but it's totally fine for me! Ever wonder why there are no good women leaders or philosophers?

Zaorish9 · 2014-03-29T20:36:10+00:00

Good lord, imagine if "Craig" saw this thread. The drama would be epic. If I were him, I can't imagine the amount of humiliation and rage that would ensue. I'm so glad I found TRP.

stop_talking_ · 2014-03-29T20:25:35+00:00

It's really amazing to watch the solipsism. Nowhere is it even considered how a man would feel in any of these comments. Women are so wrapped up in their own emotions it completely renders them incapable of empathy. I wonder if this is why feminism has risen so quickly. Men are programmed to empathize with women, women are programmed to empathize with themselves. Fascinating.

puaSenator · 2014-03-29T20:59:19+00:00

My favorite one is where the girl talks about how she found the perfect man, but he was moving to grad school, so she had to stay behind 2 months before being able to move in with him.

But she just couldn't stand being alone, so a week later she found another guy and dumped the man she loved -- because she couldn't stand being alone for 2 months in a LDR.

Why do I have a feeling this isn't all adding up? Just so happened to find a guy in a week and dump the guy you love? Just like that? On a whim? Nothing was happening before?

bukkake_news · 2014-03-29T16:34:59+00:00

Lol the fucking comments make me want to barf

Holy fucking shit what a poetic story. It captures just that undertone of existential tragedy inherent in the striving of imperfect beings toward a perfect love, and conveys just that sense and sug.... blahblahblah

What the fuck is this dork talking about?

Thank you. This actually made me cry. I hope for that too.

Jesus women are such emotional faggots sometimes

I would totally read a Sparks-like book based on /u/throwawaycuzhusband's story. Also, "The Best of Me" by Nicholas Sparks is kind of similar to her story. A guy and a girl fall deeply in love, but are separated because of their entirely different fam...

Please just shut the fuck up already. I can't date American women anymore they think life is a daytime Television show or a Nicholas Sparks novel (I don't even know who that is but I'm sure he writes emo-porn bullshit). I'm sure my Korean girlfriend is the same but the language barrier keeps me from knowing for certain.

seancj133 · 2014-03-29T18:53:31+00:00

Askbetas snapping out of their slumber and going the way of TRP for this one.

mordanus · 2014-03-29T19:53:07+00:00

That's something funny about women. They don't have to love you or have lust for you in order to have a relationship with you. They can just get with you and say "Well I can cross relationship/marriage off my bucket list." It doesn't matter who it is with once she hits the wall. Once the concept of them being alone hits them they get terrified of being alone and grasp at anyone. The real trick is to be sought out and not grasped for out of desperation.

2014-03-29T21:42:38+00:00

It's physically painful for me to listen to women jerk each other off.

Thank you guys for giving me the cliffsnotes.

TheSKSpecial · 2014-03-29T22:57:05+00:00

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Dreamtrain · 2014-03-29T17:16:20+00:00

Why the fuck do we even bother to search for scientific studies confirming TRP when reddit confirms it every week since forever.

abXcv · 2014-03-29T17:15:09+00:00

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ForkBender · 2014-03-29T19:03:52+00:00

Abortion? Naah. Let's have shitty life instead.

t21spectre · 2014-03-29T22:17:49+00:00

Women really are unempathic little cunts, its so sad.

EducatedCavemen · 2014-03-29T23:42:01+00:00

Okay, so first this shit is said.

About 7 months in, I got a phone call from Paul. He poured his heart out. He had dated other people, they didn’t compare… he wanted to get back together, but he knew that I was in a relationship and he was sorry that he didn’t come to me sooner. He would wait until the relationship ended naturally, but he wanted to give it a real try… we were adults now, we could really be together.I agreed. I began planning my way out of the relationship. I was very ready to be with Paul. I didn’t deserve another chance and I knew how lucky I was.

Then she says this. . .

Craig and I have a marriage that people envy. We’re incredibly loyal to one another and our family has grown since the birth of our son. I’m living the white picket fence kind of life. He’s my best friend. We joke, we laugh, we play with our kids… it’s the ideal family life. I’m happy, I feel lucky to live this life with him.

As soon as another alpha cock passes by or her beta of a husband fucks up, her loyalty is going to shrivel up so fast it's going to look like her vagina.

watersign · 2014-03-29T17:19:49+00:00

Alpha Fucks, Beta Bux. Marriage is about settling.

bsutansalt · 2014-03-29T21:29:14+00:00

Alpha widows galore.

lasertits69 · 2014-03-30T00:11:36+00:00

Hey OP, something to keep in mind is that a lot of people, myself included, tend to romanticize the past and subconsciously choose to avoid remembering the bad things about a former partner.

We do this because remembering shitty things makes us feel shitty and we try to avoid feeling shitty when we can.

Another reason this happens is because people don't like to accept they decided to spend several years of their life with the wrong person. For many of us, "she was pretty good and I let her get away," is an easier pill to swallow than "I wasted 4 years of my life with a terrible person who emotionally abused me and treated me like a turd."

Revise/Rewrite, explained.

Condorman80 · 2014-03-29T22:00:31+00:00

You know guys. Red Pill is not a religion. It's a theory. And this story is another puzzle piece that fits perfectly and further verifies the theory. There is a movie with Claire Danes, that is very much like this story. She had some caddies thunderloins fuck meet pussy into the plains of oblivion and she could not stop talking about him until she died. IF you are in a relationship with such a person you are the most unimportant person in the world. No matter how much the woman "loves"you. There is only one kind of love between man and woman and it's not for you. Don't. Be. That. Man.

PrimaxAUS · 2014-03-30T00:12:49+00:00

AWALT.

GM3d6 · 2014-03-29T21:29:31+00:00

THis reminds me of why I avoid relationships.

loveofnotes · 2014-03-29T19:42:34+00:00

Lololollol, the new thread that's heating up on askwomen is "do you ladies ever find yourselves ignoring your own advice?" And the first post is abouy some woman who "gives great relationship advise" but falls for the bad guy regularly despite how she would advise her friends. Lolololol, hamster!

gopher88 · 2014-03-29T18:30:06+00:00

I would tell Craig that he gave me the life I was meant to live, that my life with him is filled with more love than I could've asked for. Sometimes I truly believe that this was the path I was meant to take. I love my children more than anything in this world. I like to think of them as the loves of my life, and he gave that to me.

Wow.... Speechless

Rollo-Tomassi · 2014-03-31T00:34:20+00:00

Required reading: http://therationalmale.com/2012/01/04/five-minutes-of-alpha/

http://therationalmale.com/2012/01/06/the-slut-paradox/

http://therationalmale.com/2012/08/16/blueprint-for-an-alpha-widow/

TheSKSpecial · 2014-03-29T17:29:29+00:00

This is damn near sidebar-worthy, it's such a reinforcement of RP.

Can this get a sticky?

oldandgreat · 2014-03-29T22:03:12+00:00

Im new to this thing, but what are the characteristics of a alpha. Fucking her brain out? Being arrogant, give a fuck about her emotions, are these the essentials? Im very confused.

johnnight · 2014-03-29T22:45:53+00:00

I got a question.

There's a story in there about a chick getting super obsessed over her alpha boyfriend and not until he relapses into beta traits does she realize he's physically abusive (or so she says).

How do you guys explain her hamster keeping her in that relationship despite abuse and even coming back to it after leaving him?

Seems to me if her story is true they're both fucked in the head but I'd really like a play by play in a red pill format.

2014-03-30T06:38:35+00:00

The only thought that went through my head the moment after I read that was wondering what crappy romance novel/film/narrative this could be ripped from. This doesn't even make good fiction.

And I wonder how her current husband would think about her drooling over the alpha "she let go" years ago.

2014-03-30T07:22:28+00:00

god damn. the more i read the stories of what these women put their men through, the more im grateful for my future father and brother -in-law. of course we know that women behave appropriately around men when they are raised and taught correctly. I have never had these issues with my SO, none that stem from a blue pill problem. sure we may argue over what color sheets to get, but thats about it. she isnt trying to control me or the relationship. Im getting ready to grad in may with my BS and do you know what she did to surprise me? 2 days ago she drove up to see me and cooked me a whole fucking chicken with stuffing and greens and the works. she shows she loves me. and you know i showed it back by telling her how thoughtful she was and etc. its not that hard to not play games but that what some women do. me and her have been together since we were 15 going on 24. so she has no need to play games with me since i still get her while she is in her prime. it just saddens me that i see men on reddit and even in my classes dealing with classless women.

x3oo · 2014-08-07T22:20:22+00:00

[-] sorrywrongguy 22 Points 21:24:08, 28 March 
My case is rather more extreme than the others, but I feel that maybe other people can relate to it, so perhaps I should post it.

During my early years of high school, I was dating what I would consider to be the "right" guy, even though I didn't really think of him as such at the time. He was chubby, awkward, short, and had a great deal of curly hair, pimples, and braces. He was certainly not the most handsome boy I had seen, and I only started dating him because I thought his taste in music was cool. ^sigh

But he was one of the sweetest boys I had ever met, and always treated me very well. He respected my sexual boundaries, was kind to my family, always made me mixed tapes and cool geometric drawings, and brought me flowers. He never said a word against me, even after we broke up, and was just all-around wonderful. I fell in love with him, despite him looking a bit silly.

After a few months, though, a different boy caught my eye: He was 6'3", slender, and had a very sharp, Scandinavian bone structure that I adored. Big lips and green eyes, the works. I fell for him after only talking to him for a few weeks, and decided to leave my then-boyfriend to date this handsome guy.

The relationship sucked immediately; I was almost obsessively drawn to him, and expected constant texting, kissing, and sex, although he returned the gestures in a cold manner. I remember after about two months of dating, I told him I loved him, and he told me he thought he would never love me. I blamed myself for being too attached, and began to hate myself for what I was doing, but I continued to love him.

The tables turned over time, though. He had a massive drinking problem (we lived in central Europe, so the drinking age is younger than in the US or UK), and would often become emotional when he drank. He would call me at 2 or 3 in the morning, shit-faced, crying and asking me to come outside and see him. When I did meet him, he was always covered in blood -- whether the blood was his or somebody else's, he never said. He got into fights with other people, and came home at least every weekend with bruises and cuts. He began to obsessively fall in love with me, while I turned away from him gradually. However, there was this underlying magnetic attraction to him that I couldn't control, which is why I stayed with him.

Our relationship became even worse, and he started turning his alcoholism and violence to me. When I fucked up, he would either hit me or bite me. Sometimes he would leave marks, but most often not. I didn't tell anyone about what was going on until a friend at school managed to catch a glimpse of it; he had slammed my fingers shut in a locker door while we were alone, because some of his friends claimed I cheated on him, and my friend saw and asked me about it later. He convinced me to break up with this guy.

I did, although reluctantly, and came back to him almost immediately. This pattern continued for about 6 months. I felt like I was in love with him to the extent where I could overlook this abuse, but in hindsight, I was terribly, terribly afraid. I was abused as a child, and so I think some of this fear was coming from past-traumas. Eventually, I managed to move on and my desire and attraction to him had faded. I began to date another boy, but still kept in contact with the last one.

He continued to harass me by calling me late at night after drinking and throwing rocks at my window. He was much kinder to me, though, and had stopped hitting me. He always begged me to take him back, but I stood my ground.

There was one distinctive day that ruined everything, though. He came over to my house when my parents were gone, telling me he needed to talk about something. I reluctantly let him in. He held me down and raped me that day.

I kept in contact with him after that day, although it was in complete fear. I hid the events of that day from my then-boyfriend and my parents for almost a year, but they knew something was wrong. I wasn't myself after that and am still quite apprehensive about getting intimate with somebody. I finally cut contact with him one day, but still think about him often and wonder where he is and what he's doing. I still love him, but it's a strange kind of love. Perhaps it's not really love, but another strong emotion that I can't quite categorize. As much as I feel that for him, I'm also in complete fear of him. Even to the extent where this is written on a throwaway account because he still knows my reddit username and I'm almost positive he always looks at it. After all, he loved me, too, in the end.

This story ist pretty much the opposite, a girl which left her beta male for an alpha and stayed with him even though he beat her because of his alpha characteristics.

x3oo · 2014-08-07T22:27:08+00:00

Sorry but many stories there read like: "I had this beta male which i left for a bad boy / alpha looking / more attractive guy and now i regret leaving my beta." It reads like they all left for stupid reasons like better looks, better game etc. and miss the beta properties.

2014-03-29T23:39:09+00:00

Jesus, can I get a trigger warning on this? Fuck that made me cringe and grit my teeth.

vacuu · 2014-03-30T06:17:00+00:00

Great thread. So much redpill here. Check out the little tidbit at the end.

One of my best friends had that experience. When she was in her early twenties she got together with S. S was funny, amazing with children and devoted to her. S however was not at all adventurous. He loved her sense of adventure and would happily join in on everything, but he was very much a "salt of the earth" kind of guy. Not artistic, not going to wake up one morning and decide to trek around India and thus too boring and normal for my friend. Twenty years on she is still regretting the decision. Her boyfriends were arty, but mentally unstable. So adventurous they couldn't hold a job down. Genius, but highly abusive. Unsurprisingly she regrets her decision horribly. However he is happily married with kids. She starts meeting him and working her magic. Wife is not impressed. We tell friend to stop being a bitch and leave the poor guy alone. He is like a moth to the flame when it comes to her. In the end she agrees. Still talks about him though. Especially as she has just dumped her latest boyfriend because he was more jealous than a dog watching someone eating cheese and her children window has closed. She says that he was the right guy at the wrong time.

foooow · 2014-03-29T20:07:00+00:00

1.he would either hit me or bite me. 2.I felt like I was in love with him 3.one distinctive day that ruined everything. He came over to my house when my parents were gone, telling me he needed to talk about something. I reluctantly let him in. He held me down and raped me that day. I still love him, but it's a strange kind of love. Perhaps it's not really love, but another strong emotion that I can't quite categorize.

Very loose definition of "rape". I'll never understand how someone can hold you down while taking your pants off, his pants off, the undewear, and then fuck you for 5-15minutes without you being able to stop him.

Luckyluke23 · 2014-03-30T04:54:27+00:00

I red the first story in this and I don't think it's all that bad.

everyone has the " one that got away", even me, and I am a red pill kind of man.

I do think she loves her husband. she just loves another man too. in this day an age you should expect that. I don't think her husband is second best. I just think it is what it is. they have a great life together.

Edit: to me, most of the stories sound like life. sure the guys could have been aphal, but how many guys in this world are TURLY alpha, not many. we can tear this whole thread apart or we can just leave it for what it is.

I am in a very poetic mood right now.. . here is a song to reflect that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmUG1ffgKFw

T-bear96 · 2014-03-29T23:55:40+00:00

Holy hell ... I feel sick after reading that.

swishandswallow · 2014-03-30T00:03:46+00:00

violent_frame · 2014-03-30T05:49:44+00:00

Just to play devils advocate a bit, let's just imagine that this woman did choose to stay with craig due to the pregnancy. Rather than a scenario where she asks Paul to take her in, he says no she stays with Craig.

Anyways, I find this to be a laudable choice on her part, she could have done the 'right thing' in the BP parlance and broke up with Craig on the pretense that she doesn't love him enough. Be a single mom and another kid without a father.

She in fact did do the right thing to build a family. What she did is not so unlike an arranged marriage, from all the Indians I know, men and women seems to be a quite livable arrangement that is filled with real love and concern. I'm frankly a bit sad that I can't I cannot take advantage of that system and get on with the business of starting a family. Which while gratifying and important for children is primarily an economic construct.

But noooo, here in the west we need to be in luuuuuuuv, the tingles and flutters must be in full force, which by their very nature are transitory.

2014-03-30T14:21:44+00:00

Interesting how she says "his children" before getting pregnant and "our child" afterwards.

Also, this is pretty much consistent with the fact that women cannot love only one person and will always be seeking the best mate. I think, in general, men are more content once they settle in life. Unfortunately, it's all too easy for women to take advantage of the beta bucks.

trpMilo · 2014-03-30T20:52:41+00:00

Way too late on this comment but NEVER date a girl you've been friends with for awhile. Girls need to go from meeting you to fucking you within 1-2 weeks max for it to be the "passionate whirlwhind" they fantasize about. You don't do that and you're just each other's leftovers.

Dreamtrain · 2014-03-29T18:05:19+00:00

I honestly don't think that story is real.

She starts off by saying, "I suck at writing" then goes on to write one of the most well written comments of reddit. It's a little too perfect.

Mustaka · 2014-03-30T03:00:27+00:00

This girl is about as ratchet as they come.

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