Why shouldn't you date a former slut if you yourself were a player?

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June 27, 2019

Genuine question here. I had a discussion with a friend last night. I thought about getting serious with a chick that I've been banging and she has an awesome personality. I told my buddy that I just wasn't sure because I suspect that she had a promiscuous past. He mentioned that I myself am no saint. I've banged well over 100 chicks. I said that it was different for guys, but I couldn't really explain why. Now I'm stuck wondering if it's wrong of me to hold her to higher standards than I hold myself. And if it should be a standard of excellence in the first place.

Any thoughts?

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Title Why shouldn't you date a former slut if you yourself were a player?
Author iwishyoudstopstaring
Upvotes 120
Comments 167
Date 27 June 2019 01:56 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/243652
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/c65tr8/why_shouldnt_you_date_a_former_slut_if_you/
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[–]1TyroneTheDriver517 points518 points  (48 children) | Copy

It takes 0 effort to be a slut.

It takes a lot of effort to be a player.

The game is different for men and women.

[–]NobodyP1114 points115 points  (7 children) | Copy

Pretty much what he said because most guys will fuck most girls but most girls won’t fuck most guys

[–]throw_this_far_awayy53 points54 points  (6 children) | Copy

It takes 0 effort to be a slut.

O yeah, this is true too. 100 for a man shows you are dedicated to your pursuit of short term happiness.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

Short term happiness? What do you mean? A guy who fucks 100 hot girls have a lot more happiness than short term. He is probably happy a lot.

[–]livear 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Or the other way around.

You don't get to fuck 100 girls unless you're already pretty happy and successful.

[–]CasaDeFranco11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really? Am I not the only one who feels empty inside after easy lays?

It feels like a distraction from more meaningful relationships / goals.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Facts of life.

[–]throw_this_far_awayy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]jackandjill2213 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

something something...female version broken lock, male version master key. something something...

[–]OilyB46 points47 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lock that opens up to many keys is a worthless lock, A key that opens many locks is... The master key.

The target doesn't need practice, The bowsman does.

[–]Imperator_Red2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, this is an effect, not the cause. The reason is that male paternity is uncertain while female maternity is certain. So committing to a slut is dangerous, evolutionarily.

[–]rafaelvicuna24 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]cpotpie13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

WOW! Never thought of it this way. WELL PUT

[–]ChadTheWaiter1000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Skr8888888up. Dis it right hur kinfo.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. On the inverse it is very impressive for a high quality woman to only be with 1-3 guys her entire life and stay loyal. For a man that automatically makes him low quality in most cases

[–]iwishyoudstopstaring 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Cool. But wouldn't that work in the opposite fashion? What I mean is that, suppose person A lives in a country where alcohol is legal, cheap, and easy to come by. Now compare person B who grew up in a Muslim country where getting alcohol took a lot of effort to obtain.

You'd probably blame person A far less than person B for being an alcoholic, wouldn't you?

[–]1TyroneTheDriver0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not sure I can draw a parallel.

In this situation, the results are negative for both individuals. In the slut vs. stud debate, you could 100% argue that the slut has lowered her value, where the man has only increased his.

Your example would make sense to me if your conclusion was that now both people have ample amounts of alcohol in their wet bars, which was the original goal for both. The thing is, the person who had to work to locate all of those bottles definitely has a more impressive collection than the one who just has to go to the corner store at any moment to get what they want.

[–]maljo24-4 points-3 points  (3 children) | Copy

You are pretty much clueless. Ask a woman. Having sex from her perspective has a lot involved and she is taking most of the risk: pregnancy, HIV, shame, etc.

[–]1TyroneTheDriver2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol, what does this have to do with anything??

[–]divorcedbp2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look up and read the original statement again.

You are mistaking risk for effort. I’m not going to address your statement about the risks that women take, because it’s not germane to the conversation.

It’s very risky for me to walk down the street with $100 bills hanging out of my pockets, but it takes very little effort to do so.

Similarly, it might be risky for a woman to sleep with 100 men, but it takes very little effort on her part.

[–]CainPrice240 points241 points  (31 children) | Copy

Show me a man who's fucked 100 women, and you're showing me a man who's decent-looking, fun, interesting, and socially skilled.

Show me a woman who's fucked 100 men, and you're showing me any old girl who says yes a lot. In fact, she probably has low discipline, poor impulse control, bad judgment, and mental health issues that cause her to seek out and value attention from lots of men. Not to mention, you have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with her. The median partner count for women is under 10, because most women have boyfriends - sex with the same person multiple times instead of sex with lots and lots of people one time each. Why the fuck did nobody want to date her until you?

[–]Legitimate_Fruit 1 points [recovered]  (27 children) | Copy

The median partner count for women is under 10


[–]CainPrice72 points73 points  (6 children) | Copy

Believe it or not, women who have steady boyfriends for most of their lives aren't quite as super-slutty as women who do the casual thing.

A girl who fucks her high school boyfriend, has one boyfriend each year in college, and gets married around age 25 can easily come in under 10, even with a few college hook-ups between boyfriends.

A girl who dumps her high school boyfriend so she can spend her college years hooking up with guys, then spends her post-college years doing the bars and Tinder thing, and is now 29 and looking for a husband? She'll be waaaaay over 10.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Said this in another thread and ate downvotes.

[–]babybopp2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

A girl that has a problem keeping boyfriends usually has a higher N count.

OP is probably a privileged kid. He has been getting laid because of daddy's money because if he truly had improved himself to game status by sheer effort, no self worth man would want to date a cock expeditioner. There are probably quite a few other guys that are in OPs shoes all thinking they are in the number one slot.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was referring to the part about the average girls body count not being nearly as high as other posters ITT think. Not about OP specifically.

[–]HurricaneHugues1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You have a way to prove their mileage? Just because she has a boyfriend, it doesn't mean she isn't fucking other guys. I don't know when you guys are gonna get it in your skulls that having a boyfriend or being married means absolutely nothing nowadays

[–]volvostupidshit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. Social media has made it so easy for girls to act like they have HSPDs.

[–]thrwy754791 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Based on personal experience, this is true.

Her first has to be the right dude, someone like her father. She also needs to have a consistent, and good social circle during those early years, i.e., one that doesn't promote promiscuity, with supporting values from the family.

They may be hard to find, and they're still girls, but there are good ones out there.

[–]LiteraIIyJesus 1 points [recovered]  (19 children) | Copy

Man I know that lessons and stories here probably have you thinking otherwise, but women with high n counts are just a perceived majority. That being said, however, A man should operate under the assumption that every woman is a slut, even if it isn't true. Better safe than sorry.

[–]Blaze-Bless1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is true, most of the girls we meet or see in the dating world are the ones with higher n-counts, doesn't mean there aren't some more conservative chicks who dated one guy at a time for a decent amount of time steadily throughout their youth. I went to high school with some serious sluts, also there was some hot girls who would have 1-3 boyfriends throughout. Obviously chicks can cheat and lots do, but realistically there is girls out there that can suppress urges and exercise some degree of self control/accountability. Still AWALT by default, and I ain't talking about unicorns, just agreeing that there will be some chicks with lower n-counts than might be assumed.

[–]Legitimate_Fruit 1 points [recovered]  (17 children) | Copy

Most girls in their early 20's have a body count above 20.

Watch until 2:20 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9uD7yM6bxQ

[–]tuckastheruckas11 points12 points  (15 children) | Copy

Fucking highly doubt "most girls" in their early 20's have a count higher than 20. Im 24 myself and out of all of my friends that are girls, only 2 of them have a number that high.

[–]Legitimate_Fruit 1 points [recovered]  (10 children) | Copy

That's what you think ;)

[–]tuckastheruckas5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy

[–]HurricaneHugues3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The dicks they sucked after the bar never count. Neither does the one night stand aftet the club because he left before 4am

[–]Legitimate_Fruit 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy

Lol, I hope you're trolling. Have you heard about the term "self-report bias" before? Basically everything you linked there is complete horeshit. Even the answers in the video were complete horseshit, everyone were exaggerating their number downards, so let me correct myself. Most girls in their 20s doesn't have a body count above 20, but probably above 30-40.

All the stuff you linked is not valid at all, because of the bias I just spoke about, also if they truly measure amount of sex partners in a life time, then they're giga wrong and not applicable in todays age. Most people there should be old as fuck right now. In their 70's and 80's. We're in a different time now with more money, the internet and online dating.

You do understand that girls literally travel for dick right? They abuse the fuck out of the anonymity of traveling as well as online dating.

Trust me when I say this, it isn't just the two girls you know with a body count above 20, it's pretty much every single one of them, you just don't know it.

[–]tuckastheruckas-2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy

I know only those two are above 20, and one of them might not even be at 20, I just assumed it has gone up since she last told me. They wouldn't lie to me about it dude. You just have a sick, twisted view of women and refuse to believe what I'm saying.

Not sure where you live, how old you are, or who you hangout with, but if you think most women in their 20's have fucked 30-40 dudes..... well bud, not even sure how to argue with you. Just believe what you want to believe I guess.

[–]Legitimate_Fruit 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

If you're in NA or Europe and live in a big city, then what I'm saying is definitely true.

I know only those two are above 20, and one of them might not even be at 20, I just assumed it has gone up since she last told me.

They wouldn't lie to me about it dude.

That's what you think. Also keep in mind. If she was drunk, the guy wore a condom, or it happened on a trip to europe, it doesn't count. This is literally peak female mentality. They just delete all those scenarios from their mind. Maybe she fucked a bit less than 20, but they were all raw, and she doesn't count the 2 threesomes, and the several chads she only blew, or the guys who fucked her in the ass.

[–]SwoleyMoleyFrijoley0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Anecdotal evidence is not evidence. Either way. Society does try to impose a casual-sex culture these days.

[–]Protocol_Apollo 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

You can’t be sure they are telling the truth. All girls underplay/have an incentive to underplay their number.

Best thing- assume all girls ARE sluts, and let them prove otherwise. It’s better than the other way

[–]tuckastheruckas8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't go around asking them dude haha. I've been friends with them for long enough to know.

"assume all girls are sluts"?? Honestly just speechless. This is far from the truth and basically a niceguys/incel line of thinking. Really hope you can come back to reality.

[–]discohumpty4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep and as you get older, the thrill or shine of a girl who's been around wears off. Instant turn off for me now. I'll still bang once or twice don't get me wrong.

[–]Foolishoe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because you are an idiot and shes a fucking wreck. Usually there are other huge red flags, hopefully some DD and he realizes this.

These kinds of women are great friends, they know everyone and they are fun. You dont have to put your dick into anything that knows more about fucking strangers than you do, most of the time you shouldn't.

Great people to know, how long does it take for HIV to show up on a health screening? 7 years?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Show me a woman who's fucked 100 men, and you're showing me any old girl who says yes a lot. In fact, she probably has low discipline, poor impulse control, bad judgment, and mental health issues that cause her to seek out and value attention from lots of men. Not to mention, you have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with her.


[–]TheBleachedTshirt 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

A "former" slut.

[–]nobody_thinks6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Casanova-Quinn63 points64 points  (2 children) | Copy

Jim Jefferies said it best:

"Every single time a man sleeps with a lot of women, he’s called a stud. But if a woman sleeps with a lot of men, she’s called a slut. And people think this is unfair. Not! It’s completely fair. And I’ll tell you why, right? Because it’s fucking easy to be a slut. It’s fucking hard to be a stud. To be a stud you have to be witty, charming, well-dressed, have nice shoes and a fab job. To be a slut you just have to be there. There are fat ugly sluts out there. There are no fat ugly studs."

[–]IQtheMC 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Ever seen Patrice Oneal or even RSD Luke? Fat ugly studs right there. Barry White, Ceelo, Ron Jeremy. My friend Garrett who isnt famous..

[–]vullnet1239 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Majority of those guys are celebs besides ron Jeremy who’s a porn star and rsd .

[–]goudamac83 points84 points  (7 children) | Copy

A key that opens many locks is a precious key. A lock that can be opened by many keys is a worthless lock.

[–]izzyinjurious12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is in the sidebar I believe or one of the old top posts. You can’t describe it better than this. Take my upvote you man slut.

[–]mutemath218 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

I dated a slut in college. I once kissed her hand while out in public in the afternoon(yeah, I know, I was a betamax) and it smelled like she'd been masturbating if that gives you any idea about her drive.

  • She'll have orbiting "guy friends" and exes who've had a taste and will come back for more. It's kinda funny the first time some simp is texting her or calls crying while she's in bed with you, but it's less funny when she's in the bathroom texting her ex at 2 AM.
  • Sluts are often sluts because they have a Cluster B personality disorder or being abused when they were young. The truth is that very little is known about the brain and even veteran mental health professionals are essentially trying to put out fires with dixie cups filled with water.
  • During her slutty "phase" she will bang guys way above your social status and sexual prowess which will leave a strong impression on her psyche. EG, one evening she'll remember her fling with Dr Chad the 6'3" marathon runner, look over and see you on the couch watching Netflix, and get resentful.

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]SwoleyMoleyFrijoley11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not for me. Women control sex. If she's letting 100+ dudes into her snatch she is impulsive, more likely to cheat, has poor decision making skills, and was apparently willing to have a baby with over 100 guys. (Sex ALWAYS has a chance. Life finds a way).

Not to mention her pair bonding is not going to work anymore. Thousand cock stare is a thing. I'd rather have a stage 5 clinger who's a HB7-8 over a HB10 who's had more dicks in her than a urinal.

[–]omega_dawg9325 points26 points  (5 children) | Copy

men are valued for their TAR (time, attention & resources).

women are valued for their beauty, femininity & fertility.

a woman giving up her womb freely... to be impregnated by just anyone, to catch STDs, etc while expecting nothing but cum & a good feeling is the equivalent of a man giving multiple women his TAR and expecting nothing in return, ie, he's a fool with $.

any woman who brings up this shit needs to answer one question:

while you're running around giving away pussy, is it ok for your future hubby to be giving away all his money, time etc to multiple women and getting NOTHING for it... running himself into debt?

when put in this context, they (almost) understand bc women live in the moment. always.

as the saying goes, "men spend their lives trying to get credit for all the good they've done... women spend their lives trying to avoid punishment for all the depravity they seem to love."

[–]OilyB4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Came here to say this. A male slut is the guy who starts buying expensive presents on the first date. Then the presents get more and more expensive, whether or not they get pussy in return. And he does this with every date... That guy? That guy is the guy all women will gladly take advantage of.

Guys need to protect their time, attention and resources. Women need to protect the pussy. ... Or all guys will take advantage of her.

Edit - whether or not etc

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A TRUE male slut is a friend zoned orbiter who does physical labor and provides gifts and emotional support to a woman he isn’t sleeping with

[–]omega_dawg931 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

but here's their biggest problem:

they use their pussy to get their currency = ATTENTION.

and attention is like crack cocaine to females... but some also conflate the attention with power (over men bc they control them with vagina) which is also addictive and corrupts them.

she's the good looking feminist with the good job that acts like a total bitch to men and just about everyone else... using her pussy to control (weak) men as she collects DNA in her vagina & throat.

i know women that are proud to be this way... they're "empowered" but that wall is undefeated, and their fall is usually a sight to see.

next stop: horrible reputation, emotional wreck, extreme attention whoring (bc the looks fade), no kids, multiple abortions, likely a few STDs, and cats.

oh... and hating men bc none of them would "act right." I've seen this shit way too many times.

[–]OilyB0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's not a problem if you're a sensible guy. Guys do the same thing but with their 'male superpower' - attract women with their money.

The proof of a good person is in the extent to which they misuse their superpower: men who mercilessly use their money to abuse women are jerks. And as such - women who mercilessly use their pussy to abuse men's wallets and emotions are equally jerks.

[–]whoareyou311 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]F_Dingo12 points13 points  (6 children) | Copy

ya you can go and date a slutbag, but don't be surprised when she can't last more than 3 or 4 months in the "relationship".

Slutbags are damaged goods, they're liked used up and beat to shit cars with 400k miles.

[–]jerrymcguiver3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

My wife still fucks me 6 times a week after 13 years. I married a slut who fucks like one. Days around ovulation are 2-3x a day. During her last period i recieved in order from day 1 bj,bj,anal,anal,bj, and ended with another anal even though she was done bleeding i just felt like it.

Think a pair bond isn't possible with a slut? Averaging 3 orgasms per session and 6x per week for 13 years yields roughly 12,168 times my wife has pulsated on my cock with her pussy or ass. That's a lot of dopamine she associates with my dick.

Before me were 14 guys. 3 were ltrs, 9 ons, and 2 were only bjs. I'd wager she may have came 200-300 times with them. Not meant to humblebrag because yes i settled and now regret her low smv.

My point is you can refuse to accept women love dick and not want to get with one who isn't afraid to pursue it. Seems insecure and afraid to risk being cheated on but what do I know.

[–]onpuzzle15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Before me were 14 guys. 3 were ltrs, 9 ons, and 2 were only bjs.

And you believe her right lmao.

[–]F_Dingo5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

My point is you can refuse to accept women love dick and not want to get with one who isn't afraid to pursue it. Seems insecure and afraid to risk being cheated on but what do I know.

Idk man, I think there is a big difference to accepting that women enjoy sex versus trying to turn a hoe into a house wife. Maybe I have too much self respect or high standards, but a gal who was ridden like a bike in college won't be the mother of my kids. Stats show that the more partners a woman has before marriage, the likelihood of it ending in divorce shoot way up. Its great that everything has worked out for you and that you are happy in your marriage, that is something to cherish.

[–]jerrymcguiver-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

trying to turn a hoe into a house wife

If we can change as men for the better to find and keep a woman or be players etc. What's so wrong about a woman changing herself from ho to her high smv man's housewife. I never changed my wife, she changed herself to do whatever it took to satisfy me.

Stats show that the more partners a woman has before marriage, the likelihood of it ending in divorce shoot way up.

I'm assuming those same women hit the wall and ended up settling for BB. He got tired and cried about the dead bedroom as she fucked chads on the side before she left his ass and divorced. OP has 100+ chicks so let's forget about those 80% of guys causing this high statistic. That's right the guys fault. If they met her needs as a man and she was actually attracted to them, would she cheat or divorce? These studies show sluts end up getting divorced. I believe it's because of the man they had to settle for, not their being sluts. But if they weren't sluts they wouldn't cheat, maybe so but the man would still be unhappy sexually since they weren't sluts and attracted to them. So the man would once again cry about the dead bedroom.

[–]trpthrowaway21921 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

14 aint that bad with the way things are currently going tbh. Most have counts of 20+

[–]rfdshadow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This sounds like where I may end up...

[–]CamoWoobie1000018 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because I don't want to date a slut, men and women are different. If we were the same then women would be fighting wars over virgin cock.

I dont feel like my preferences need to align with what I offer, especially when the value assigned to male sexuality is different than female sexuality. If its okay for a 5'2 woman to want to date a 6'2 man then its okay for me not to want to date a slut.

[–]andyturbo2000 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

A man’s primal drive is to fuck as many women as possible and spread seed. A woman’s primal drive is to sort through the riff-raff and find a quality man for reproduction.

It’s against nature for women to ride the cock carousel and those that have done are unusual and come with the associated damage.

Men are programmed to fuck where and whenever possible. When women do this they are going against the grain, which affects future relationships and social operation.

[–]Red_Pill_Brotherhood2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most underrated comment here.

[–]jerrymcguiver-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

A woman’s primal drive is to sort through the riff-raff and find a quality man for reproduction.

What's so wrong with taking different dick to see if they're quality?

[–]andyturbo2000 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Women don’t tend to do this, which again supports the typical lesser notch count. They don’t tend to do this as dick is one of many facets they are looking for in a man. In their view ‘quality’ or SMV comes from not just dick. Vetting for quality men by testing dick results in a slut.

[–]jerrymcguiver1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Attraction is subconscious. A Woman can enjoy different attractive men. Consciously choosing to ride the cc to entertain that enjoyment of subconscious attraction. The conscious choice overrides the primal need to find the perfect male to get impregnated by. Just as i choose to have sodomize sometimes over vag and not spread my seed. A man chooses to be a player and consciously goes out of his way to enjoy the male version of cc. Either way, just because it's easy for a woman doesn't make it any different in terms of who's more quality parental material.

[–]BurningOrangeHeaven6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

I've thought about this too, like, everyone fuckin a lot of chicks is pretty much adding to the number of sluts out there. But at the same time, i could never see myself settiling down with an actual hoe.

[–]jerrymcguiver1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Enjoy the ever lasting hunt. Either live with regret of what if that ho wouldof been good enough or live like me and regret settling for the first slut to touch your dick.

[–]party_dragon0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe every Chad is fucking the same 1% of sluts..

[–]BurningOrangeHeaven1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

When normal chicks see sluts getting fucked by better looking/successful guys + sluts getting attention + sluts getting money from insta etc - they'll want to be sluts too. It just spreads and spreads imo.

[–]Huffnagle8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

All this stuff about how easy or hard it is to be a slut is completely irrelevant.

The real answer is girls who have had a lot of guys are less likely to pair bond. When she gets bored, and they all get bored, she’s less likely to have that deep commitment to help keep her loyal.

N count doesn’t seem to have the same effect on men.

[–]Qba1994-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

How not to keep it boring than?

[–]volvostupidshit-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Read the sidebar ffs.

[–]razenha3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's easy to be a slut. It's hard to be a player.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

He mentioned that I myself am no saint.

So what? This is the sort of fake equalism that women usually peddle. Are you sure your buddy isn't really a girl?

Men and women are different. Men's ability to pair bond isn't affected by banging a lot of women, but women are affected by getting run through.

It's call the "Thousand Cock Stare" not the "Thousand Twat Stare" for a reason.

[–]Psychological_Radish0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This is the answer that I was looking for scrolling through the comments.

I would say that men aren't immune from the psychological effects - FOMO and so forth - that result from having access to essentially unlimited sexuality. But that still doesn't have any bearing on the self-evident truth of the "men and women are different" argument.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is the answer that I was looking for scrolling through the comments.

You're welcome. I'm good like that. And you'll be better off if you stop hanging out with manginas.

[–]FUCK_YEA_GLITTER-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I want to agree, but how much of this is based on broscience?

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So avail yourself of The Google and find out what the likelihood of divorce is as a function of "# of cocks taken". It will be an eye opening experience for you.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lock vs key. Female smv goes down with the count while male smv goes up. You’re thinking with your dick.

[–]SupremeBBC2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The fact that you're considering dating a woman you define as a slut this highly is laughable. So when she gives you progeny are you going to tell them mama is a slut too?

[–]brinkleybuzz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women generally seek commitment. A slut is a woman who has either massively failed to get men to commit to her or has no interest whatsoever in a stable, monogsmous relationship.

Why would you select someone like this for a LTR?! That's like hiring an employee who has either been fired from or job-hopped through dozens of jobs.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

do you even sidebar bro

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don’t hold to the same standard people with completely different capabilities. You would judge a professional car mechanic and your 12-years-old sister with different standards of quality of servicing your car.

It’s incredibly hard for a random guy to sleep with many women because women are picky. So being a stud is a sign you’re quality mating material and in high demand. A woman would have good reasons to want to lock you down, with the caveat that you’re a risk of deserting her.

It’s incredibly easy for a woman to sleep with many men because men are horny. So being a slut isn’t a sign of quality whatsoever. Pairing with one though definitely presents the risk of you ending up raising a kid that’s not yours, and that’s the reason for men’s primal distrust of promiscuous women.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

The truth is you’ll be hard pressed to find a girl without a high body count. Assume every chick has a bad number and don’t even bother asking her. This keeps you fixed in reality and when you look to try and marry someone you can look past the idealized pure virgin idea you’ve created about her and get to brass tax. Look for practical important things. Does she take care of herself, is she nice, does she have a good job, does she want kids. Are your goals aligned, is she clean, is she a good cook etc. shit like that.

[–]Lazygeniiuss 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Gotta move to asia you will find virgins everywhere

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

No one wants to move to fucking Asia dude. Think about that realistically for one second. You’d be a total foreigner there. It would suck.

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol this is a great thread I’m just here for the reply

[–]Hedser911 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any thoughts? Well my thought is the following: you can either pick a slut or a woman that's lying about her body count. In this world you better make peace with the fact women have a higher body count then you probably have. Depressing thought but its the thruth. Women lie a lot my friend, dont ever ask them about their body count, its either high or they'll lie, you cant win.

[–]FlyingSexistPig1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Now I'm stuck wondering if it's wrong of me to hold her to higher standards than I hold myself"

Because men and women are different

[–]Siccunt991 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

In my experience most of the sluts i've met had friendly personality,but i know a lot of chicks that were in a year+ LTR that are entitled bitches(daddys girl).

[–]Minhha05101 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men create values, women keep it. Its far easier for a girl to be a slut than a guy to be a stud.

To be a stud you need to be good-looking, witty, charming have nice shoes and a fake job.

To be a slut all you need to do is have a vagina. Preferably a huge pair of tits.

[–]the13thmonk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Let's take your friends' mental frame and say that being a player / slut is bad.

It's perfectly fine to want a chick who has a history that increases her odds of being loyal to you, whilst not having that same history. Also women pair bond, men don't. As other's mentioned being a slut vs player is different.

And this is one dynamic of your and her person.

[–]Viscount611 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why shouldn’t you drive a used car that’s had 15 prior owners, if you used to be a used car salesman?

[–]cracksniffer6661 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There are no fat, ugly studs. Remember that. Also social media has made hypergamy run wild, so when you fuck up, another "stud" will be there to catch her weak emotional state, and of course, she'll give in. Good luck dude.

[–]hazelstein0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

aw hell nahhh.

[–]_Last_Man_Standing_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of people say the the reason not to LTR a slut is the difference in effort needed to become slut/stud.
I don't think that would be a good reason not to LTR. This is a true fact but it has nothing to do with ability to pair-bond.

Not to say it's a good idea to LTR a slut.
To elaborate:

The main reason not to date a slut in my opinion is: After a certain n-count women lose the ability to pair bond!
Why you ask? Well let me tell you :)

- for men sex is a physical experience. (it can be emotional as well but not with everybody and not often)
- for women sex is an emotional experience... EVERY time... even the one night stands.

Read "Sex Good Method" for more information on this.
And if you take into a consideration the brain chemistry of dopamine and serotonin.
People get addicted to it. And when they get addicted to it they need larder and larger dose/stimulus to get the same effect as before ("Chasing The Dragon" in drug terms)

You can search for RP term "Alpha Widowed" for more info on this.

Or just look for articles on addiction. It's the same stuff.

To summarize: Men can pair-bond even after 100 sexual partners because the experience of sex is not an emotional experience.
Women can ruin their ability to pair-bond even after one alpha. And after a whole carousel of alphas it's completely impossible.

Link if you want some more research on this topic: The Truth About Sex - Stefan Molyneux

[–]Eminencemiddle0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

A key that opens any lock is worth much. A lock that many keys can open is worthless.

[–]Chadster1130 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One of the many Redpill proverbs.

[–]SaharaFatCat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Depends on the definition of date. I will never marry. Who cares for a good time? You both get something from it.

If you're not jealous... Enjoy it for what it is and move on. If you're jealous... Don't do it. Don't get her pregnant.

[–]DatingTank0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's like the difference between being fat in the United States and being fat in Ethiopia.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Its about probability really,

A slut is most likely unable to stay in a ltr due to pair bonding issues

Sluts also usually have mental health issues

High chance she will cheat on you

Shes probably an alpha widow

Shit like this, its not so much that shes taken lots of cock, its really that the taking of lots of cock is a the physical manifestation of underlying issues and certain undesirable character traits.

[–]DeborahBinLaden0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What more do you think “getting serious” will bring you other than the sex and awesome personality you’re already experiencing..?

[–]dani0980 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I personally don’t give a fuck. I’ve been with some young women that gave some incredible blowjobs the obviously learned it somewhere. Then again I’ve been with women they were 26 through 28 years old who are very out of touch with her sexuality and it sucked

Like I said, personally I don’t give a fuck but you better know how to fuck

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I sure as hell wouldn’t. I may get a lot of flack for this but in order for me to enter a serious, genuine relationship with a women is if they’re a virgin. I guess that makes me a hypocrite, but so be it. The only sanctimonious way for a woman to give her body up to a man is through the act of marrying said man.

[–]HurricaneHugues0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Do it and find out. What's the use of us telling you why?

[–]Bruchibre0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So according to your stupid logic since I'm ugly I shouldn't seek to date pretty girls?

All these broke ass girls should not expect their bf to have money, all these tiny girls should not demand to date tall guys? Girls standards are unrealistic.

Why would you force yourself to date someone you are not attracted to? If you have abundance hey not having all the standards you want?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because I don't want to.

[–]SpinPlates0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because a key that opens a bunch of locks is a "master key"

A lock that opens for any key is just a shitty lock.

[–]mrpthrowa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


Men are designed to compete and spread their semen everywhere

Women are designed to find the best male and lock him down, or lock down a provisioner (aka beta)

We're different, not equal.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A key that opens many locks is a master key.

A lock that can been opened by many keys is a worthless lock.

[–]SalporinRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

First of all, a slut vs a player are two very different things. Being a slut is easy and being a player is hard.

But even if they were the same... So what?

This isn't the UN I don't have to be fair. Non-sluts make the best LTRs/wives so I would date a non-slut.

[–]CrimsonShiv0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

just date her, and date others, who gives a fuck

[–]xoxuv0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because no slut is a "former" slut.

Because men and women aren't equal. Women always are certain of being the mother of any baby, but the man can't biologically be certain, so men and women get opposite value from promiscuity.

Because a man follows his own interest. If she gives bad feelings, there is no point in being attached to her.

Those said, nobody tell you to not date a slut. Just don't get feelings.

[–]throw_this_far_awayy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

To me 100 is a lot for a man or a woman. How about thinking in terms of a slot machine. The previous spin has no bearing on the probability of hitting a jackpot on the next spin. So thinking this way means no matter how many times that machine has been spun it has nothing to do with your chances when it's your turn.

[–]Ghrev_2330 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All a girl has to do to be a slut is open her legs. Do you know how fucking hard it is to get some pussy?

[–]lapeparoja0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My thoughts are that your friend is a moron and you are one too, or a troll.

Imagine a woman saying:

"Is it ok if my boyfriend cries a lot and like to use thongs? After all i have done that too"

"is it OK if my boyfriend is gossipy , like to buy lots of shoes and it is not interested in a career, after all, I am like that too"

I can continue but I hope you get the point.

[–]Foolishoe-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I love sluts. Lots of prissy bitches around here find a used pussy to be the devils curse.

I judge a woman on her ability to fuck, her ability to behave, and her ability to not only avoid fucking up my life and her own life, but actually contribute and be a positive influence upon the world around her.

Anything less than average in all these things and exceptional physical beauty is a plate.

[–]setsuna0-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

What if I wasn't a player

[–]OilyB-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

The greatest value of the woman are her body and her ability to remain faithful. The greatest value of the man is NOT his body and his ability to remain faithful but his ability to pull his woman up to his level in the world. That's why men can marry down. Women only marry up.

Men's mission are not the same as women's missions. And thus their worth doesn't stem from the same values.

Besides, it's always your responsibility to choose someone who is really more trustworthy than yourself or equally trustworthy. Even if you're not trustworthy yourself. It's called self preservation. I just personally prefer cheating on her than her cheating on me.

Edit: Further more - girls who have been overly attention seeking, intimacy hungry, overly free with their body already have a problem. The sluttiness is just a manifestation of that psychological problem. Wanting sex is more of a biological need for young men. It's not firstly a psychological problem.

[–]cornbread07-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

All women are sluts. So it doesnt matter

[–]maljo24-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

You could not explain it because there is no difference. Obviously wrong to hold someone else to a different standard than you hold yourself.

[–]tuckastheruckas-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

TBH your count is concerningly high. Have you ever had a long term/serious GF? Have you ever cheated? When it comes to relationships, I think past counts are irrelevant, but if you or your potential partner has a history of cheating, then it's pretty concerning. If both of you are nymphos, it's gonna be a spicy relationship haha

[–]gamerbike-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If shes not damaged by those experiences, I don't see why not, If she could be a great mother to your children I don't see why not.

Real men don't ask for what they cannot provide.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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