Which tenet of red pill 'theory' do Blue Pillers have the most agreement with (if any)

sublimemongrel · 2017-10-31T21:21:05+00:00

Depends on the interpretation of the “RP theory” at hand. Probably that looks matter and women like masculine men. However if you twist that into “women only want Chad and 80/20 is literal” then no.

Bloops agree with concepts like “doormats are unattractive to women and people in relationships should have standards and boundaries” too, if you consider that to be “RP theory.”

theambivalentrooster · 2017-10-31T21:34:31+00:00

I agree that self-improvement is attractive to women.

I agree that assertiveness and success is attractive to women.

I agree that you should not allow yourself to be a doormat or tolerate abuse in a relationship.

I agree that sometimes dating is just a numbers game and you sometimes need a shotgun approach to find someone decent.

I agree that online dating, especially Tinder and Bumble skews in favor of women.

I agree there is a subset of men that are inherently unattractive to women and have to work hard to become attractive.

tempuserthrowaway5 · 2017-10-31T21:25:59+00:00

Just yesterday somebody linked me some theory about male disposability. I totally agree with and support ending male disposability in our culture, and I would march to prevent it in a heart beat.

The fact that men take on the most dangerous, health hazardous jobs with the least reward is a big issue. It needs more attention.

It's a shame to see something that serious and important sharing webspace with an article about how to get laid like a war-lord".

I want to add that serious and important articles about human rights....that everyone would agree on...need to be separated a little bit from the dirty jokes.

iminit77 · 2017-10-31T21:41:27+00:00

I like men with muscles and so do most women, so I think lifting is a good idea. A guy who lifts has a much nicer body than a swimmer or a runner (my opinion of course). Not that TRP invented lifting lol.

In general I think many TRP concepts have at least a little grain of truth to them, they're just way too hyperbolic and stretched to ridiculous extremes. Women like men who are confident, assertive, have boundaries, aren't desperate, and don't put them on a pedestal = women like dominant, aggressive assholes! Women don't like it when men bow down to them and shower them with excessive compliments, gifts, and praise = women hate it when you're nice to them. Women like men who are confident and take-charge in bed = don't ask, just toss them around aggressively and jam your cock in there with no regard to their pleasure. Women enjoy playful, witty, teasing banter = women love being insulted and knocked down a peg. Women in general have a tendency to.... = AWALT no exceptions.

TheChemist158 · 2017-10-31T21:45:26+00:00

Can we get a brief summary of red pill theory? I'll just use this post. Here's the points I largely agree with.

Race does not matter if you are rich. A lot of you are small-minded and stuck on the superficial, white-black-arab-indian-asian whatever, you have a certain perception of the world based upon your culture, perhaps where you live the white man is god, but know all racial barriers are overcome by power, money is power, if you're a 5' asian with a 2 inch dick that girls laugh at a 7 digit bank balance is sure to offset that. Focus less on your race and more on your success, your insecurities will get you no where. The real segregation is between rich and poor and that is even more true when it comes down to women, never forget that. Rich vs. poor is the only thing that matters in this world, white vs black, west coast vs east coast, all these other "beefs" are a minor, they are all symptoms of wealth inequality, the bottom line is wealth. Rich vs poor motherfuckers.
Always set boundaries, with everyone. Do not be a pushover. This is probably the most important bulletpoint here.
Men are not born they are created. Poverty, difficulty, heartache, oppression, pain - these are the things that make men out of boys. This is why you came to TRP. This is why boys come back from the military as men. Conflict and pain is what forges the masculine mindset, men cannot grow without conflict and learning from their mistakes, men need to apply their logical minds to problems which arise, elevate, and transcend their previous selves to become more powerful. Men are never born, they are always bred in the bloody fields of battle and war be it economic, mental or physical. A man is a soldier of differing kinds, a man has learnt to repress his fear so he may overcome and achieve.

I think this is a good point but not just applicable to men (duh, does anyone really think women don't suffer hardships?). Life sucks sometimes but if we can pull threw and learn from it we'll come out as a better, stronger person. Take every obstacle as an oppertunity to better yourself. Again, my major complaint is that this somehow shouldn't apply to women.

Your diet and exercise place a certain handicap on your ability to utilise your potential. The obese and those who eat poorly (but aren't necessarily fat) are typically low energy and thus waste a lot of time unproductively as they are not in the right mental state to get anything done. You need to take care of your body so then your body will allow your mind to implement it's will onto the world. You must be physically active so that you can mentally put your plans into action. Procrastination is the slow acting poison of one who lives a sedentary lifestyle. Physically active people make things happen in other areas of their life too. Exercise is invigorating. Stop putting it off. Do it.

Exercise and proper diet is good. This post is upselling it, but it's still good.

goatismycopilot · 2017-10-31T23:49:05+00:00

Watch what they do, do not listen to what they say (all of humanity), athletic men are attractive, women are often guilty of imposing social conformity on others for fairly shallow bitchy reasons, a lot of people are pretty basic and not very interesting, working out can be a very good idea.

Merger-Arbitrage · 2017-10-31T21:13:03+00:00

You mean RP-exclusive theories or anything TRP preaches (like fitness, which is not RP/TRP exclusive at all)?

[deleted] · 2017-10-31T23:14:57+00:00

Communication doesn't fix issues like BP says it does.
Most decisions are made pre-rationally. Rationalization only comes in after the decision was already made.
Romantic idealism (e.g. true love conquers all) sets people's expectations for relationships too high. As a side point I think Rpillers have just replaced the ideal of true love with true lust, so a lot of them are still idealists and haven't yet escaped their previous mode of thinking.
Women put too much responsibility for their happiness in relationships on men.

BlueRabbit21 · 2017-10-31T23:30:06+00:00

I'm mostly red-pilled about dating etc.

But I don't like terpers themselves, neither do I like the way that they go about doing things. If there is a moral way to get laid, don't go down the immoral path.

Saw this post about how you should "put your sexuality before her feelings" which went into detail about how if a woman was emotionally hurt (crying about an ex etc.) that you should take advantage of that circumstance and try to get laid, because she's too busy being upset to care.

SkookumTree · 2017-11-01T02:10:40+00:00

Physical fitness is a good thing, and lifting provides excellent returns in making you look physically fit.

trgwarn22 · 2017-11-01T02:16:38+00:00

So I'm 100% a blue piller and a feminist: I think red pillers are wrong in their overarching philosophy (note that I mean GENERAL philosophy), views of women as independent agents, and that they advocate many things that should never be done by anyone. (And in other cases which are illegal and immoral.) Many attitudes if adopted would make the world a worse place.

However, women as independent creative and professional agents contributing to society as adults are NOT the same women who respond to something sexually: treating colleagues exactly the same as you might a man, without adopting any red pill attitude toward them, can be correct and awesome. It is not necessarily going to turn them on, however.

This is quite controversial. In my actual estimation, Red Pillers are demonstrably correct that feminists on Reddit hide this fact. In fact, I got banned from feminism subreddits for mentioning that positive feminist heterosexual relationships can exist. (That links the comment I got banned for.) I said absolutely nothing controversial there, not even close.

Even though reddit's feminism subreddits have banned me, I actually fully agree with it, and haven't really found anything about feminism that I disagreed with. Red piller's just happen to be correct that feminism bans/hides/sweeps under the rug what women respond to sexually.

This is problematic for me because I only want to adopt those pieces of red pill sexual and dating advice which are not problematic: for example, it's not an issue to work out at a gym. That doesn't oppress women. (Unless the gym weren't open to them, or they were harrassed there or something - but I mean the fact of my working out doesn't oppress women, it's a non-issue.)

So clearly there are things that women respond to sexually, and other things that they don't. But Red Pillers are correct that, at least Reddit's feminists ban these discussions even when completely feminist.

I was pretty shocked to find this to be the case.

-AveMaria- · 2017-11-01T06:37:48+00:00

AFBB is true for some women, not all.

80/20 is statistically incorrect.

Some of the effects of the Wall and how it changes behavior are true.

Having an 'abudance mentality' is probably extremely important.

The divorce rate is a huge issue, and makes marriage quite risky.

Feminists are generally quite insane. However, they also have a point.

Most of TRP theories are partly true. However TRPers take these things to the extreme, and so these theories become absurd.

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Transmigratory · 2017-10-31T22:24:56+00:00

The ones which trigger them the least.

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2017-11-01T17:19:43+00:00

a lot of blue pillers still think that there is such a thing as game for some strange reason

rulenumber303 · 2017-10-31T22:48:48+00:00

That low value guys need to whine less.

Which tenet of red pill 'theory' do Blue Pillers have the most agreement with (if any)

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Title	Which tenet of red pill 'theory' do Blue Pillers have the most agreement with (if any)
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Date	October 31, 2017 9:02 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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