Q4RP: What are the most important feminist topics?

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2017-03-02T14:44:19+00:00

Intersectionality, pay gap, trans rights (for some reason), representation in video games and the arts, reproductive rights, numerical reprentatiin of women in certain fields, social justice issues rather than overt discrimination and procedural justice

prodigy2throw · 2017-03-02T14:24:13+00:00

Probably the shit thats happening to women in Muslim countries. They're a culture that literally treats women like cattle and we think it's a good idea to ship those people to the west

Alth12 · 2017-03-02T15:09:39+00:00

For Real? Most of it seems to be cherry-picking the privileges of men, and ignoring the disadvantages that come with it. Making harassment online or in the real life an issue that purely affects women and is directed solely towards women. Making sexism exclusive to men against women (see articles by many widely known feminists saying its impossible for women to be sexist to men), blowing things that are legitimate issues way out of proportion (like rape), targeting the statistically imaginary 'pay gap' and misrepresenting facts to allow for all the above (see the whole 1 in 5 are raped statistic that simply isn't accurate in the way they use it).

Truthfully I think its hard to sort the wheat from the chaff with feminism now. What is a serious issue that needs addressing, and what is just some overly vocal misandrist lunatic frothing at the mouth. The lunatics shout so loudly that I think any genuine message is drowned out.

alreadyredschool · 2017-03-02T13:55:53+00:00

LGBT bullshit

Equal representation in media/politics bullshit

Equal STEM bullshit

Abortion rights

Third world help (way to little happens)

GaiusScaevolus · 2017-03-02T15:43:49+00:00

Important by my definition or theirs?

Important topics for feminism by my standard would include;

Combating radical Islam and other cultural strains that encourage the rape and mutilation of girls and women.
Raising the standard of living of third world women with economic investment
Providing contraception as well as education to reduce rates of unsustainable pregnancy and STD's in low income areas.

Issues of importance to Feminists (defined as such because these are the topics most popular feminists and self identified feminists I know are working on/whinging about) seem to be;

Fuck Trump
Public funding for abortion and female contraceptive options in the first world.
Redefining culturally accepted terms to be more advantageous to radicalism and minimize women's responsibility.
Demonizing and shaming anyone who disagrees with this agenda.

give_me_shinies · 2017-03-02T14:04:30+00:00

Do you mean the most important issues Western feminists focus on, or what I believe should be the most important?

The most important in reality are "manspreading", "mansplaining", and any other "microaggression" that can be twisted into a gendered issue to generate clicks on Buzzfeed. Oh and equality of outcome, of course, because the exiting equality of opportunity isn't enough and women need to be forced into every single boardroom whether they choose it or not. It's not like this will cause even more sexism when everyone knows the women only get there by virtue of their gender or anything, no sir.

What I believe they should be focusing more on is the horrible and very real oppression going on in countries like Saudi Arabia where those oh so peaceful and loving Musliums are stoning women to death for adultery.

But hey we can turn a blind eye to that because it's only in the hadiths so that makes it okay, amirite OP?

DarkLord0chinChin · 2017-03-02T14:12:28+00:00

Using shero instead of hero and herstory instead of history. Also using She when gender is unknown

Letting people identify as trans helicopters.

Sticking it to the patriarchy.

Making up fake female great persons to brainwash people. Politics > Reality.

Decriminalization of fat and acceptance of big beauty

says_harsh_things · 2017-03-02T15:25:12+00:00

I have this slightly tin-foil hat-y idea that economists and governments have figured out that cheap immigrant labor is the best way to grow your economy because you reap the benefits of a strong labor force without having to pay them a reasonable wage, and they are all acting on it but pretending its for a different reason. If they came out and said "yeah, we are exploiting cheap labor" everyone would call them shitty for doing so. Instead they try to play the humanitarian card.

Also, there are a lot of undocumented immigrants in the usa ysing stolen ssns of dead people and kids to get jobs. They pay into social security but never collect it later. Someone in the government (maybe even both sides of the isle) have figured this out and thats why the status quo never changes.

questioningwoman · 2017-03-02T16:24:00+00:00

Body acceptance and fighting unrealistic media standards free and widely available birth control female self esteem pornography culture and sexual trafficking maternity leave more programs to help take care of babies women's rights inIislamic countries Fighting FGM around the world more prosecution for rape more job positions in STEM Gender roles and the rights to gender identification Neurodiverse women and erasure medicaid and medicare expansion financial support to women with health issues and disabilities fighting the influence of the manosphere fighting domestic violence and the mentality you should to abuse women

LeaderOfGamergate · 2017-03-02T17:55:27+00:00

How women are treated like sexual objects by society and the media and are encouraged to sexualised themselves at every angle. Yet at the same time feminists worship sexualisation and equate it with liberalisation and freedom and progressivism, even though it has placed immense strain on women's self-esteem and value to themselves.

This is why feminism is bad for both men and women, and no self-respecting woman who respects women's rights and women's self-esteem would ever call herself a feminists. Feminism reduces women to objects who must either act in line and redact their own individuality, or they have "internalised misogyny" for not wanting to be sexually liberated. If a woman wants to wait until marriage before sex and have children and a family, she is accused of wanting to return to the 1950's, no instead she must have a fulltime career and lots of free casual sex.

Feminism is the most anti-female ideology in history. Its a disgusting hate ideology.

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HitchensTwoPointOh · 2017-03-02T14:57:30+00:00

I think the ease, access, and removal of stigma from abortion is the only relevant fully feminist issue that doesn't boil down to a victim hood competition oppression Olympics among people that would rather complain than work harder.

Now outside of the west there are a loooooot of issues and needs for feminism but that's a separate issue.

dicklord_airplane · 2017-03-02T15:32:11+00:00

I live in the USA. I'd say the most important feminist issue is access to abortion and affordable birth control because the republican party is still trying to outlaw abortion and disband government programs that might provide inexpensive birth control. This affects just about every fertile citizen.

I think the campaigns for sexual assault awareness have done a lot of good. i grew up in Texas, and the term "rape culture" was applicable. normally i don't like using the term because it doesn't apply to western culture as a whole, but some subcultures and locales are rapey as hell and it disgusts me. The vast majority of men don't commit sexual assault, but the few that do need to be recognized and rehabilitated. i'm glad that people are speaking up about it.

parental leave after birth birth should be a guaranteed social benefit, not a point negotiation with employers. it's ridiculous that this is still an issue in the USA.

DucksCanDance · 2017-03-02T16:58:28+00:00

reproductive rights
rape crisis at colleges
mansplaining
man spreading
video games
fat acceptance

PurpleBanner · 2017-03-02T17:51:08+00:00

Op, what positive thing has feminism brought to the west?

lollygagyo · 2017-03-02T19:29:48+00:00

Reproductive rights, sexual assault, wage gap, intersectionality etc

IIHotelYorba · 2017-03-03T00:05:36+00:00

None, using feminism to help women is equivalent to using Scientology to help people's mental issues. It's pseudoscience motivated by dogma that expends most of its energy maintaining its own reputation.

If you want to help women only evidence can identify problems and only concrete action can help you. Navel gazing about patriarchy conspiracy theory or lying to people about the wage gap myth is pure egoic masturbation.

[deleted] · 2017-03-03T16:14:36+00:00

Female genital mutilation

Child/teen girl marriage

Right to drive cars

Typhoon_Ashbite · 2017-03-03T19:35:12+00:00

Nothing. Feminism in many ways is a secular religious cult.

Just like religion, feminism has no real answers to anything - Merely blind faith and abstract concepts taken to the point of absurdity to fit their world view.

Anything feminism claims to be important can be addressed by something far superior, just like how anything religion claims to be important can be addressed by something far superior.

Title	Q4RP: What are the most important feminist topics?
Author	BiggerDthanYou
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Date	March 2, 2017 1:53 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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