CMV: the success of obese women with healthy men on Tinder disproves the common Bluepill meme that incels have excessively high standards for sex partners.

It's become a cliché here on PPD that a Bluepiller will claim that men who have trouble getting laid are obviously aiming their scope too high, and should try to find someone more girl-next-door.

The assumptions are:

• The incel suffers from tunnel vision and thus can only notice the beautiful, unattainable women in his environment.

• There are homelier women in that environment who, given the chance, would become the incel's lover, if that incel would only notice them and deign to give them a chance.

In my view the reality is this: there are homelier women all around the incel, this is true. But they have no interest in the incel. No matter how ugly the woman, she can always go to a bar and get a dude, a healthy-bodied dude. She can always go on twitter and have a match with a a healthy-bodied dude within 20 minutes, even if her profile pic is unflattering and honest.

If she waits a few hours, she can get an athletic, handsome-faced man.

Most incel men know this. They've tried tinder and failed to get matches. They've approached women in bars and got shot down. Incel men have tried lowering their standards, without any more success than going for sexy women.

I think we need a catchy one-word slogan for this misconception: something like "the Incel excessive standards delusion", only better.