Is redpill behavior judged differently when a woman does it?

buttlollipop · 2015-06-17T17:57:39+00:00

I am not familiar with your situation, but more generally speaking, I find it interesting that TRP is "amoral" until the topic comes around to something a woman does. Sleeping with a married woman? Fine. Cheating? Fine. Leaving your wife because she turns 30? Fine. Lying to women to get sex? Fine. All's fair in love and war!

But...a woman deliberately using her beta orbiters? Divorcing her husband for stupid reasons and trading up to a "better" guy? Scum of the Earth.

Either be amoral and non-emotional about everything or admit you care, seriously.

trpobserver · 2015-06-17T13:58:32+00:00

Is redpill behavior judged differently when a woman does it?

Yes. Men and women respond positively to very different things. An alpha male is hot, a woman who mimics an alpha male is irritating.

Women desire the chase and they desire a strong confident and independent man. Men desire the acquisition of sex to be as straightforward and simple as possible. A beautiful woman would not be less attractive if she just showed up to your door one day and said she wanted to have sex with you exclusively for the rest of your life.

So if she tries to play games or put you in the position of the chaser and is super overconfident its unattractive and comes across as bitchy.

This isn't about ethics, its about what works. Bitchiness will not net you the highest value male, because men with options will ignore you for nicer girls. Being super nice and sweet and kind as a guy will not net you the most attractive women with options, because they will ignore you for the more confident and aloof men.

Not sure if this is much a surprise to anybody.

wombatinaburrow · 2015-06-18T05:34:57+00:00

Everything is judged differently when a woman does it.

lbspredh · 2015-06-17T16:43:21+00:00

Take the genders out, it just looks like shit game from a TRP viewpoint and kind of a harsh thing to say and signs of a bad/abusive relationship from any other viewpoints

PetticoatRuled · 2015-06-17T23:43:45+00:00

You're holding a great mirror there.

Shows how irritating and childish so-called alpha behavior can be.

wonderingwhether54 · 2015-06-17T19:08:12+00:00

Wow. She's practicing the red pill on men. Hey, bro let your gf come on here, we need to get notes! /s

What? Don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot? That's what the red pill does to women, so why is he upset?

LeGrandDiableBlanc · 2015-06-17T20:18:44+00:00

I think the big difference is that women, being naturally better at emotional intelligence, pick up on most TRPesque stuff subconsciously. They just naturally fall into 'game' habits because they work, and women are usually smart enough to understand why (even if only subconsciously). It's almost Pavlovian.

Men seem to need to hash these sorts of things out into 'rules' and 'principals' to grasp them. I think a lot of the hyperbole (ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT) stems from that; men seem to need something firm (even if it technically isn't 100% true) to form a foundation, and then they can chip away at the nuance over time.

The publicity problem for men is thus twofold.

Learning game is a conscious effort, leading people to believe that men learning about game are maliciously manipulative.
Men have a harder time learning game, so are more likely to fuck up hard during the process (leading to CringePics like events). These huge fuck ups then become seen as the only result of game (because when men are successful at it, the other person doesn't notice anything).

ExpendableOne · 2015-06-19T16:02:34+00:00

Yes. Chauvinistic, manipulative, self-centered, dehumanizing(towards opposite sex) and emotionally abusive women are treated very differently than their male counter-parts because they are women. Men won't call them out on it, because they still want to sleep with them, and women won't call them out on it because it plays into their own misandric power fantasies. Sociopathic behaviour in women is often completely ignored, if not even glorified, because it is either taboo to criticize women in any way(holding them accountable for their actions is considered misogyny) or because it's regarded as "female empowerment"(sticking it up to those evil men). Isn't that one of the main motivations behind the red pill though? "Women do it so why shouldn't men do it too"?

haircombsnightmare · 2015-06-17T13:57:36+00:00

The lack of self-awareness is cringeworthy...

TheGreasyPole · 2015-06-17T13:43:02+00:00

Get rid of her.

She's trying to manipulate you for her own ends. No-one likes that.

She's also cocky with it, parading around out in the open, that speaks of a certain contempt too.

Crucially, she's not creating any additional desire in him for her by doing so either. So she's doing it wrong as well.

She's not making you hot for her. She's not building desire in you for her. She isn't adding any value to the relationship with her actions.

Fold this hand, be dealt another. More trouble than she's worth, even as a plate.

What did you expect us to say ?

drok007 · 2015-06-17T13:58:59+00:00

Yeah she's a failure. The dude is ready to bounce.

TRPACC · 2015-06-17T16:33:03+00:00

Women aren't judged for red pill behaviour (I don't think your example is red pill behaviour - its just the normal you go girl stuff that women egg each other to do).

Its out in the open and normal in female culture to the point people don't realize that red pill is nothing women aren't doing freely and without criticism.

Nazrath2112 · 2015-06-17T17:18:27+00:00

Cut it out like Cancer, it would be the same for a dude as well.

Do the answers here surprise you?

GaiusScaevolus · 2015-06-17T17:06:03+00:00

I don't think I need to go far to establish for you folks that when it comes to relationships, I can basically be Satan. That said, I've never out and out called a girl 'my puppet'. I would drop this girl as fast as humanly possible.

Then again, I wouldn't date me. But my approach apparently is effective, so who knows.

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alreadyredschool · 2015-06-17T13:39:41+00:00

I remember that thread, must have been one year ago that this has been posted.

Her behaviour is disrespectful and I would next her immediately.

Whisper · 2015-06-17T18:06:53+00:00

Is wearing a dress judged differently when a man does it?

A woman aping alpha male behaviour is a caricature.

prodigy2throw · 2015-06-18T19:47:15+00:00

TRP is catered for men and helps men become more attractive to women. Why would you thing a woman following TRP behaviour would be a good thing?

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Title	Is redpill behavior judged differently when a woman does it?
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Date	June 17, 2015 1:30 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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