The Red Pill, let's talk about temporary/permanent health problems.

lostmatt · 2015-05-23T21:59:08+00:00

Not seeing any great advice here yet so let me chime in.

I have Ulcerative Colitis. Good days, bad days.

Long story short -- minimize whining. If you are sick and have to cancel, bail, whatever -- state what you are going to do about it -- not how you FEEL. "I am sick, I have to leave". Or tell your lady to take care of you -- continue to maintain control of the situation.

Early on I caught myself saying out loud to my partners that I was feeling ill, but wouldn't leave or pace around like an idiot and whine and complain.

You can certainly add some humor to it all - it lightens the mood.

TL;DR -- Maintain good attitude, frame control, be stoic.

Zamarski · 2015-05-24T00:34:29+00:00

I have an extraordinary rare form of cancer.

It's cancer of the eye. I was diagnosed and received initial treatment (laser!) in late 2013. In late 2014 the cancer came back and my right eyeball was removed.

I still date the womenz. I never, ever complain to them about my likely fatal condition. Hell, the eyepatch looks awesome! Men have to show strength even while staring death in the face. Yes, that sucks but it is the reality on the ground. Red Pill wisdom is all about the realz over the feelz.

nodiggity9721 · 2015-05-23T21:36:50+00:00

I have Crohn's, although its more of a "had". So, Remicade, best thing since sliced bread, talk to your doctor about it. Next thing, which is a huge, huge, huge problem solver. Drink loads and loads of water, loads, it just fixes so many problems. Third, de-stress your life, listen to more music, work out, smoke weed for all I care. Get more sunlight, people run away from the sun, don't be those people. Lastly, never miss a shit.

RPaccount1000 · 2015-05-24T08:21:42+00:00

Med student/scientist here. One thing this sub tends to fail to understand is that there ARE genetic limitations to what we can do. There is an attitude of "you can do ANYTHING, so if you aren't it's because you're a PUSSY." While we can change somewhat, we also have to face the reality that we all do, in fact, have limitations of varying degrees. We understand that not everybody can be as smart as Einstein, no matter how hard they try, but we don't seem to understand that not EVERYBODY can get huge and ripped (don't try to bullshit me, I know the science on this) or change their personality entirely. Some people can change a lot, others can't, and believe it or not, genetics has a big role in that (again, don't bullshit me that it doesn't because the science is pretty clear. If you disagree, do a review of the literature instead of downvoting or talking shit in reply to this post).

The reality is that, unfortunately, you have a condition that will likely be a problem for the rest of your life. First off, sorry man. That's a bad time, but it's not your fault (regardless of what the many "you can do ANYTHING" people would say). Second, keep trying your best to find a way to minimize/deal with it. Do your best, but again, understand that the body has limitations.

As for the ladies, this is likely to be a problem. I like the advice of not whining about it, but you also have to be realistic by understanding that many women will not be down. Do yourself a favor and give potential LTRs a long test-drive before you get attached to them. Look for warning signs that they aren't down and make sure they get the idea of what it will be like to be with you once you're in a LTR (test them, slowly, of course, but tests will give you an idea of how they react). If she shows signs that she's not down, next her (or plate her) because that won't work out in the long-run. Be realistic about the cards you've been dealt in life, and be realistic about how a woman reacts to those cards. Also, prepare yourself mentally: even if she's been great, she might change one day. People bullshit about helping people and doing the right thing, but we all know at TRP that the reality is that's all wishful thinking and bullshit. It ain't nice, but this is the real world: do the best you can with the cards you've been dealt, and never forget that the world is actually very unforgiving.

wasthereadogwithyou · 2015-05-24T01:33:31+00:00

Ever hear of fecal transplant? It might be worth trying.

hawke34 · Thu Jan 1 0:00:00 1970 UTC

Hey OP,

I was diagnosed with IBS as well. I was prescribed Dicyclomine to help with it. The Dicyclomine alleviated symptoms, but did not solve the core issue. I spent two years trying to come up with an answer, and in that timeframe I managed to cure 95% of the IBS issues I was having. I still have small attacks, but they occur rarely (~5 times per year.) Although the following may seem unorthodox, I have found that it has worked for me.

First, we must understand that IBS is not a disease, or an infection, it is a syndrome. This is doctor-speak for "we haven't a fucking clue what's going on, but something appears to be wrong with your tummy." Second, we must understand that the gut has more nerve cells than any other part of the body, excluding the brain. It is, in fact, more neurologically sophisticated than a rat's brain. Understanding this, we can conclude that IBS is not just a physical issue: there are underlying neurological issues going on as well.

The following combination of treatments helped for me:

Eliminating trigger foods. Although trigger foods may seem random, over time, with enough observation, you can notice the correlations. Dairy, alcohol, grapes, cucumber seeds, soy, and eggplant were all triggers for me. Not all of them were 100% reactionary: dairy only caused issues over a certain consumption threshold, and grapes only caused issues when eaten in absence of other foods. Which brings me to point 2:
Varying the foods I was eating. A meal for me would consist of two things, such as rice and chicken, or a sandwich with fruit. When I increased the diversity of each meal, symptoms decreased substantially. If I ate rice, chicken, salad, toast, and grapes together, the grapes would not trigger any issues. Have, at minimum, three different food groups in everything you eat.
Eliminate any dependencies on addictive substances, such as tobacco, marijuana, or coffee. Strangely enough, marijuana was a huge trigger for the IBS. I believe it's because it increased my body-awareness, therefore my sensitivity, and mentally I would exacerbate the issue by becoming self-aware of it.
Exercise regularly. This should be a given. If you aren't already lifting, start.
Protect the integrity of the central nervous system (CNS). I started going to yoga regularly, and this helped tremendously with the IBS. All of your nerve endings, in some way, connect to the CNS. If the structural integrity of the CNS is weak, you will have bad posture, poor breathing, and low back pain. These three things increase anxiety, reduce oxygen intake, and damage the relationship between the abdominal and thoracic cavities. The following is an excerpt from "Yoga Anatomy" by Leslie Kaminoff :

"The thoracic and abdominal cavities [are like an] accordian stacked on top of a water balloon... during an inhalation, the thoracic cavity expands its volume. This pushes downward on the abdominal cavity, which changes shape as a result of the pressure from above... the quality of your breathing has a powerful effect on the health of your abdominal organs" (pg. 5-6)

By strengthening the CNS, you will breath deeper, have better posture, and improve your low-back strength. This, in turn, will reduce pressure on the abdominal organs, and also massage the abdominal organs due to the thoracic shape change that's occurring.

If you have particularly bad posture, I highly recommend seeing a chiropractor for six months. 80% of chiropractors are snake-oil salesmen that don't understand what they're doing and are actively scamming their patients. This is because chiropracty is not as well regulated as other medical professions. The other 20%, however, will help improve your posture but also repair any issues that your spine may be causing by pressing into your digestive organs or a connected organ. Let me explain: if your spine is out of alignment, it may be placing a lot of pressure on any one of your internal organs, which in turn are placing pressure on your gut. If we return to the analogy of the rat-brain gut, you can see how this is an immediate issue: imagine, for instance, if somebody was constantly pressing on your head. It wouldn't feel good at all, and over time, you would develop a migraine and eventually more complex neurological disorders. This is an immediate structural issue than can be resolved with chiropracty. If you live in New York, please let me know, and I will forward you to a seasoned, well-respected chiropractor.
This isn't so much a tip for improving your condition, but a note for what didn't work for me. I found that probiotics didn't help at all in alleviating symptoms. I went to a naturopath, was prescribed probiotics, took them for 6 months regularly, and there was no change.
Finally, remember to sleep, and sleep well. Do whatever it takes to ensure you have a good night's rest, every night.

Please send me a message if you have any additional questions. Legal disclosure: I am not a doctor, and this is not professional medical advice. Personal disclosure: the doctors didn't do shit for me, and had no idea how to fix the problem.

dsrpta · 2015-05-23T21:53:31+00:00

Could be gut biome related.

The alcohol method is probably NOT the best way to do this as another person has stated. I'd go the antibiotic method which kills off most of the gut biome and then you can supplement a large amount of probiotics from supplements or good yogurts.

Alternatively, the fecal transplant.

Here's an example of the power of the fecal transplant going the wrong way because the patient got one from an obese woman: http://www.bbc.com/news/health-31168511

Could be FODMAPs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FODMAP

Paleo works because of elimination of most FODMAPs from diet. Gluten sensitivity may or may not be a thing. The science is still out.

In particular, elimination of FODMAPs has shown to improve -- to a limited extent cause there aren't enough RCTs yet -- IBS specifically: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24445613

Edit: more on FODMAPs and IBS. General consensus is low FODMAP diet improves IBS in approximately 70-85% of patients.

tpris · 2015-05-24T01:01:05+00:00

http://selfhacked.com/2014/05/04/elimination-diet-safest-foods-people-sensitive-everything/

PlanB_pedofile · 2015-05-23T23:54:49+00:00

No advice on IBS (I'm not a doctor ) but living with a chain around your body such as a genetic disease sucks ass.

It sucks because no woman sympathizes with weakness and having those chains slow you down compared to others who don't have them.

My first wife left me because of my depression. I learned first hand how disposable men are and why many men commit suicide. The depression was like having a 70lb backpack lugging around all day. I couldn't take it off and it sucked. Felt really cheated that my full potential is chained down by this thing.

I hit up the manosphere. Learned the biological truth. Accepted such truths and I went into the world knowing full well that I have the weight to carry.

Atlas must carry the world. We as men do the same. Our burdens don't become lighter, we have to muscle through them and as for women... well all women are like that and we just have to deal with their hypergamy.

Speaking of women, ever notice how broken they are? Damn I'm glad I can muscle through my illness while a woman uses hers as a summons for white knights and orbiters.

IllimitableMan · 2015-05-24T01:06:49+00:00

OP do you have trouble concentrating/constant fatigue despite adequate rest/relatively good diet??
Do you have skin conditions, eg: eczema, persistent dandruff, seb derm, acne, rosacea etc?
Do you have issues gaining or losing weight despite a high or low calorie diet and rigorous exercise regime?

If so, you probably have a gut flora imbalance and suffer from candidiasis. Candidiasis is not recognised as a condition by conventional doctors, but then they aren't perfect. They can't cure IBS or any of the skin conditions I have just mentioned, they simply throw steroid creams and antibiotics at it, which fuck you up even more, and then they just tell you to eat well, be hydrated, moisturise, avoid sugar and exercise. Things you'd do if you weren't ill and gave a shit about your health anyway. Conventional advice. They're fucking useless. That won't fix your crashing energy levels all the time either. Reducing carbs/gluten will help marginally, but you will still feel randomly drained for no logical reason.

If this sounds like you, let me know, I think I figured out what the fuck causes all this nonsense and how you can fix yourself up. It's a systemic issue, so I suspect IBS is the tip of the iceberg. You probably have something else wrong with you that you don't realise is connected to the IBS, or simply neglected to mention.

There are lots of diets out there that help marginally, they are strict as fuck and lighten symptoms, eg: help regulate bowel moevements (high fibre) or reduce bloating (peppermint tea) but they don't fix the problem. It's just temporary relief.

Health is the foundation to self-improvement and good living. Try doing a bent over row or squatting when bloated. Try writing an essay or report when you can't concentrate, or getting a work out in when you feel completely drained regardless of will and ambition to get it done. Shit's a bitch.

CopperFox3c · 2015-05-23T22:26:13+00:00

Every man has a weakness of some sort. TRP, or being "alpha" for that matter, is not about being perfect.

So you have a chronic illness ... nothing you can do about it. But what you can do is work harder in other areas of life: lifting, career, etc. Focus on building your strengths, and minimizing your weaknesses.

And last off, don't be ashamed or hide from your weaknesses. Don't feel sorry for yourself, and don't expect anyone else to. But you know what, they're not fucking perfect either. Don't put them on a pedestal.

redpillthrower · 2015-05-24T01:14:32+00:00

Have you tried or read the autoimmune protocol (the paleo approach is the name of the book) by the paleo mom? As someone who suffers from auto immune disease (sounds like that is what you have) i can say i have gotten 50-75% relief and i haven't done everything that is within the realm of possiblity for me.

RPmatrix · 2015-05-24T08:45:29+00:00

once a woman make a commitment to a guy they think is a catch, they tend to stay very staunch as long as whatever the 'issues is' doesn't fuck up her life and dreams too much, and if it doesn't and you see her as often as you want and she's happy with that, I wouldn't worry

I get onto to the dietary advice, as a young dr you've spent so much time and energy on so many other things you've probably never given a great deal of thought to the food you consume

As you are what you eat, do so ;)

rabidmonkey1 · 2015-05-24T13:10:09+00:00

Did you try a fecal transplant? No, I am not joking.

hibloodstevia · 2015-05-23T21:25:50+00:00

Eat a 100 percent strict paleo diet and your IBS will go away. And I don't give a fuck if medical science agrees, I'm about what fucking works.

Medical science has its gaze firmly affixed to the past, don't be one of those guys.

If you want to argue with me, first go pick up a 20 year old medical book in your specialty. Detail how many things are wrong in each and every page that is now considered wrong or dangerous.

Testoste_RON · 2015-05-23T22:27:16+00:00

Dude I just sent you a PM about helping your IBS

Mattpilf · 2015-05-24T00:02:00+00:00

I have a chronic illness caused by a connective tissue disorder. In pain everyday in most joints and powering through is the worst course of option for me because it only makes my injury worse. Pain medication is dangerous and basically a mixed bag of long term help. It stopped me from doing my three favorite hobbies and seriously affected my social life. Needless to say depression would have easily set iin.

The key for a chronic illness is determination, discipline, and optimism. You have to have a clear goal in what you want in life and what's important. Try to find out what triggers it, no matter what diet it takes will help. If it's a crazy diet at first you have to stick with it. While you'll probably never get a 100%, or maybe even 50%, each bit helps. There's often no magic bullet, a 10% here and 10% can often lead to diminished and more manageable symptoms.

You also need to learn how to cope and manage. Learn to figure out what you can do on bad days instead of just canceling everything.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-05-24T00:12:20+00:00

I've had the same problems as have millions of others.

My belief (no absolute proof) is that the cause is Glyphosate. (used heavily on GMO crops)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate

Glyphosate is the DDT of our time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT

...wheat and soybeans are in our diet and they pass on Glyphosate which cannot be broken down by ordinary cooking.

The effect is like smoking only it's your intestines that get inflammed rather than your lungs.

Smoking actually doesn't cause cancer... but the tar alters the ecosystem of germs in your lungs to a different set which create perpetual inflammation. (smokers cough). The cancer is actually caused by the upset ecosystem.

IBS is a long term inflammation of the intestines caused by Glyphosate disrupting your normal gut bacteria.

Millions are being effected, but it's not a direct cause and effect. Glyphosate creates the disruption, but not the actual problem which is an excessive immune response.

Glyphosate destroys the "good" bacterias and allows the "bad" to grow.

Remove Glyphosate contaminated foods (wheat and soybean) and you will possibly get better.

Ashwagandha seems to help. I buy the powder and mix it into oatmeal pancakes:

http://www.chopra.com/ccl/ashwagandha

It lowers your stress and increases testosterone... Red Pill advises using this while lifting too.

ECoast_Man · 2015-05-24T01:04:08+00:00

I have a chronic eye issue that is not the sort that can be 'fixed' with a pill or whatever, and it's also one that isn't 'sick day' worthy. It requires massive in take of omega 3 and such.

I struggled with this, because I always wanted to wake up early and lift and such, but I would wake up with literally bloodshot eyes, and in a psychosomatic way, I would want to stay in bed. This took months of cutting out alcohol, eating a very specific diet, etc.

No lesson, it just took a lot to get over, and I struggled immensely with it.

Good luck.

bigmfkr · 2015-05-24T08:36:47+00:00

My testosterone is low. Not low enough to warrant TRT (most doctors just say BS like "350 at 29 is ok"), but enough to hurt my libido, drive to succeed, and overall quality of life.

I eat healthy. My diet has plenty of healthy fats. I take a shitload of vitamin D. My thyroid is fine. I tried all test boosters, guess how that worked.

I lift. I lost 20 kilos, around 12%bf now. Didn't help. HCG doesn't help much. Gonna try clomid, but I really don't know what to do. Shit makes me even more depressed.

gweneverexoxo · 2015-05-25T02:01:56+00:00

never whine to gf. hell, dont even let her know you have something wrong with you. never show weakness. youll just be pushing her to branch swing.

on a side note, maybe is food alergies? this may be off the mark, but try a 2 month long diet removing the common alergy foods: dairy products/wheats/nuts etc. if you see ibs lowering, then cobtinue it another 2 months. alot of people dont know thy have an alergy because its not an obvious symptom. i used to on occation get massive stomach problems every 2 months or so, causing me to vomit and have diarrhea for an entire week. didnt figure out what was causing it till i decided to cut all dairy products from my life. no more ice cream sadly. but works.

Source1311 · 2015-05-26T01:03:51+00:00

Qigong, Iodine, and Enemas Probiotic/Coffee (twice a week). Will sound like quackery to most.

AlphaManliness · 2015-05-26T12:51:51+00:00

This https://archive.is/0s47J and Psyllium cured my IBS. Say no to carbohydrates. Go Keto

Zoe_the_biologist · 2015-06-07T16:07:37+00:00

This worked for a friend: a 3-4 day fast with just water and black coffee, followed by a KETO diet. If he keeps it under 20-40gm total of carbs a day and not to many in one sitting he is ok.

If he eats carbs or drinks booze it comes back with a hurry. Diet soda causes problems too. So he has to stay low carb forever, or deal with IBS.

If you google KETO and IBS there are others who have had various levels of success.

Darthstacker · 2015-05-24T01:27:14+00:00

I don't mean to sound like an a-hole here but why does your GF even know you have IBS? I have it (not as severe as yours it's seems) but my wife doesn't know about it. Why not tell your girl you can't see her because you are too drunk to drive from the titty bar to her house? She'll pretend to be pissed for a few days and then her panties will fly off when you don't call her to apologize.

You are a frick'n catch of a lifetime being a Doctor. Start believing this......and lift.

ThrowyMcGruder · 2015-05-24T15:30:32+00:00

Long time IBS sufferer here with a similar story to your own (tried everything to no avail).

A few months ago I was reading something entirely unrelated when I saw something about zinc supplements and just completely randomly looked up what the hell we even do with zinc.

One sign of zinc deficiency was diarrhea which, in turn, made it harder for the body to absorb zinc.

So I started taking zinc supplements and I'm pretty much healed.

I'm aware that IBS seems to be the medical terminology for "we don't know what the fuck is wrong with your guts" and that everybody seems 100% sure that they know how to solve it, but at least this one is an almost instant cure with no ill side-effects.

I take one 25mg tablet every other day and have been doing so for about four months.

H42 · 2015-05-24T10:03:20+00:00

IBS is usually the result of an imbalanced bowel biome. Your gut bacteria are out of balance.

Get your doctor to give you a 10 day hella course of Antibiotics designed to kill everything in your gut.

When the 10 days are up drink, in 4 or 5 hours 750ml of 40% hard liquor. This will finish killing your gut biome.

Next day, while massively hung over you need a poop transplant. Get a fresh pile of shit from a thin friend, put it in a throwaway blender and zip it up with 98F warm water. Take this as an enema to repopulate your bowel. Never use shit from a fat person to do this.

I'm not kidding. Google this topic to see other people's results with this type of transplant.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2015-05-24T12:30:32+00:00

As a late 40s guy, plating and mating with 20-25 y.o. girls, if they ever find out anything is wrong with me, physically, I acquired said injury while saving a kitten from a house fire.

Scar on my arm? Saved a kitten from a house fire.

Broken bone from years ago*? Saved a kitten from a house fire.

Burn scar on my other arm? Saved two kittens from a house fire.

I recently had a problem on my back--could have been pre-skin cancer thing. It was below my shoulder blade and therefore not anywhere I could check it myself. I had also been doing some work behind my house, and it's tick season. So I went in to see my doc to see if I had any passengers or needed anything scraped off. He asked why I didn't have one of my girls look at it for me. Oy.

None of them is a medical professional; and
When you ask a 22 y.o. hottie if she wouldn't mind checking out that potentially gross thing on your back, what she hears is, "Hey, would you mind helping me change my colostomy bag?"

Never give the hamster something to 'ham' about....

*One of the plates noticed that my right ankle doesn't extend completely. It otherwise has no impact on anything, i.e. no limp or anything.

tracker2208 · 2015-05-24T09:30:33+00:00

Just out of morbid curiosity I think you should try some extreme measures. The fecal transplant has already been mention. Then you try the raw paleo diet. That means raw meat (get pasture raised, not factory farmed meat). Then go a step further and eat nothing but rotten meat. Yes, there are people whose diet consist of rotten meat, and they do it for health reasons, and they don't die. Then I'll set up a google alert for "idiot tries to cure IBS by eating rotten raw meat, dies". If you stop posting and my alert goes off I'll let everyone know the rotten meat diet is full of shit.

Sources: http://www.vice.com/read/this-guy-has-eaten-nothing-but-raw-meat-for-five-years

Same guy eating raw meat, brains, and a goose egg he buried in compost.

beginner_ · 2015-05-24T14:37:42+00:00

Social anxiety in my case. No advice really. You can say you have it and explain what it means but don't expect they will understand you. But then you can say the reason why you can't do xyz and if she gets pissed all the time or has other negative reactions, well you know she is not the right one for you.

Only solution is to not whine about it. Just state factual you can't go to that event because of you IBS tonight.

And be prepared to suffer from it your whole life. It's not for and only consolation might be your still better of than like 90% of human beings living in slums and their own shit and garbage.

favours_of_the_moon · 2015-05-24T15:51:23+00:00

A condition like this can be treated MUCH more easily (and I dare say effectively) with traditional medicine.

Get outside the box and take responsibility for your own health. Don't just accept what the lab coat says as the final word.

http://www.amazon.com/Calm-Stomach-Teapills-Plum-Flower/dp/B00OTX1KT4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1432482600&sr=8-2&keywords=ping+wei+san

Discomposure · 2015-05-24T23:12:00+00:00

I was diagnosed with Bronchitis at age 18, I had never smoked and it is rare to get Bronchitis at 18 years of age. I learned that there are somethings in life that you cannot change and that you just have to learn to accept.

edwardhwhite · 2015-05-23T22:02:47+00:00

Eat less. Fewer shits. Helped me. It goes down after a while.

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