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Always save your text conversations, record conversations

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July 25, 2018
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My friend was recently talking to a friend of his sister's on Facebook Messenger. They had planned to hang out. She then started getting really sexual. He ended up telling he wasn't looking for that at first and was no longer interested.(He's bluepill in some ways, hopeless romantic type)

Anyway, she didn't take kindly to rejection(AWALT) and ended up making a fake Facebook account pretending to be him. She messaged herself a bunch of fucked up stuff. Messages including; him begging for sex, him looking like a creep, threats of rape and harm and extremely sexual shit. She screenshots the messages, along with his Facebook profile and makes a post to spread "awareness" about him.

He finds out from his sister and many of his friends via them shaming him. Luckily, he had saved the messages and was able to show him rejecting her. She wasn't able to verify the messages were from his profile either. He cleared the air and his name with everybody. Now she's crying about invasion of privacy for him sharing the messages. She also is claiming he raped her(even though they have never met in person). LOL

Save your messages. Document everything. Record conversations in person with your phone(I always do this). Don't be a victim.

Update: He is deleting his Facebook and is now swallowing TRP.


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Title Always save your text conversations, record conversations
Author hiddenpleasures123
Upvotes 991
Comments 174
Date 25 July 2018 11:55 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/51626
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/91r5y8/always_save_your_text_conversations_record/
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[–][deleted] 252 points253 points  (46 children) | Copy

Solid advice.

I actually have my phone automatically sync all my text messages with gmail for this exact reason.

6 years ago I dumped a LTR so she made some false rape accusations to get back at me. Now I record everything.

The last LTR I dumped (earlier this year) threatened to do that too, knowing how much the first one fucked me up. I basically told her "Good job, you know how to push my buttons. You also know how paranoid I am about that, and how I record everything. If you make your accusation, I'll publish every conversation we've had and let the world see how dishonest you are. It won't be my reputation that gets destroyed. Your move."

She decided to drop the threat.

[–]throwawaaay87181 points182 points  (33 children) | Copy

Your mistake with bitch #2 was telling her your weakness. Don’t ever give women leverage.

[–]zboo1h122 points123 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. Stop snitching on yourself.

[–]CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK90 points91 points  (13 children) | Copy

Everyone has weaknesses, and women are evolutionarily wired to find them in men. Its amoral, it just is. They will eventually find some by trying many angles of attack over years.

So give fake weaknesses. Make honeypots. Lead her to believe you have insecurities you don't. When your girlfriend or wife is trying to destroy you and break you so she can convince herself to dump you or whatever then she will use it as the nuclear option and it wont work.

She will be furious at you because she lost power she thought she had over you. But eventually she will like you more because you are stronger than she thought.

If she screams "you lied you said you were insecure about X but you arent" then you say "but I am, what you are saying is hurtful and nasty" in an unemotional way. Eventually she will be arguing the case that you are stronger than you say you are and you will be denying it.

Display weakness when strong and strength when weak. Never tell anyone you are doing it though.

[–]expansion10114 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe even say "what you are saying is hurtful and nasty" with a smirk on your face. Would give away the whole allure for a one-time shot though.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah youre right, it would expose your own hand. Part of the game of power is to lie so convincingly that you go into the lie with an actors mindset; to act as if you were really that person. So acting is so critical. Especially in a courtroom, if you are ever in one. Imagine what would happen if you smirked at the judge.

[–]Nocryingok5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Lol great post. This is called "balancing your range" in poker. Not exactly ALWAYS showing strength when weak or weakness when strenght, but doing so in a way that your opponent can't read you with confidence.

[–]CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is very interesting to me, thank you. I'm going to read more about Balancing Your Range.

[–]Nocryingok2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Balancing your range (in poker) should only be done against an opponent that is good enough to evaluate the cards you play in a certain situation (your range) and then exploit you.

If an opponent is stupid and only thinks on a shallow level (ex. he bet therefore he must have a strong hand), then you should ignore balancing. This translates to dating: with stupid girls, your best action would be just pretend to be super alpha bro all the time, and they won't realize you're full of shit. But smarter girls will notice that you're being a tryhard.

[–]frooschnate0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is my problem when I teach my friends poker and they start playing for a lil while.

They’re so aloof it’s hard to read them.

[–]RedPilledRoaster1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Is this shit even worth it. I just give plates a fake name and never have them over at my house, and only use snap

[–]CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its only for long term relationships. If you are sticking with plates then just get a new one when they are cruel.

[–]JunKunX 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

You use a fake name on snap? You don’t use plates to boost Instagram preselection?

[–]fighter50211 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Literally Samson and Delilah. Just don't end up like Samson.

[–]FatStacks696928 points29 points  (2 children) | Copy

His mistake was dating a psycho who would even think of falsely accusing someone of rape. I've been in the game for while now and have never had a bad breakup because I didn't fuck bad people.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

I learned my lesson few months ago got into a LTR with a girl with BDP. It’s usually the BPD who try to hit you with false rape. BPD girls are bad people even when they try to be good they’re bad.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm actually convinced both of them had undiagnosed BPD.

[–]1Zanford10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

^ This is the cold hard truth right here. The worst thing you can do with a chick is let them know that some other chick got to you, and how.

[–]NewNombreWhoDis 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

What if it’s just some random chick, and not a bitch you’re sexually involved with?

[–]1Zanford4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Same. Tell a female coworker that you have a brittle ego when it comes to, I dunno, your educational achievements, and she might use that as ammo later.

Some humorously harmless 'weakness' is fine, as vulnerability game ("I was afraid of clowns as a kid lol" or 'wasabi makes me tear up like a baby')

[–]danO1O1O15 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

This is my biggest problem. I'm too honest, not just with women. I suck at poker and reveal my hand way too early or voluntarily.

Any book I should read on this? I've read the art of seduction but I need something that easier to digest so I can make it stick/i.e. with practice.

[–]Pooddit11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women use men's virtues of honor and honesty against them. These virtues do not matter to women.

[–]Nocryingok1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jiu jitsu was great to me regarding "back and forth games", where you need to rope-a-dope etc.

Realize that there's a game being played, and you don't HAVE to always expose your information when asked. Do it little by little, only to keep them slightly satisfied, and also when it benefits you.

I used to be 100% innocent and speak EVERYTHING that came into my mind. Nowadays I don't invent stories or lie to manipulate people, but I learned to SHUT THE FUCK UP when opening my mouth doesn't benefit me.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Absolutely this.

The story should end up with "and then the police fucked her and her career and her dating options up bad, so I don't think she'll be doing that again anytime soon haha".

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

100 years ago women like this would have been identified and institutionalized. It was a necessity since fathers and husbands were held responsible for the actions of the women under their charge.

[–]CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thats smart and I need to start doing this. What app do you use to do it?

I use a microphone watch to record audio all the time. Always turn it on in meetings with one or two women and no men. Always use it conversations like breakups incase there is a threat of revenge or blackmail or anything.

[–]Lib3rtarianSocialist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is that only a conventional watch with a microphone? Because fancier or digital ones aren't as preferable IMO.

[–]WorldNewPilla5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hey man, how do you make it sync?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I need to start synching too.

[–]WillMeatLover2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I actually have my phone automatically sync all my text messages with gmail for this exact reason.

What software do you use for this?

Similarly, what Always Be Recording software are people using for recording their phone calls?

I've been through a few apps and so far I hated them all. I am not using one currently for that reason.

[–]felipebarroz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

How do you record all phone calls?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

How do you link your texts and Gmail?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You're so lucky she wasnt a borderline. Borderlines never stop until you tie them up in bondage and make them a permanent sex slave in your basement and feed them twice a day. Its the only way they will ever shut the fuck up.

[–]griz3lda0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

pretty accurate description, but it isn't exactly a fate worse than death to have a sex slave. it makes me laugh how many guys on here break out the garlic and crosses when it comes to bpds when really their emotions are a billion times more manipulable than anyone else's-- just takes a light touch and strong personal boundaries. have dated several, with one now, & wouldn't date any other breed. yeah it's a hassle and they're not a good idea as NSA/fwb, but as longterm investments it's totally worth it to me. you just can't get soft or next thing you know you're fucking up. & don't live with one imho; you gotta be able to take breaks at will. they're actually the perfect example of that "women want to feel that you're immovable Shiva" business-- they have no emotional object permanency and always gotta be checking it. (ignore the wack formatting; having trouble with mobile.)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, your caveat of making sure you dont live with them is the most important part there. Like you said, you have to be able to take breaks at will to regroup yourself and collect your sanity and hold frame. If you live with a bpd, god have mercy on your soul. But god wont help, just get the fuck out of there.

[–]Rid2529364 points365 points  (19 children) | Copy

Posts like these make it a lot easier to swallow TRP

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 203 points204 points  (16 children) | Copy

Imagine had he stuck his dick in this girl...Holy shit.

[–]bengalegoportugues93 points94 points  (15 children) | Copy

Remmeber kids don't stick your dick in crazy!

[–]Kobinks67 points68 points  (9 children) | Copy

Also remember crazy don’t stick your dick in kids

[–]bengalegoportugues21 points22 points  (7 children) | Copy

I got banned in the sub of off my chest because of my coment what lmao

[–]muddynips10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

You’re better off. It doesn’t take much (I got banned for lurking here) and that sub never solved anything for anybody.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

I’m confused as to what lurking is

[–]muddynips8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

Being subbed and rarely commenting. Mostly just reading.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

So.. the majority of all Reddit users? I’m dumbfounded that’s bannable. I appreciate you explaining.

[–]Barbuhgurth14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

The red pill goes against the core reddit cuckery narrative.. maybe a mod over there needed a reason to ban him, and found our hes subbed to trp? I think it happens to T_D users as well

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tell me why the hottest bitches are crazy tho

[–]wetsd 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

But, but, it’s so much fun! I never thought she’d carve her name in blood in the hood of my BMW at work.

[–]bengalegoportugues1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus.. u dodge a bullet there buddy..

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

But crazy is just so much fun.

[–]jimmyjoejimbob0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Remmeber kids don't stick your dick in crazy!

If you do though, make sure that crazy doesn't know your real name, any of your friends, or where you live.

[–]Kushbushh20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

Meh, I agree with a ton of stuff here but this girl clearly has mental issues.

To say AWALT about this is pretty fucking dumb and just takes away from TRP as a whole.

[–]SoundwaveStarbelt12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

i think he only said AWALT about her not taking rejection well, right?

[–]The_white_whaler218 points219 points  (21 children) | Copy

FB is the ultimate waste of a man’s time.

[–]olinvomibo12314 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your positive deeds have been observed by forces unknown

[–]martian9433 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really depends on the use, but as most people use Facebook; no doubt.

[–]08Winchester3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Insanely true. Oh so insanely true.

[–]1Obediah_Stane2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Idk I really like my fuck buddies

[–]RPDunkleBomb 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

The memes tho...

Still a waste of time but a hilarious one.

[–]MarcosDomingues5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dunno what your talking about... FB memes are the worst

[–]trexgomez 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Been there. I rejected this one bitter vindictive bitch.

She had all the red flags from day 1 (Talked ill about her ex and always dropping white knight baits by sharing how he's still harassing her).

Once the stint was over, she took a screenshot of my flirty texts ( to which she flirted back), cropped out her own flirtatious response and when on to social media to share how I'm a predator.

By that time she got another social media white knight for her, backing her up. Any comment I dropped on that post was deleted because "It breaches her privacy".

I made an entire blog post of how this manipulative controlling bitch brought forth this event with elaborate screenshots. And then it settled down.

This disgusted me so much that I've been in a perpetual monk mode ever since. People legit started calling me and hurling threats. Disregarded my achievements in public. Never again.

Amen OP, never delete any conversation.

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

My first LTR called my parents and made up some shit about how I was feeling suicidal. My dad called me being weird as fuck. I finally called him out and asked him why he was being a weirdo on the phone. He told me what had happened and I tried denying it. He of course told me it's okay I don't have to hide it.(wtf)

All because she didn't get what she wanted for valentine's day she threw a fucking fit. She caused my family pain. It took me months to convince them I never said shit.

She was a manipulative cunt and it put me in monk mode for a while afterwards.

[–]BaGamman69 points70 points  (3 children) | Copy

This kind of revenge is as bad as revenge porn. Both are about attacking forever the dignity, and I find both disgusting.

A kinda similar story hapened to me in high school. I was tricked by 2 girls from my school and same class. They pretexed they needed my phone number for a "school party" that never happened. Naive me.

For a whole day, they spammed me with textes and phone calls and some were kinda sexual, while other were outright threatening. They managed to oversaturate my memory card with around 150 phone calls and 50+ textes. It could seem like a rather little number now, but remember textes used to not be free back in the days.I recorded everything.

Then, the next day, they started bitching about it, and even started to blackmail me. Well, I wasn't gonna play the victim in some sick girls play, I denounced them to the principal.

They started to deny it, but they couldn't change their phone numbers overnight, and they eventualy got kicked off school for a week. That's how I learned to record anything.

[–]PepelePeaux34 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

women's weapons of choice, poison or character assassination. Happened to me too.

[–]HiredMind20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

This kind of revenge is as bad as revenge porn.

It's much, MUCH worse, because it can have criminal ramifications.

[–]3n1g59 points60 points  (1 child) | Copy

> She also is claiming he raped her(even though they have never met in person).

This really is now their default go to to automatically win any argument.

Scares the shit out of me.

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy

That or they say you are sexist and 30 white knights flock to them.

[–]urbanoid26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bring a lawsuit, make precedent.

[–]warwolverinewarrior20 points21 points  (4 children) | Copy

ACR is great for recording phonecalls for Android(Idk about iPhone). I recommend it. Just lock the app so it doesn't close on you. Also back up to any cloud service.

[–]good-afternoon 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

If you're jail broken, AudioRecorder (fully updated through 11.3.1) can auto-record all your calls.

Also a note to check privacy statutes in your state! Some states require both/all parties to consent to recording, while some only require one party (you).

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Very true about consent. Just say they gave verbal consent beforehand. You're not trying to blackmail them or harm them with it. You're only trying to acquit yourself of alleged crimes.

[–]Flawless446 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Disable wifi calling on your phone though, as it sometimes screws up with those and won't record those calls.

[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

Sidenote: Not only should you avoid putting your dick in crazy, you should also stay away from crazy.

[–]gbdoragnic4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think this is obvious but this advice is to cliche to be meaningful because you don't know if she is crazy,

[–]AnAbsoluteSith1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really? I beg to differ. I read a lot of stories like this and others and I cannot comprehend how it is guys end up having relations with women like this. Like its one big surprise afterwards when she starts doing crazy shit like threatening rape. In my experience women doing shit like that have enough red flags present long beforehand. Makes me start to wonder if a lot of men just like to play roulette with psycho bitches.

[–]xx-Rain_Maker-xx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's actually not that difficult. The red flags are always there.

[–]magx0129 points30 points  (1 child) | Copy

The fragile female ego at work yet again.

[–]CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

He got lucky. She could have blocked your brother on facebook and said "I cant those chat logs any more because I deleted them all when I was upset". SOME women would take her side - and due to dictatorship of the intolerant minority and women-are-wonderful bias they would persuade everyone else and define the 'social truth'.

Your brother got lucky that this girl made obvious mistakes like accusing him of rape when they never met. If she was smarter and avoided overreaching she could have hurt him bad.

I was framed for this kind of thing and the girl was smart enough to ensure nobody talked to me. So I couldn't find out why lots of people had cut me out or were giving me silent treatment. The few bros I knew who were in the loop had been forcibly sworn to not tell me. It was extremely hard to reverse her damage. Close to 50 people were involved. This was at uni and she was more connected and well-networked than I. Most people didn't care about what was true or real - they knew there were negative social consequences for talking to me.

The crazy thing was that the girl herself who did it was really nice to me the whole time - I didn't realise she was the root of it all for a long time. I found out years later that I had "cheated on her and abused her". Well we never were dating, we both were explicit about that. She had just slept over at mine twice then she choose to sleep with a mutual friend and I stopped making an effort to contact her. But I still am facing consequences for this 5 years on - I saw one old friend on the street and tried talking to him and he pretended I didn't exist. Unbelievable.

[–]Hviterev37 points38 points  (10 children) | Copy

Every argument I had with women were recorded on my phone.

Can't tell you how enjoyable it is when she calls the police and you just start making coffee for the cops and she panics like "Why aren't you scared?" and you can just tell her that you have everything on tape.

I also tend to record consent when I can, or just the sex altogether which also displays that it was consensual.

Overall, there's really no reason to not record what you can.

[–]1Kurush5599 points10 points  (9 children) | Copy

How do you make sure you record audio for those encounters (not the arguments, the consent). I'd be pretty worried about the girl noticing

[–]rooolng17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

I use ASR: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nll.asr

You can make a quick widget to turn on/off recording. There is also support (not sure if it's pay or not since I bought the premium) to auto upload to the Cloud incase she trashes your phone (or the police)

[–]1Kurush5594 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You have done me a great favour. Thank you

[–]SexualBowelMovement1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I cannot up vote this enough.

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Consent is pretty easy.

You're not using the recording for harm or blackmail. Technically the recording was private(your phone is always recording) and your hand is being forced to acquit yourself from alleged crimes involving statements. Any cop or court is going to accept it and not question the consent of it.

Where consent and recording becomes an issue is where you publicly post it without their knowledge of you recording them. Even if it was unintentional or wasn't meant to harm.

Ultimately if anyone asks, she gave you verbal consent to record beforehand. It's her words against yours.

[–]Hviterev7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

If the girl is really submissive, I hand her the phone, I tell her what to say and to video tape her face while doing it. I usually make it a bit playful, like her giving me every right to do what I want with her.

If she's a bit of a brat, just go on your phone, turn on the tape recorder and turn your screen off, then include it in the conversation.

[–]mavindero 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Great great new app called Otter for recording voice that uses AI to make a text transcript. It’s brilliant. Use it.

[–]Hviterev0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's cool to take notes for yourself but I wouldn't trust a text transcript to proove innocence in court or to cops.

[–]notyourduck1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have a watchapp on my smart watch that starts the audio recorder on my phone. Looks like I'm just checking the time.

[–]acekilo19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

NEVER TRUST ANY WOMEN. ITS 2018!! 5 OF MY SOLDIERS ARE GETTING DIVORCE. 1 OF THEM HIS SPOUSE TOOK 40K AND BOUNCE. THE OTHER WIFE IS PREGNANT AND HES WITH ME IN KUWAIT. WHEN WILL FUCKING MEN LEARN MAN. I REALLY DONT FUCKING GET IT. IVE BEEN SEEING THIS SHIT FOR YEARS AND ITS LIKE MEN NEVER LEARN FROM OTHERZ MISTAKES. A WISE MAN IS WISE ENOUGH TO FUCKIN SEE. DAMN!!!

[–]alex_d_20162 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I feel.sorry for you and the others man :(

[–]daytonbull9010 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Don't stop there, invest in Dropcams.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain31 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or one of those little drones that follows you around recording everything. She'll probably claim that it raped her too, though.

[–]LongTrang1177 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

He needs to file charges ASAP.

[–]WarSport2239 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

If I have a son, I will literally be terrified of him growing up in this utterly fucked sexual marketplace.

I’m going to raise him so fucking red pill.....shit like this is just terrifying to ponder.

How many stories just like this are there that we haven’t heard of where the guy had no clue whatsoever & got his life totally destroyed?

Fuck modern society and the femcunts who enable shit like this.

[–]hearse2231 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I always used to think, why do Dads and Moms not want their sons dating or interacting with girls when they are younger? My mom used to give me such a hard time when I wanted to go over girls houses and shit.

Makes sense now, momma just knew how women work when they see a desirable young man with a promising future.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

And most importantly, hold frame.

[–]1Zanford6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Great advice.

He should pursue this further. He could probably get Facebook to ban her actual account (and banning a young woman's Facebook is about the best revenge you can imagine) for TOS violations. Maybe contact her parents to let them know etc.

He can do this all while being the Nice Guy and doing in the (legitimate) guise of "I can't be sure what lies your daughter has told you about me, so I need to clear the air and get my side out". Or he can do it anonymously / leak it.

This revenge serves a practical purpose. The more people are aware of what she has done, the better it will clear his name. He can't yet be sure that his exoneration has gotten circulated as widely as the original slander. You know the saying about a lie traveling halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes.

[–]yummyluckycharms6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Very common - why do you think the pence rule exists in the first place? In the entertainment world, the recent ghomeshi case shows that even feminist allies arent immune to being falsely charged. He got off because he recorded everything.

People lie all the time - thats why the paper trail rule exists at corporations. A co-worker wants a favour or for you to do an additional task? Tell him, to send it to you via email with all of the details

[–]ThaiEscapePlan8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Ghomeshi hardly "got off." His career was ruined and he has yet to resurface. After spending hundreds of thousands on legal defence, he was able to prove that the women accusers conspired through hundreds of back and forth texts to each other. Those were communications that were not disclosed to the prosecution and police who all looked like fools when this came out at the trial. But Canada's wonderful feminist government has a solution, change the laws so that an accused man's defence team will not be able to use an accuser's text history to show ill will or bad intent. this was before the metoo hysteria.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/government-bringing-sexual-assault-law-up-to-speed-with-the-courts-times/article35213485/

In a Criminal Code amendment that a sexual-assault crisis centre called a direct response to the acquittal of broadcaster Jian Ghomeshi last year, proposed legislation would spell out for the first time that a complainant's text messages, e-mails and video recordings with sexual content or a sexual purpose can be kept out of trials. A new provision would subject these messages, including those sent after an alleged assault, to the same rules as evidence of a complainant's past sexual activity: requiring a judge's advance approval after a closed hearing for them to be used in a trial.

It gets worse. Defendents have to lay out their defence plan to the prosecution. https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/sexual-assault-bill-gets-few-changes-from-mps-despite-lawyers-concerns-over-reverse-disclosure-provision

I don't think "Don't date psychopaths" is good advice in today's environment when every woman is potentially a psychopath and the state is backing them up. "Don't be unattractive" isn't an answer either. By Canadian standards Ghomeshi was attractive. Ask Brad Pitt or Henry Cavill how it's working for them.

Unfortunately, this whole comment stream reads like an advert for MGTOW, not Red Pill

[–]yummyluckycharms2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

All True - but when I said he got off - it refers to how he didnt go to jail. Which in itself is an accomplishment considering the full weight of the government and media were put to use against him.

and yes - after being stymied - the government changed the rules to ensure that no judge could intervene again. It should be said that the rule of law in Canada is non-existent - courts have been re-interpreting the laws far beyond what is stated for years now. Nor does one have the right to face their accuser among other recent changes.

[–]Synzael2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Luckily in the US exculpatory evidence is generally admissible even if it's highly prejudicial. Our legal system is fucked, but not in the same way as many western countries

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great point. Some people on here think this shit is rare and people don't lie. Lies can ruin your life.

[–]lifeson1065 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank goodness he didn't sleep with her! The situation is shitty but it will blow over eventually, unlike having a baby situation with a crazy situation!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Girl can't take rejection at all. Either this or they start crying.

[–]kremer54 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

isn't this libel? if she or her family has money, sue the shit out of her?

[–]gbdoragnic4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is very common, Women are very easy to sleep with but maintain a facade of very hard to get , or that they aren't like other women. Getting rejected from a "Piece of shit", this is how she considers you, nothing more than garbage, and if garbage rejected her, than she must be garbage herself.

Now why would see move on to threats of rape? Because women are taught at a early age accuse a man of rape to get your way.

If he didn't have those messages #Metoo and the court system would of ruined his life over nothing.

In short, women aren't your enemy, but they aren't your friends and they live in a system design to fuck you over if they feel jaded.

[–]Plebsin5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Reading stuff like this pisses me off.

[–]TheDevilsAdvokaat5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

"rape" accusation.

The atomic bomb for women.

Sadly many choose to go nuclear when their feelings are hurt. It's an old saying but true: Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't use Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. Would it be smart to make an account with your own name on those sites, but never use it so you can be sure someone won't be impersonating you?

[–]twofones3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Seems like there are strategies for anticipating behavior like this when profiling a prospective mate . We have BPD to look for, but I feel we can improve on this as well

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

BPDs are excellent at hiding their disorder at first. It's not usually until you're dating for a bit that they start revealing their true nature.

[–]twofones0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Right, which is why I think it’s important to think about other information or queues one can look for

[–]Carcrash1985 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

It amazes me how many times I have been about to post a thread on something on here , only to find that someone has had the exact same thing happen to them , very very similar happened to me two days ago , and I’m sick of it , just imagine if he didnt have the proof ?

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

He would be fucked without proof.

[–]NintenJoo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you have an iPhone, there is a free app called “Tailor”.

It will automatically stitch all your screenshots together and save them as a single long image file.

Works great.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

100 years ago women like this would have been identified and institutionalized.

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Now they are considered brave.

[–]WarViper13372 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hope he reported her to facebook. They have been cracking down pretty hard on fake accounts like this and there is a good chance they will ban her permanently.

[–]Geckobird8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

It’s posts like these that make me really believe mgtow is the only smart option.......

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

You would think so. Being MGTOW you're still going to have to deal with women. Rejecting them is going to be a big part of it. Rejection is lethal to them.

[–]Geckobird2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The top post on TRP is of a guy who almost got legally fucked over for rejecting a woman. Steering clear as much as you can is the best option.

[–]freddymerckx2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are they in a really small town or something?

[–]nuxx92 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even better, we should all delete our Facebook account. It won’t stop fake accounts but it’ll be easier in the long run to alleviate yourself from social media.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]THEMIDLANDMAN6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

I got involved with a woman for 4 years behind her partners back. We were meant to be getting together properly after she left him but she dumped on me from a great height.

This was pre red pill, ghosted her but kept our entire 4 years conversation all the details of her sneaking behind her partners back and having sex in public places around the village.

She knows this and avoids me at all costs, walked into a pub not long ago with her in (2 years after we "broke up") and she drank up and left within 10 minutes.

[–]curiousjourney1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

its not hard for you to show those messages to him......

[–]THEMIDLANDMAN5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's with someone else now, but I sure he'd be shocked at what he's dealing with. Not to mention she also slated her so called best friends on there as well.

[–]BostonPillParty1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

For those who have iPhones, be aware that your text message settings have three options; keep for 30 days keep for 90 days and keep forever… Make sure it’s on keep forever.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. Keep those crazy bitches honest

[–]zangatti1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nice, show him MGTOW subreddit. GO MGTOW!!! MGTOW for life!

[–]Viking_RnP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

How about don't use social media.

[–]Vlad_the_imp_hailer1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Or, you know, don’t deal with women.

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Being completely MGTOW you're still going to come across women. You're still going to have to reject them. It's best to record, document and save everything.

[–]Vlad_the_imp_hailer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, that’s true. Still GYOW is the best method.

[–]Demiurge_Decline1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I already know - She was fat. He is average. She saw a high SMV. He saw nothing in her.

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Eh, he is BP natured actually. He believes in romance and a bunch of other bullshit. He's the type of guy to wait to get to know someone before fucking. She was also a Landmine.

Those deep type guys seem to get a lot of pussy thrown at them. Probably because they reject a lot of women and seem hard to get(high smv appearance). He's nexted a lot of cute chicks(didnt fuck them) just because he didn't like them. So he has a reputation for doing that.

I've explained to him he isn't going to find a unicorn. He says one day he'll prove me wrong.

[–]DivisionTotenkopf2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women are by default mentally unstable, they work real hard to hide this from the rest of the world, some work harder than others though.

[–]Zech4riah1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And remember to buy lottery ticket if this happens to you. This shit is so rare that you shouldn't be wasting any energy to worry about it.

[–]alex_d_20160 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I do this all the time for 2 years already because: 1. It may help me like in this case 2. When I don't have internet connection I can read funny momemts or jokes in that convestation Cons: 1. R.I.P. your space on a mobile phone ( although of you do it on a PC you won't have problems with space ).

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have shit backed up to a harddrive, that I keep in my safe. I also take notes on chicks.

[–]Nocryingok0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This is BP. Doesn't happen so often, and the courts will soon start to ignore ridiculous fake rape accusations. This is only spread on mainstream media to keep incels as incels (feminism is a shit test)

Be bold and don't stick your dick in crazy. Don't spend your time recording conversations.

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

BP is being ignorant and refusing to believe shit happens. How many threads like this do you come across on TRP? Quite a few. You have guys having their lives destroyed.

Keep hiding and pretending bad things don't happen.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Anyone knows a good iOS app for that ? Where you can save recording/text messages and comes with a passcode ? Please feel free to share.

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I have android, but... my recommendation is to download any voice recording app. The text messages I believe can be synced and backed up to apple and other apple devices.

Ultimately I would passcode the fuck out of your phone(even requiring it for start up). Secondly, I would download an app like Void Lock App. Which projects a fake lock screen of the phone seemingly being off.

On an ending note, any weird feelings or nervousness I would double back up everything.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This stuff should be illegal.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I got screwed similarly in high school. Psycho bitch found out I was talking to some other chick while we were together. She hacks my FB and turns all of our mutual friends against me. Calling me a "man whore, cheater, liar, etc.". Nobody even bothered to ask me my side of the story. Bros included.

The psycho bitch still tries texting me asking me to meet up (I never would), and otherwise tries to sabotage relationships when she hears from the grapevine I'm with someone new.

It's some crazy shit. I got the last laugh though because she's still alone and meanwhile I'm making (and stashing) gobs of money.

The best revenge is a life well lived.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thankfully he is swallowing the redpill. Thankfully ive never been accused of rape, of all the terrible things that have happened to me, that has never happened. Thank you Jesus.

Yeah, save everything and record everything if you have suspicions that the situation is about to blow up into chaos. It could save your life. Be prepared to walk away from everything. And be prepared to fight until the deepest parts of your human primordial energy reserves are extinguished. Then fight some more.

[–]griz3lda0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Word. I mean I've lived with several and survived it, but at this age, I'm just over not having total control of my env. I'm very irritable to sensory overstim and the crying can really get to be too much for me personally. I don't want to suggest that no one w bpd including guys can have a normal relationship, they just can't have one with me. But what I have now seems to be working out for both of us.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Would not happen if he didn't have Facebook in the first place.

[–]bikermonk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

> She also is claiming he raped her

This is unbelievable. Sounds untrue to me.

[–]askmrcia-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

How old are they? And that is some bpd shit.

[–]RedBeard6-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Or just date women who aren’t psychopaths...

[–]hiddenpleasures123[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem is, she didn't reveal herself to be a physopath right away. By the time she revealed herself, he got a bad feeling and rejected her it was too late.

This post is about taking measures to not get caught in a trap.

[–]WarSport2233 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Part of their deal is psycho / sociopaths, cluster B’s; they are quite adept at hiding their crazy.

[–]ThorCoop-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

what age range is this? this seems very juvenile.



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