Are any of you guys left wing?

vladimirpoopen · 2019-09-09T07:28:14+00:00

Male Antifa members are probably mgtow :-)

TigPlaze · 2019-09-09T19:20:06+00:00

I'm mostly left/progressive, at least I am on economic and social policies. However, I DESPISE the feminist/SJW bullcrap. Those scumbags aren't for social democracy anyway. They're totalitarians who hate free speech. I often call feminists "a cancer on the progressive movement." I wish more left leaning people would give hell to these feminist terrorists. They get plenty of pushback from the right, but not enough from us. It's in all men's best interests to destroy the bankrupt and hateful movement known as feminism. Feminism is anti-liberal. True liberal ideas cherish free speech and are for everyone being equal under the law. Feminists are for shutting down any speech that doesn't fit their dogma and are working for special privileges at others' expense. That's totally against democracy and liberalism. It's also against conservative values. IMO true liberals should ally with conservatives against our common enemy of feminism.

BertTheWelder · 2019-09-09T22:19:22+00:00

I was left wing when that term meant that I believed in civil liberties, free speech, freedom from religion, and respect for science.

Now I’m apparently a Nazi because I don’t want an 80 percent tax policy to go to pay for gender reassignment surgery for 6 year olds and I don’t think anyone even slightly to the right of Bernie is worse than Hitler.

SUEDE2BLACK · 2019-09-09T19:57:36+00:00

I'm in the middle.I believe in strong borders but also think it's mesed up to deport kids back to impoverished he'll holes.I think we need to place tarriffs on countries with human rights abuses.We need to bring jobs back to America but not eviromentally damaging industry.We need a stronger stance on China but have to acknowledge we now live in a global economy.I also don't have a problem with Women heads of state, presidents etc and voted for Hillary but I actually agree with most of Trumps politicall views.I think we should build a wall that rivals the great Wall of china,mostly because it will look Kool on satellite imagery.

I think prostitution should be legal men should be able to opt out of support if women can opt for abortion.I think automatic and high caliber weapons should be baned,only bolt action single fire, along with handguns excluding revolvers.

I don't think we should go back to the stone ages where women can't leave the house and their only purpose is to please men.

Stronger punishment for false rape or abuse allegations and equal treatment under the law.

But as MGTOW I generally don't give a crap about government,politics or what's going on in the world unless it directly affects me.

iseehot · 2019-09-09T18:54:08+00:00

not trying to start any fights

By asking for political alignment, I think you are being a bit ingenuous.

TurnItBackOnThem · 2019-09-09T18:49:29+00:00

Hi, it’s pretty clear that most members of MGTOW community are right/ alt right

I think your perception is based on self sufficiency being perceived as conservative/right.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2019-09-09T18:43:41+00:00

Libertarian. Your body, your choice on pretty much everything.

retard_____ · 2019-09-09T17:08:47+00:00

Yes I'm a socialist.

There isn't a real left wing group in the US, let alone Canada where I am. So all I can really do is gmow.

throwd444444 · 2019-09-09T16:05:52+00:00

Most MGTOW including myself aren't aligned to any political system. Hell right at the very core is the breakaway from politics.

Brickles09 · 2019-09-09T15:54:06+00:00

Left-wing people say MGTOW are literally nazism. Ask them.

Light_Dark_Choose · 2019-09-09T15:51:28+00:00

I used to support the Democrats, but their policies are increasingly infringing my right to go my own way - decreasing gun ownership, menstrual equity, gender quotas, open borders ect. The party disgusts me now.

IBudgetForIt · 2019-09-09T15:49:05+00:00

Yeah, I'm left-wing. Believe in nationalized health care, UBI, gay rights, etc.. I don't see any conflict with MGTOW.

Sparks_18 · 2019-09-09T15:47:21+00:00

On the political compass I'm ever so slightly left and ever so slightly libertarian.

DonMelbourne · 2019-09-09T07:30:09+00:00

I don't see MGTOW itself as being political, neither left nor right. I'm a centrist myself, leaning centre-left.

I don't see any right/alt-right material here on MGTOW2, nor much on MGTOW1. How is it clear to you that most members of MGTOW are right/alt-right?

LockeLamoraLies · 2019-09-10T00:19:36+00:00

There all oligarchs who cares. I'll vote fur the tyrant that promises me more crumbs than the other one.. I guess

RubertTheBear · 2019-09-10T07:35:46+00:00

There's a strong individualistic element to "Going Your Own Way", so it should come as no surprise that it will attract people with individualistic political leanings (i.e. "right wingers"). MGTOW certainly isn't a collectivistic philosophy.

TheKelticWolf · 2019-09-10T02:40:19+00:00

Left wing and right wing are attached to the same bird.

I choose neutrality.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-hLJfvJoMEQ

rationalthought314 · 2019-09-10T01:15:53+00:00

I dislike alt right and SJWs seeing them more as overgrown children having after-school squabbles on social media. I like the term progressive in it's truest form that being "progress" ie moving forward and both extreme sides are stumbling blocks for different reasons. Modern Feminism I find a huge stumbling block because it's very myopic and refuses to acknowledge the darker side of female nature preferring to lump all their problems on men which gets society nowhere. I want us to be on Mars and exploring the solar system but identity politics would have us firing scientists because of sexy images on their shirts or lack of knowledge of Biblical passages.

As for MGTOW, it's not about left or right but about being logical of the situation. The game is stacked against most men in the courts - the court of law and the court of public opinion. With relationships, the reality of chameleons, the life switch effect, dual mating strategies, and general social media posts by many women it makes logical sense to want to avoid the pitfalls. Many men regardless of their political stance have been ruined by women one way or another. In this current climate, MGTOW is simply a sensible non-political option.

Ijiraqshin · 2019-09-09T23:43:13+00:00

Yes. The Nordic Countries have the greatest quality of life. Social Democracy is a working model IMHO. I lean left a bit and down a bit on the political compass. Leftish Libertarianish

Introthink · 2019-09-09T23:35:25+00:00

Well, your not alone. I believe we can exist side by side as long we don't speak about politics. That may lead to dangerous path.

GYOW_OR_DIE · 2019-09-09T23:09:24+00:00

I'm more socialist conservative myself.

GFitness97 · 2019-09-09T22:50:45+00:00

I tend to lean left on a lot of things, and then right on some others. I'm dead in the middle of the road. I see the harm feminism has done, but at the same time, I do not think that its the apex of all of our political and social problems currently. I do not think that all women are evil beings that want to leach off of men, or whatever other incel bullshit I'm constantly bombarded with, but I do agree with taking marriage out of the hands of the state and annulling no-fault divorce to curb the amount of broken families that are resulting from the 80% of marriages that fail. I actually agree with what the institution of marriage stands for. Families that are together and have a father figure present in them are crucial to raising productive, upstanding citizens, yet, like a lot of things the government gets involved with, its been corrupted in this day and age. I'm also a MGTOW, not because of political views or a disdain towards women, but because all of my previous relationships have not been the best of experiences. While yes, I have had the occasional crazy ex-girlfriend, my relationship failings were mainly because of who I am as a person. It's very hard for me to become emotionally attached, and because of previous things that have happened (drug addiction, girlfriend cheating, etc.) I've just come to realize that I enjoy being alone, and I'm more productive and function better. I'm also a very religious person, so I'd rather spend my time investing into my religion, career, hobbies, music, and friends, rather than a girlfriend.

Trek13 · 2019-09-09T15:11:55+00:00

I am center left. Haven't seen any alt-right here on MGTOW2 but was booted off MGTOW1 twice for criticizing "dear leader" (fucking Trump) in response to idiotic alt-right posts there. Unfortunately the alt-right infesting MGTOW1 makes them a pretty easy target. I wouldn't go back there even if they unbanned me.

AssEatingReindeer · 2019-09-09T14:59:14+00:00

Yes leftist here, but also to be fair, not at all a monk.

classicrando · 2019-09-09T08:54:51+00:00

Far Left.

DangZagnut · 2019-09-09T09:24:10+00:00

There’s nothing political about mgtow. I’m a liberal in the classic sense, not the progressive social justice shit today.

I think you see a lot more right sounding things here, because all the commie and Marxism shit is left wing, and that’s where all the man haters live.

AnHonestView · 2019-09-09T09:13:05+00:00

Full on socialist. Believe in UBI and everything.

thoughtOG83 · 2019-09-09T08:52:02+00:00

I don't see a difference between the so called alt right and the far left.

Both movements are not really political but ideological.

Both support demagoguery.

Both support knee jerk emotional reaction over deep seated critical thought.

Both revel in emotionally immature excess.

flyinghorse1 · 2019-09-09T08:49:36+00:00

I'm left leaning on certain issues - i'm in favour of the European healthcare system; I believe we should protect the most vulnerable in society; everybody should have access to free education; and I believe moral issues that don't really affect others isn't our business; I'm also quite anti-war unless under dire circumstance.

I'm right leaning on crime and illegal migration

MGTOW90 · 2019-09-09T08:35:53+00:00

I am left wing.

DopaMonkey · 2019-09-09T08:34:01+00:00

I kind of steer away from anything political, it's a complete mess of different agenda's. If I was to be classified it would likely be right/alt right because of how delusional the left appears, from my day to day experiences I've rarely (if ever) came across a racist/Nazi/white supremacist as per what the extreme right is - wheras I seem to encounter some crazy libtard almost every other day at work.

KhajiitFL · 2019-09-09T08:14:07+00:00

MGTOW is an apolitical collective of individuals with only one shared interest: Go Your Own Way

batfish55 · 2019-09-09T08:05:45+00:00

Libertarian. Not sure why so many mens rights guys seem to be lumped in with alt-right white supremacist assholes. Mostly thinking that has to do with the media not knowing how to classify groups, so everyone that doesn't subscribe to the approved narrative must be alt-right.

LesterBurnham97 · 2019-09-09T07:52:00+00:00

The question is a little weird. I Just speak for myself now but i am looking at politics in the way of cause and effect. If an idea that is more legt wing but gives a clear benefit for society without causing too much problems i welcome the idea. The same goes for ideas that come from the right wing. It depends on risk to value. I think a lot of MGTOW's think the same as MGTOW itself inherits the risk to value equation. Another Thing what needs to be said MGTOW 1 has a lot of guys who are in full red pill rage mode and seem to wish to have the more conservative life back what is much more right.

dajoor · 2019-09-09T07:45:04+00:00

MGTOW is a philosophy, not a political party. It has nothing to do with racism, or even sexism. Men from all races ascribe to the philosophy, even if they are white supremacists, but that does not make MGTOW a white supremacist political movement.

meeselbon573 · 2019-09-09T11:50:27+00:00

Get out of here with lying that MGTOW are alt right.

FlyingSexistPig · 2019-09-09T14:57:00+00:00

That alt/right tag is just thrown about everywhere. I'm hardcore democrat. But I didn't vote for Hillary!

shishkebab311 · 2019-09-09T14:46:21+00:00

I'm left wing because I want people to succeed and realize their passions. I'd rather not have a system of government that gives in to monied interests. Private companies exist for profit, and government exists for the people. If people want to work, which nearly all of us do in some capacity, it should give them a living wage. It comes down to what humanity means to me. A struggle for survival is not humanity. That's what MGTOW is for me. Instead of struggling for survival in a gyno centric society, I can go my own way and realize my passions. I only want the same of everyone else, so I'm a leftist. In particular, a pretty hardcore Marxist. Not communist. Please don't think that's the same thing. Please.

theanchorman05 · 2019-09-09T14:34:11+00:00

I'm a critical thinker....so neither

Calberic42 · 2019-09-09T14:28:23+00:00

Yes

MarqNiffler · 2019-09-09T13:36:41+00:00

First, get out of here with slipping that apt right shit in there so casually. That’s nonsense and not what MGTOW is about.

For me personally I find that a socially I am very liberal, but when it comes to government and law I tend to be more co derivative.

30203forever · 2019-09-09T12:36:01+00:00

MGTOW can be anything except the progressives (i.e. regressives retards) and the alt-right idiots.

DeplorableToast · 2019-09-09T12:29:23+00:00

How is it pretty clear? I don't see this.

Everyone that goes against the mainstream is Extreme right wing, at least where i'm from.

KurkTheMagnificent · 2019-09-09T12:27:17+00:00

Yeah I'm a hard core supporter of north korea

Joe_Rogan_is_bae · 2019-09-09T12:12:24+00:00

im gay

omen_tenebris · 2019-09-09T12:01:05+00:00

Well, mgtow is very individualistic. So is the right side of the political spectrum. Left is more collectivist. Sure there are outlined but you catch my drift

Dls95405 · 2019-09-09T11:48:15+00:00

Very progressive but politics are like religion, pointless to talk about on the internet, let’s share and learn about what we have in common interest.

Motorola_Nova · 2019-09-09T09:55:21+00:00

Libertarian.

The_Diz_Man · 2019-09-09T11:43:07+00:00

I don’t believe that MGTOW is made to be political, but I myself am probably quite centrist.

samoF1 · 2019-09-09T11:40:29+00:00

I have some libertarian views but I try and stay out of politics as it’s just turned into a massive Circle jerk over the past few years

Ok-Cappy · 2019-09-09T11:23:38+00:00

I'm left of center politically. Equal rights, power to the people, social justice and so on. I identify as a MGHOW. I have grown as a person learning and listening to others here. But I don't don't agree with some tenants. I think a lot of us blame the ladies for all their ill fortunes but most men are far from perfect themselves and, like anyone would, have a hard time confronting our own issues whether we are born with them or whether they have been built up throughout our lives. I take everything I read (here and elsewhere) with a few grains of salt for the very reason that we are all complex individuals, our groups and societies are even more so. We want, so desperately, to have simple answers to those questions that stress us the most but reality is, IMO, more complicated than we care to admit. I come here to learn and to feel a little less alone that I normally would because as a MGHOW is, by nature, a lonely road to travel.

The_Outlier1612 · 2019-09-09T10:48:25+00:00

I don't really align myself, I believe globalism would help us all get further in life, I believe some aspects of socialism could be beneficial, I believe in the second amendment, I believe in some things trump say, but I like yang better. My views are kinda all over the place lol.

chalchium · 2019-09-09T10:42:25+00:00

Left or right is only for those poor first world citizens who are so deprived of knowledge due to the public education system. They couldn't understand complex topic, so just give them a stick and ask them which side to hold.

Think about it. There so many different issues in society, each has many different opinions. How could it be possible there are only two combinations? If you go to Asia, you will find people there never classify any party left or right. Because they know both/all are shit.

lextragon · 2019-09-09T10:25:40+00:00

Im wingless

MunmunkBan · 2019-09-09T10:15:21+00:00

Don't see how going your own way means you have to believe which political side is going to rip you off the least or fatten their mates up the least. They all do it. I prefer to ignore all that crap.

Title	Are any of you guys left wing?
Author	indoorbowling123
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Date	September 9, 2019 7:20 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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