Just a reminder that nearly the same number of men die from prostate cancer as women from breast cancer (34k vs 43k in 2021)

maxlvb · 2021-04-26T08:08:42+00:00

Mars vs. Venus: The gender gap in health

The health gap

Men die younger than women, and they are more burdened by illness during life. They fall ill at a younger age and have more chronic illnesses than women. For example, men are nearly 10 times more likely to get inguinal hernias than women, and five times more likely to have aortic aneurysms. American men are about four times more likely to be hit by gout; they are more than three times more likely than women to develop kidney stones, to become alcoholics, or to have bladder cancer. And they are about twice as likely to suffer from emphysema or a duodenal ulcer. Although women see doctors more often than men, men cost our society much more for medical care beyond age 65.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/mars-vs-venus-the-gender-gap-in-health

Why Funding for Men’s Health is Bizarrely Low Given Life Expectancies

Women have an effective anti-death lobby. Men don't. They never have.

https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/men-die-younger-government-funding-womens-healthcare/

Men die earlier but women’s health gets four times more funding

https://prostate.org.nz/2014/01/men-die-earlier-womens-health-gets-four-times-funding/

Feminism: Equality, when convenient.

mrbill1234 · 2021-04-26T10:12:53+00:00

Yes, and men die of breast cancer too.

bgibson8708 · 2021-04-26T10:02:03+00:00

Another one that is worrisome is cancers related to HPV. Women get annual screenings for their cervix and abnormalities can be stopped early. HPV related throat and oral cancers are on the rise and have nearly equal numbers, but no good screening or preventive measures are in place to protect men.

ApprehensiveMail8 · 2021-04-26T13:53:29+00:00

Here's a great bumber sticker for both:

"Check the headlights and the tail pipe!"

LeoBites44 · 2021-04-26T13:29:40+00:00

Can we all agree that cancer sucks and should be fought in all it’s forms for all genders?

long_black_road · 2021-04-26T12:24:07+00:00

Men, we need to do a better job of advocating for ourselves. We need to do what women did - demand that our health needs be given priority treatment. We can complain all day that "society expects men to be expendable," but WE are about 50% of society. Bumper stickers aren't the issue. It's education (male teachers in primary and secondary schools), it's political activism, it's organization, it's action (how many here have actually donated toward prostate cancer research?).

kaiserleech · 2021-04-26T11:22:41+00:00

In Switzerland, the numbers for prostate cancer is actually slightly higher than breast cancer. So i don't know how it is in other countries or worldwide.

ArgueLater · 2021-04-26T16:02:25+00:00

While this is a gendered issue, I think it might also have something to with pretty much everyone having an attachment to titties in the form of having fed from them. Mens buttholes don't spark that same level of endearment.

Not that mens buttholes are any less important than titties, but it's probably 50/50 a gender vs part of body thing.

windows_n_cheese · 2021-04-26T16:16:48+00:00

and men die of breast cancer as well

funnybillypro · 2021-04-26T16:22:07+00:00

Are you aware that the incredibly trending and popular No Shave November is....for prostate cancer? I know it doesn't get a month of NFL ribbons, but I think prostate cancer gets plenty of press. It's the first one I think of when I think of Men. I think a lot do too.

southerncraftgurl · 2021-04-26T17:44:08+00:00

My dad got prostate cancer. The doctor gave him the usual speil about how it's slow progressing and he should wait. My dad wanted that shit out of his body! God love him, he had the surgery. I don't think they really prepared him for what was going to happen physically so he and mom had a time getting used to everything and using a pump until mom finally told dad she didn't want sex anyway so they quit, lol. (yes, mom shared this with my sister and I . Dad would DIE if he knew I knew).

I feel sorry for guys just because you have a prostate, let alone the cancer. You guys have so much trouble with enlarged prostates.

as a nurse, guys always felt they could talk to me, even on dates. I can't tell you how many prostates I've checked for guys because they don't want to go to the doctor and have it done. (Its good foreplay though, lol)

TheFakeVenum · 2021-04-26T10:38:12+00:00

People tend to care more about women's tits than a man's asshole. The only thing we can do about the underfunding is privately fund the research. But since the world is shifting to leftist policies private wealth is looked down upon and heavily taxed.

Agirlformensright · 2021-04-26T22:19:27+00:00

When something bad happens to a man everybody starts victim blaming

nflcansmd · 2021-04-26T06:52:35+00:00

34k - 43k is still a fairly substantial difference. That works out to be about 4:5

sonofsuperman1983 · 2021-04-26T18:03:30+00:00

1 in 2 men will get cancer 1 in 3 women will get cancer.

2021-04-26T21:08:06+00:00

It's not a well-popularised disease. That said, I saw a HUGE poster for its detection driving on the A3 in the UK just a week ago. Maybe perceptions are changing? I hope so.

2021-04-26T21:16:11+00:00

Young men work, young men pay, old men die, middle-aged women complain about it all.

Noob_master_slayer · 2021-04-27T00:06:53+00:00

Interestingly, WHO has an entire page dedicated to breast cancer, it's awareness, and it's statistics, but it has no page or information at all about prostate cancer.

Hmm, nice male disposability there👍.

boundarychimps · 2021-04-26T09:40:23+00:00

Sure, but people don't like to stare at prostates and your latest fling probably didn't pick you based on how yours looks.

Starmind0 · 2021-04-26T12:42:40+00:00

"Hmmmmm are you undermining women's issues? M-MESSOGENEEE >:(!1!" /s

OrphanSlaughter · 2021-04-26T14:53:35+00:00

And then there is lung who kills triple that of breast cancer. And who has more stressful life, thus resulting in heavy smoking, thus lung problems?

TCPOAbuseInColorado · 2021-04-26T12:48:10+00:00

In growing up in the 90s all I saw were PSAs for men to get checked, t.v. shows talking about it (like NYPD Blue and Home Improvement), etc....

Admittedly it's not something easy to promote.

I do not believe it's because women are favored over men.

Fun-Macaroon-3539 · 2021-04-26T11:54:00+00:00

Why make it sound like a competition?

iloveyou77777 · 2021-04-26T11:15:04+00:00

Make your own damn bumper stickers.

Cybralisk · 2021-04-26T09:48:59+00:00

Prostate cancer isn't exactly serious as far as cancer goes and the average age of diagnosis is 70.

Breast cancer is way worse and effects young women, surviving usually means they have to have their breasts removed. Would you date a woman without breasts? Call me shallow but I wouldn't.

ScurvyDawg · 2021-04-26T15:58:18+00:00

Isn't this why we have Movember?

Tollin74 · 2021-04-26T17:55:27+00:00

As a man, when I was younger, going to the Doctor was frowned upon. And in some cases judged, poorly. I heard a lot of these types of statements.

"My back and knee hurt too. You don't see me getting surgery!"

That is a big reason why, in our later years, men need a lot of care. All those ailments, that were ignored for decades, can not be ignored any longer.

I see it now in my uncle, who is turning 69 this year. He is on hospice care as we speak. Every week we hear about a new problem showing up in his body. I remember when he was younger and bragging about never seeing the doctor.

It's sad really

wwwhistler · 2021-04-26T19:11:40+00:00

and unlike breast cancer..as a man ages his chances of contracting prostate cancer move closer and closer towards 100%.

maxlvb · 2021-04-26T23:15:38+00:00

This relates to New Zealand, but it's similar/the same in most western/first world countries...

Men are paying with their lives for unequal health funding

By Nicky PellegrinoDec 2, 2017

Males pay with their lives for the tiny amount of health funding they get compared with females.

If you’re a Kiwi male, you have a lower life expectancy than your female counterparts. In your youth you’re at higher risk of dying from suicide. You’re more likely to suffer injury or death from accident. Heart disease strikes far earlier and your lifestyle may be setting you up for a range of cancers. Yet far fewer resources are allocated to men’s health problems than women’s.

It’s a conundrum, says Professor David Baxter. “If you look at where funding goes in this country, it tends to be primarily to women’s health. For every $1 the Health Research Council spends exclusively on women’s health, 6c goes to men.”

Baxter is working to close the gap by establishing a Centre for Men’s Health at the University of Otago. This will provide a forum for those working in the field, from medical researchers to support groups, and help identify and respond to men’s differing health needs.

“The feedback I’ve been getting from charities and men’s groups is that men’s health tends to be invisible,” he says.

The attention it does draw is mostly focused on testicular and prostate cancer. These diseases have received about half the funding allocated by the Health Research Council to men’s issues since 2010 despite their accounting for only 4.4% of male deaths a year.

David Baxter.

“When I give talks and try to get across that men’s health is not just about waterworks and sexual function, people can be quite surprised,” says Baxter. “The work done by charities to raise awareness of prostate and testicular cancer is great, but it allows us to miss the point that other cancers are bigger killers – men die earlier and at a faster rate of stomach cancer than women, for instance.”

Between the ages of 50 and 75, the number of deaths for men is 30% higher than for women. Māori men fare particularly badly – they can expect their lives to be seven years shorter on average than non-Māori men.

There are numerous reasons men have been left so far behind in the health stakes. They’re less likely to go for check-ups, are prey to a macho “she’ll be right” mentality and, in the absence of a male equivalent to feminism, the philosophical element is missing. But some of it comes down to basics.

“Even the places where healthcare is provided tend not to be men-friendly,” says Baxter. “You walk into a waiting area and it’s full of women’s magazines and potted plants and painted in pastel colours – welcoming but not necessarily to men.”

Keeping men alive for longer may involve targeting them through sports clubs and men’s-shed organisations to change unhealthy behaviours. He believes after-hours clinics, particularly for those in rural areas, may encourage more men to pay attention to healthcare.

Baxter is also the director of the National Science Challenge for Ageing Well, and says we need to change the mindset across the generations. “It’s about young men, old men and the boys who are the men of tomorrow.”

In October, Baxter and a research team made a case in the New Zealand Medical Journal for the need for us to follow countries such as Australia, the UK and Ireland and create a men’s health strategy to shape policy and take men’s well-being centre stage.

Some might argue that men are their own worst enemies. If they lead damaging lifestyles and avoid going to the doctor, then it’s no wonder that a man dies every three hours of a preventable illness.

Baxter says a shift is needed in some masculine ways of thinking. He sees Sir John Kirwan’s work tackling the stigma around mental health issues as an example of the kind of thing that can be done. “We’ve got to allow men to be men, but some of the masculinity isn’t helpful,” he says.

Occasionally he comes across the attitude that men’s health doesn’t need extra support. “But they die about three years earlier, which is a good argument for focusing on it. Having healthy men who are going to be around to be fathers and grandfathers is important.”

This article was first published in the November 18, 2017 issue of the New Zealand Listener.

MEN'S HEALTH FACTS

• 3000 men die every year from preventable illnesses like heart disease and diabetes.

• Women live four years longer than men.

• Pakeha men live seven years longer than Maori men.

• 65 per cent of men are overweight or obese.

• The suicide rate for men is three times that of women.

• Across every age bracket more men than women drink to hazardous levels and smoke daily.

• 48.2 per cent of men deem their wellbeing as either awesome or nearly awesome compared to 45.3 per cent of females.

• 69.4 per cent of males have visited their general practitioner in the last six months compared to 75.9 per cent of women.

• 13.2 per cent deem to have no-one to talk to about intimate matters contrasting with 9.3 per cent of females.

(Sources: Men's Health Trust, Sovereign Wellbeing Index, 2012/2013 New Zealand Health Survey, Statistics New Zealand.)

AtheistConservative · 2021-04-27T00:28:40+00:00

I had symptoms that were consistent with prostate problems, which can be more than just cancer. I went in and i was nervous, but the peace of mind of knowing that I was all good was totally worth it. Everyone here has seen dozens of lazy prostate exam jokes, and while it wasn't comfortable it wasn't a big deal. So if you're the age to be getting them regularly, or have symptoms, GO GET CHECKED.

SubzeroPrunusPersica · 2021-04-27T01:45:37+00:00

Funny how numbers have a way of telling it like it is.

kanniget · 2021-04-27T05:26:30+00:00

Had a feminist justify this with ' men can get breast cancer too'

2close2home · 2021-04-26T07:36:31+00:00

You don’t die of prostate cancer. You die with prostate cancer. Source: my doctor

Acceptable_Branch_81 · 2021-04-26T14:46:23+00:00

Context-/men are far less likely to seek medical care. Toxic masculinity.

Acceptable_Branch_81 · 2021-04-26T14:57:14+00:00

There are some real idiots on here. Try facts in context such as men participate in more dangerous activities, are far less likely to seek medical care, more inclined toward violence, etc. But, mainly you fail to mention over half a million women will be diagnosed with breast cancer in the US this year compared to 250,000 cases of prostate cancer which, by the way, the majority of which are non-fatal. Further women also can, and do, experience far more types of cancer than men such as ovarian and uterine. It’s not some gender issue it’s the fact women simply have more types of cancer than men. PS: to the “men go to war” guy, STOP STARTING WAR!!! It’s time for change and that begins by eradication of the male knee jerk reaction to settle issues of power thru violence.

Title	Just a reminder that nearly the same number of men die from prostate cancer as women from breast cancer (34k vs 43k in 2021)
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