Because of #MeToo the number of male managers uncomfortable mentoring women has more than tripled. Almost half are uncomfortable participating in a common work activity with a woman.

ibelieveinigloos · 2018-02-15T20:42:11+00:00

I’ve coached high school girls basketball and been very successful for almost a decade (7 district titles and 3 state in 9 years). At the end of this year, I cannot in good conscious continue to do so for fear of allegations that while most definitely would be false, could prove damning to myself professionally and to my family. It’s heartbreaking, because I won’t be coaching my daughter as she gets into high school. But I cannot and will not make myself a target for some teenage girl or a woman that wants to advance her own agenda. I’ve always had female assistants due to not wanting to be in a situation that could be suspect, but now I don’t even trust my colleagues to do and say what’s right.

TheMeisterAce · 2018-02-15T11:40:44+00:00

It goes beyond that. Hiring females is dropping. You phone interview to keep up appearances and then hire the most qualified male. This movement is going to backfire.

kaszak696 · 2018-02-15T21:06:04+00:00

That's what happens when "allegations" became equal to "conviction" int the eyes of public opinion. The boy cried wolf too many times, so he got shot.

The correct solution of course is to replace all male managers with womyn! /s

TheCyanNinja · 2018-02-15T18:32:35+00:00

So the legitimate guys are less likely to accept a mentoring role with a woman, meaning the guys with ill intent are more likely to get assigned to a mentorship role. Well done.

2018-02-16T00:07:18+00:00

When I was a CO, I absolutely refused to enter a women’s section without eyes on me from the control tower. I never ever entered a female cell without a female officer present. It’s different than female coworkers, but I can relate to the feeling. It’s a bullshit feeling knowing you can’t do your job properly without fear of a lawsuit or harassment claims...especially when they are made by a criminal.

jabanobotha · 2018-02-15T13:14:52+00:00

5 years from now when not "enough" women are in powerful positions they will blame sexism, I guarantee it!

van-nostrand-md · 2018-02-15T14:40:34+00:00

And the main reason this movement will hurt women it’s not because men are afraid of being exposed for sexual harassment, but rather that the movement never differentiated between actual sexual harassment/assault and minor situations (e.g., woman was asked out, she declined, and nothing more happened). Since any woman could claim #MeToo without explaining what actually happened but still getting the benefit of sympathy from society, just about every woman claimed #MeToo. People started to realize that the problem was not necessarily pervasive, but that there was no actual definition for what constitutes an assault or harassment.

CALAMITYFOX · 2018-02-15T19:42:11+00:00

This is kind of the same thing that happened with the hard core SJWs telling girls/minorities they will never succeed because of the White male patriarchy. At some point the SJW is the only one telling impressionable people they can't be Doctors, or succeed in business.

Another example is SJWs saying cops won't believe you if you have been rapped. I've seen more then enough evidence of women terrified to report rapes because they really think the SJWs are right and cops wont believe it.

soxfan90 · 2018-02-17T23:45:40+00:00

Fucking hell, people are dense as shit. I have read a few articles about this. Every single one just blames men for not wanting to mentor junior female employees or spend time alone with them outside of work.

NOT ONE FUCKING WORD asking why they would feel that way. No "hey, Mr. Smith, why don't you want to give Sarah over here the chance to ruin your 25-year career and your entire life if she feels like it? Why do you feel more comfortable hanging out with Billy instead?"

NOT ONE FUCKING SENTENCE castigating false reports or saying that pretty much any attitude other than automatically believing accusers no matter what would ease men's concerns and bring those numbers back in line with prior figures.

It's never women's fault. Never. Everything is men's fault. And I understand that male sexual harassment of women is a big issue that's run totally out of control. I think most men get that. All we want is some assurance that if someone falsely accuses us decent men of wrongdoing of that nature, we won't be automatically thrown under the bus. Until we get that, you're going to continue seeing some of us not wanting to spend significant time with women coworkers under 50 outside of (and even at) work, period.

asaasa1983 · 2018-02-15T15:19:33+00:00

Yeah a sexual harassment lawsuits nets you millions, yet lose an arm you get like 500,000. Which I never understand I'd much rather have my ass touched than some of the gruesome accidents that happen that net hardly any money.

--Edog-- · 2018-02-15T18:45:03+00:00

Standard definition of #MeToo = Feelz. All you need to know. The ugly guy asked you out vs. The hot guy asked you out. Feelz.

SwampSloth2016 · 2018-02-16T03:23:54+00:00

Great job feminists !

Daniel_Laixer · 2018-02-15T17:53:03+00:00

#MewTo

chambertlo · 2018-02-15T23:42:39+00:00

Stop hiring women, then.

I am so glad that this is happening.

johnchapel · 2018-02-15T16:26:36+00:00

Thats some top notch feminism there, ladies.

Casual_ADHD · 2018-02-15T17:59:19+00:00

Can't have anything good amongst women. They hate one another. Can't help but compete.

matrix2002 · 2018-02-15T16:50:34+00:00

Yep, there are going to be very real repercussions for a lot of the women using the MeToo movement for dumb ass shit.

This issue won't go away. Racism is a mistake that will get fixed, but gender differences are biological.

Good2Go5280 · 2018-02-15T15:05:01+00:00

Yet another reason I own my own business.

ozelegend · 2018-02-16T05:44:46+00:00

First comes the #mentorme then comes the mansplaining.

poopmouth · 2018-02-16T07:12:04+00:00

Pound Me Too.

_bbrot · 2018-02-15T15:57:24+00:00

And then the same people who are partaking in the #metoo hype will be complaining about women being paid less because of (((sexism))) when in reality they aren't getting the training/mentorship they need to succeed in their field.

3pills · 2018-02-16T04:46:34+00:00

So you’re saying Trump was right about these things needing due process?

a_bingo_goose · 2018-02-15T18:26:48+00:00

I was expecting one or two lol. You know how to kareoke very well! Bravo.

BlackBoxInquiry · 2018-02-22T08:19:34+00:00

It’s why when one of my daughters has friends over I always make sure that at least 1-2 other adult females are there.

I Don’t need any crazy lying bullshit because I didn’t let them opt for the large blizzard at Dairy Queen.

You know in this day and age where you are basically assumed insta-guilty and insta-convicted before tried and how dare any man be proud to be a man or want to the a father and participate in his kids school activities without other parents assuming you’ve some other motive other than being there for your kids.

Ever seen a woman use a bathroom at an elementary school? My wife did, she asked and the reply was; “Sure, no problem, it’s over there.”

As a father I had the misfortune of needing to use the facilities and upon asking the very same teacher was told; “the bathrooms are for students and faculty only.” - when not 20 min before my wife was directed to a bathroom by the same woman.

I let her know and her response was: “we just try to avoid any potential issues with males.”

Like what? I’m gonna go in there and drop trou and helicopter while taking a piss? So, I left the school grounds went to a store about a mile away and used their facilities.

I lodged a complaint with the district the following week.

Now they have a bathroom designated for male parents and different one for female parents.

Basically they temporarily take one restroom from the kids during plays and other events when parents come to the school (one boys, one girls restroom) and come complete with indicating signs, but I’ll take that any day over driving a mile.

NaughtyFred · 2018-02-16T20:23:39+00:00

#Leanout

bryanrobh · 2018-02-15T16:27:01+00:00

Not worth the possible trouble anymore.

rhgla · 2018-02-15T17:48:48+00:00

I called that weeks ago.

2018-02-15T20:28:53+00:00

POUNDMETOO?

2018-02-17T23:26:00+00:00

I wouldn't be comfortable with such an arrangement unless I had a prior relationship with the female employee or we were never alone without a camera present. That's just business nowadays. Protecting my career is more important than anything else when I'm at work.

Excavateandfill · 2018-03-12T16:46:12+00:00

I wouldnt hire a woman because of this. Too much hassle.

Why would i when i can hire a guy who shows up, does his work then goes home. No other associated bullshit

2018-05-08T02:42:36+00:00

True story. Went to see my accountant.

She led me to a windowless room and attempted to close the door. I immediately told her to please leave the door wide open.

I don’t care who can hear us about my taxes. It won’t be nearly as damaging as being accused of sexual impropriety.

kainvictus · 2018-02-16T10:26:52+00:00

And today I sent my female coordinator a :stompyballs: emoji. We had a good laugh. YMMV

btcftw1 · 2018-02-16T12:14:19+00:00

I was expecting one or two lol. You know how to kareoke very well! Bravo.

nitudo25 · 2018-03-09T11:08:32+00:00

you hit me, i hit back. gender or race no bar.

alginon1090 · 2018-02-15T11:38:23+00:00

It's because half of those males are unattractive?

tmone · 2018-02-15T19:46:26+00:00

Maybe they're uncomfortable mentoring women because they struggle to understand appropriate work place contact. And maybe that's a problem for a lot of men. 🤷🏻‍♂️

PunkAssGhettoBird · 2018-02-15T17:15:39+00:00

Holy fuck, this is the most pathetic comment section I've witnessed in this sub.

ddukes2284 · 2018-02-15T19:50:26+00:00

Sounds like a massive number of men who know they behave inappropriately and refuse to change their behavior. They probably shouldn’t be managing a damn thing.

It’s really not hard to be appropriate with people.

basilobs · 2018-02-16T06:54:28+00:00

Sorry women coming forward about being sexually assaulted is making you uncomfortable

vogelbekdier · 2018-02-16T02:41:10+00:00

Thats not what that quote means or that org is about at all lmao ya’ll stay triggered

ddukes2284 · 2018-02-15T22:49:06+00:00

There is of course anecdotal evidence to support the idea that a false accusation led to individuals losing their jobs. Five examples doesn’t prove anything. And men avoiding women in the work place based on five examples is the workplace equivalent of “letting the terrorist win”.

I will concede the point that false accusations occur. And when that happens those people should be punished, and if someone loses their job they should be able to take legal action against the accuser and the employer who didn’t conduct a thorough investigation; near as I can tell there isn’t anything preventing this.

But if the rate of false accusations is what you say it is (2-10%) that still leaves a massively disproportionate amount of factual accusations (90-98%). With that being the case I feel safe in my assumption that a man avoiding women in the workplace says more about his inability to behave appropriately, than it does about some man-hating agenda existing in the workplace.

Title	Because of #MeToo the number of male managers uncomfortable mentoring women has more than tripled. Almost half are uncomfortable participating in a common work activity with a woman.
Author	ragingfartalot
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Date	February 15, 2018 11:34 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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