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BBC axe award-winning comedian of 18 years for being 'white and male'

heymonkeygobananas

October 2, 2016
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/01/bbc-axe-award-winning-comedian-of-18-years-for-being-white-and-m/?WTmcid=tmgoff_soc_spf_fb&WT.mc_id=sf37635851
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Title BBC axe award-winning comedian of 18 years for being 'white and male'
Author

heymonkeygobananas

Upvotes 1482
Comments 134
Date October 2, 2016 11:27 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]TheRavenousRabbit 235 points236 points237 points 9 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

I think there is a huge lawsuit coming at BBC.

[–][deleted] 114 points115 points116 points 9 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

He will still have to prove it.

[–]manwith4names 168 points169 points170 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

we want to recast with more women and diversity

I think that speaks for itself. Why was he fired? For not being a female and for not fitting into the cultural narrative of diversity

[–]TejrnarG 36 points37 points38 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The problem he is going to face is, that he was not literally fired, but his contract was not extended. It is still disgusting that the reason for that seems to have been his race and sex though. But it will be harder to reach something than if he was actually fired before his contract ran out.

[–]ITSigno 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This business of endless 1-year contracts in Canada/USA/UK is just so badly abused. One of the nice things in Japanese labor law is that if you work as a full time contract employee for 3 years or more (e.g. multiple 1-year contracts) you qualify as staff. They'd have to fire you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think Sweden has a similar law but for two years. My supervisor for my MSc said something about it regarding research positions. The trouble being they then only let you stay for those two. Afterwards you have to find somewhere else.

[–]ITSigno 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, some companies try to find ways around it.

I used to work for a private company that did dispatch ALT (Assistant Language Teacher), but the contracts were for 50 weeks. Schools closed during the summer vacation anyways, so this way they avoided paying you for two weeks, and avoided the various legal requirements.

That's still a fairly unusual situation that mostly affects foreigners, though.

[–]The_Punniest 49 points50 points51 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's his privilege.

[–]Xanthan81 15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[PRIVILEGE INTISIFIES]

[–]mdorman91 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I agree but he would need evidence.

[–]alclarkey 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

It appears that he's quoting the management. I suppose he might need a recording or something to prove they said it. Or they might just be stupid enough to admit to it. I mean they were stupid enough to do it, why wouldn't they be?

[–]dexmonic 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Why is it illegal for a tv show to not renew someone's contract? Especially if the reason they aren't renewing it is because the show is about to go in a completely different direction? Is there some law that requires tv shows to renew actor contracts even if they don't want the actor on the show anymore?

[–]alclarkey 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No of course not. But all kinds of fines and sanctions have been levied at businesses on the mere rumor that a minority or a woman lost their job due to discrimination. Turnabout is fair play, if that is the actual reason they are giving for kicking this guy to the curb they should be sanctioned as well. But if they are just trying to change the direction, maybe find new fresh talent, then sure, but absolutely can not be about race or gender.

[–]dexmonic 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They should be sanctioned because they want to change the program, and that happens to include adding new cast members who are women? All because other random companies somewhere were sanctioned because of rumors?

[–]alclarkey 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They should be sanctioned because they want to change the program, and that happens to include adding new cast members who are women?

If the new cast members were chosen because they are women, and not because of their talent.

All because other random companies somewhere were sanctioned because of rumors?

I would have preferred that they hadn't sanctioned those companies but if they do it to one side they should do it to the other. Fair is fair.

[–]Soncassder 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

We're not going to renew your contract because we're going in a totally different direction and you're black.

You think that would fly?

[–]dexmonic -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you're going to make a show that doesn't have black man in it, then yeah. It's not discrimantion based on race, it's a decision based on who can actually play a role. If the color of his skin is the reason he can't play the role, i.e. the role is for a white kkk member and all of the other black roles are already full, then it's still just a decision based on who can actually fill the role.

This show is not discriminating against this person because he's a man, but he physically cannot play the new role. If there is nowhere left for him to go on the show, the company has no obligation to keep employing a person who physically is unable to work for them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What is this "physically cannot play the role" baloney? You know that there have been all black theatre companies that have performed Hamlet, which is an all-white play, and historically most acting troupes were all male and had men playing female parts, right?

[–]FastFourierTerraform 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I hate to say it, but shit like this might actually be legal in the UK.

[–]joshp18 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you look at it litterally it is illegal but it is never enforced.

[–]Kai_ 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No it's literally not.

[–]KingMong 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

BBC is on its last legs, it's watchers and listeners are a dying breed, and nobody is paying the TV licence, we don't fucking want it.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good, its been a long time coming. Fuck the bbc

[–]mushybees[🍰] 152 points153 points154 points 9 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

Lets have a quota, they said. Fifty percent women and 15 percent non white they said. By 2020 they said.

Might have to sack some white men for no other reason than they're white, and men, though.

hashtag equality.

[–]Tyrone_Shekelstein 84 points85 points86 points 9 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me a lot of the white guy that sued Stanford university due to Stanford rejecting him in favor of a less qualified black student. The black guy lost his medical license after a few years for giving his friends narcotics, while the white guy went on to run a very successful anesthesiology businesses.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of that kid who was originally rejected for a heart transplant because he was deemed high risk. Mostly due to being an urban youth. Anyways the community made a big stink about racist doctors, etc. so the kid got the heart.

Only to get shot through the heart during a B&E by the home owner or the cops a few years later.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He got in a car crash while in a police chase

[–]Tyrone_Shekelstein 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sheeeiiit he dindu nuffin! He wuz a gud boi on hiz way ta church gnawmsayin? Den da rayciss kkkops massuhcurrrred him gnawmean?

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[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

That black guy was the "least qualified student" that got in I assume. White guy should clearly have gotten in before Black guy under normal logic assuming the white dude was way better the way it sounds. But white guy doesn't get in and black guy does. White guy makes a guess it was about race and sues.

[–]Saturnix 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you happen to know how the lawsuit went?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No clue

[+]DallasTruther -8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

So he went through the grades of every student to come to the conclusion that the black guy happened to be the least qualified?

No chance at all another white guy was even less qualified?

*A quick web search found that Allan Bakke didn't claim he was rejected in favor of a certain student; just that the special admissions policy set aside places for black students, which may have caused him to lost his admission.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Idk that was just my guess as to what happened. I did say I was assuming.

[–]DallasTruther 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And I was taking that assumption one step further and asking how would that even happen.

[–]bufedad 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm assuming there was a diversity program in place. Therefore, it was a safe assumption that there was a less qualified minority.

He sued, and during discovery they determined who got in instead of him.

That's just what I would expect would have happened.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

In other words, he was

rejected in favor of a certain student

[–]DallasTruther -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Was that certain student identified?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't matter, I'm going off of what you said, which was contradictory. You dug your own hole.

[–]DallasTruther -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Recap:

Reminds me a lot of the white guy that sued Stanford university due to Stanford rejecting him in favor of a less qualified black student. The black guy lost his medical license...

 

How on earth would he know that he was rejected for that specific other person?
 

 

That black guy was the "least qualified student" that got in I assume.
 

 

Was that certain student identified?
  

  

Doesn't matter
 

How does that make sense?

OP of this convo started with details about the black student and his life. Pinpointing who the student was absolutely matters.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm going off of what you said

Key point here.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I couldn't find the court case you talked about, but here is one that went to the supreme court: Fisher V. University of Texas

[–]dauntlessmath -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you know his name?

[–]Tyrone_Shekelstein 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Allan Bakke.

[–]cum_penibus 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are they aiming for 50% of the rigging crew and other physically demanding jobs to be women? If not then Holmes won't be the last man to be displaced from his comfortable desk, creative or decision making job to make way for diversity...

[–]BigOldNerd 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only the good positions need diversity.

[+][deleted] 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Involution88 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apartheid would be different. There wouldn't be a single BBC. There'd either be multiple BBCs (white BBC, Black BBC, Asian BBC) or a single umbrella BBC where individual channels have to employ, star and cater to different races.

[–]YM_Industries 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the game This Is The Police you are sometimes ordered by the mayor to meet quotes, such as at least 50% of your police force must be women. There's no way to meet them other than to fire half of your male force.

[–]atomcrusher 155 points156 points157 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think South Park got it right when they named their black character Token. Level the playing field, absolutely. But shoehorning is ridiculous.

[–]cranktheguy 41 points42 points43 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no reason for a diverse cast when your setting was a hick town in Colorado. As the show became more of a commentary on society in general, the show has become a bit more diverse out of necessity. I just love the way they take everything too literally on their show: the black kid is literally Token, and a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich are running for office.

[–]nuesuh 69 points70 points71 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

He's probably heterosexual as well. Absolutely disgusting, it's Current Year for fucks sake

[–]RationalistFaith1 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]nuesuh 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know. It makes me come off as literally being Hitler.

[–]BigOldNerd 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He should have came out (despite whatever his real orientation is). Then he'd have a successful lawsuit instead of hurt feels.

[–]iburiedmyshovel -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

As a gay man, very deep into the homo-elite (heh), this is only the first part of the Agenda. Hold tight to your buttholes, gentlemen.

[–]cymrich 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

amusingly I recently saw an ELI5 about where to find unbiased news sources and someone suggested the BBC was the best unbiased news source. I quickly commented that they are quite biased particularly with their feminist man hating agenda. I expected to get downvoted a lot but didn't appear to get any votes at all... maybe i've been shadowbanned from the sub for it... lol. in any case... as if to prove my point, today we have this lovely anti-white male gem...

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The BBC is a very big entity and this was from radio I believe, lots of what they produce is to a very high standard.

[–]cymrich 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't disagree that they have made some high quality stuff... but more and more they are shoehorning in feminist ideology... the Sherlock new years special is a good example... the replacement for Stephen Fry on QI is going to be one of the worst feminists in their country... Dr Who has been getting more and more feminized to the point his latest companion is now time traveling without him somehow and the Master is now a woman... never mind the fact that the doctor already had a female enemy that they could have just reintroduced (The Rana), no... the Master had to become a woman for some reason... I'm sure there are many other examples I could come up with... this dismissal is just the newest in a long line.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was mainly thinking of their news.

[–]speedisavirus 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been shadow banned on all my accounts. For nothing but factually backed statements that don't fit their agenda

[–]casemodsalt 80 points81 points82 points 9 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Imagine some 80's sci-fi movie where honest, hard working, qualified individuals are fired because they want to bring in unqualified, inexperienced, dishonest minorities to not seem racist.

Call it "2016"

[–]wicknest 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they wouldnt even notice their blatant racism and sexism if it punched them in the face.

[–]Temperfuelmma 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Imagine some 80's sci-fi movie where honest, hard working, qualified individuals are fired because they want to bring in

.

unqualified

Yup.

inexperienced

Absolutely

dishonest

Wat?

[–]casemodsalt -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't work at a job that I wasn't qualified for and had no idea what I'm doing.

[–]bufedad -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't work at a job that I wasn't qualified for and had no idea what I'm doing.

Yeah... that's how I learn new skills and move up in my field.

[–]casemodsalt -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Unless you have no idea what you're doing.

[–]bufedad -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Like I said, that's how I learn new skills and advance my career.

[–]casemodsalt 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not by started a job you have no idea what you're doing

[–]bufedad 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely. I once took a job as a lotus notes developer, having never developed lotus notes application nor litusscript (which ended up being a skinned version of vbscript).

I excelled at that job and moved onto others that I wasn't qualified for, but also excelled at.

Heck, my current job is working on a product that Microsoft just released, and I had no idea what I was doing when I was hired. Guess what I'm excelling at that too.

Most of my jobs are 2% what you know and 98% being able to figure things out. That's what I do.

[+][deleted] -58 points-57 points-56 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Whatever is best for company the company will go with. If he's so good good and experienced then he should be able to find another gig without any problems.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points49 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

So he should just take his lickings and get on with his life even though he had been with the company for EIGHTEEN YEARS, always performed up to their standards, gave it his all, only to be fired because "Diversity Quotas".

Fuck that. It's blatant discrimination and he should sue their rear ends for tossing him out on such regressive tactics.

[–]lackofagoodname 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's bullshit, but at least in this case he has some credentials to easily find a new job.

It's more worrisome for the scores and scores of unknown people who won't have shit for a job because they're the wrong color or gender. Kinda sounds like the early 1900s except reversed now. #progress

[+]dexmonic -19 points-18 points-17 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So...if you work for a company for EIGHTEEN YEARS, and view yourself as a good employee, then that company is now legally obligated to employ you in the future for as long as you want?

[–]Celda 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, that is a strawman.

A company should be legally barred from firing someone because they're white, or firing someone because they're black, etc.

[+][deleted] -31 points-30 points-29 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I doubt he'd win.

[+][deleted] 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Corbenik89 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He's bbc

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Mr White Male, I'm BBC. Uh, you don't get to bring SJWs!"

"They are not true Scotsmen."

[–]RationalistFaith1 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]7a7p -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

His family isn't the company's business. While I think they should care, legally compelling them to care is bullshit.

...and you sound exactly as I would expect someone who flips out over "equality" in employment.

[–]JesusofBorg 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The company he works for cares about his productivity.

His productivity flows directly from his well-being. An unhappy, or unwell, employee is not a productive employee.

His well-being is directly connected to the well-being of his family.

So, if his well-being, which directly impacts his productivity, is directly influenced by his family's well-being, then what you just said makes absolutely no sense. They should care just as much about his family's well-being as they care about his well-being, unless they don't care about their employees being productive members of the company.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mad? There's literally not a shot in hell he'll bother sueing BBC.

[–]fox2319 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The funny thing is, it's a radio programme. I really couldn't care about the race of someone on the radio and (if I'm honest) some of the programmes I've heard that centre on an asian or black character just seem to use it as the sole hook for all of their jokes.

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[–]perfectEarlobes 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't stand it, on any level.

I live in london, and being half black i would like to think my skin colour has nothing to do with the opinions people have of me or the opportunities i get.

I work in vfx. So even things like a university degree is not required even for a programming role. It's all based on your portfolio, your skills and abilities. If you can show you can create great work/images/tools, you get the job. The interview is a formality and in essence, a brief sanity test.

In the end, for the studio hiring, its all about the best person they can find for the roll given the budget they have.

I have confidence in my skills but if one of the uppers said that we only hired you because of your skin colour, I wouldn't be able to describe how useless and redundant that would make me feel as a person. A hamster on a wheel while they are using a horse power. The thousands of hours i have worked to be told...we hired you to so we could check a box.

I don't know any studies on equality, but i know one thing. Just culling people from the workplace based on attributes like gender and skin colour is sexist and racist.

Why not just advertise no whites allowed don't apply. I know when i watch anything on the BBC all im interested is the racial percentage breakdown. If you don't meet mah quota i don't watch ya. Seriously how can they not see how wrong this is.

The only good thing is this type of behavior is in the minority in privatized sectors because if you can make money it doesnt matter if you are fucking blue and identify as a microwave oven.

[–]AlyssaPeyton9045 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As expected, this article is getting downvoted to hell and back in /r/unitedkingdom. They really hate men/white people over there.

[–]AstronomicalAsshole 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Link please?

[–]dresden_k 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's racist and sexist!

[–]Gimbu 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Clearly you haven't been paying attention. He's white and male, and was fired for it. How can that be racist or sexist? /s

[–]surv1vor 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Diversity quotas that influence employment are illegal in the UK full stop

[–]Bookwomble 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you know who else's contract the BBC decided not to renew?

Yeah. How did that go for them?

"The Now show" has just become "The Was show."

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

If it's true, it's shit. However, we only have one person's word to go on and one side of the story.

[–]TejrnarG 80 points81 points82 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

No, we have both sides of the story:

A BBC spokesperson said: “While the Government's new charter for the BBC does set us diversity targets, we always hire presenters on merit.

“We’d like to thank Jon Holmes for his contribution, but our comedy shows are constantly evolving and it was simply time to create opportunities for new regulars when The Now Show returns this autumn."

The first paragraph contains the thing: How do you want to judge presenters purely on merit, if you have reach your diversity standards? Of course decisions will be biased!

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points43 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's a very good point. "Diversity targets" and "hiring on merit" are mutually exclusive.

[–]MemeticParadigm 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think that's always true, particularly in any media where you are asking someone to contribute their own viewpoint on something.

If "merit" is defined as ability to contribute to the value of the media product being created, and part of the value proposition of that media product is that it provides culturally diverse perspectives, then a potential contributor's "merit" will be partially determined by how similar their own cultural perspective is to the cluster of perspectives already being represented by other contributors.

If a media company decides that diversity of viewpoints represented positively impacts the value of their product, that decreases the effective merit of contributors who belong to relatively overrepresented clusters of cultural perspective.

[–]AloysiusC 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One need only imagine the situation in which a position is open but only if it's filled with a woman can the diversity target be met. Then every male applicant is disqualified based on sex alone and nothing else - 100% regardless of merit.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They literally could have just been honest and said "of course we hire on merit! The best woman we can find will get the job, duh"

[+]JerfFoo -15 points-14 points-13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Those are two separate paragraphs. Are those even said within the same context or by the same person? Looks like fishy journalism to me. He also referred to them as targets, not standards.

[–]baskandpurr 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He also referred to them as targets, not standards

What difference does that make?

[+]funkmon -16 points-15 points-14 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't think so. Presenters can be judged entirely on merit but the Beeb can still meet its diversity standards by hiring people of diverse backgrounds for other areas, like accounting, producing, secretarial stuff, law, tons of junk. It doesn't have to be on radio, unless I'm remembering the rules wildly incorrectly.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That all requires merit.

[+]funkmon -8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I know.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't think so.

Yeah I know.

I mean, just, what?

[+]funkmon -11 points-10 points-9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You said all that requires merit. I know that I never implied anything else.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How do you want to judge presenters purely on merit, if you have reach your diversity standards? Of course decisions will be biased!

I don't think so.

That all requires merit.

[–]dangrullon87 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Southpark strikes again if only he were female and screamed "muh vagina alot"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have the weirdest image in my head right now...

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.co.nz/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html

[–]DrSilverworm 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"muh vagina alot" seems like an odd thing to scream

[–]hawker101 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We’d like to thank Jon Holmes for his contribution, but our comedy shows are constantly evolving and it was simply time to create opportunities for new regulars when The Now Show returns this autumn.

And they'll be opportunities for women and minorities.

[–]thrway_1000 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/0byNT

[–]SolongStarbird 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I hope a similar fate does not befall me as I look to get my first job soon.

[–]RHPR07 26 points27 points28 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Don't worry, you won't get one!

[–]SolongStarbird 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Gee, thanks. I'd better start letting myself down now.

[–]The_Punniest 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just don't have expectations in life. It's much easier that way.

[–]cymrich 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

just make yourself look like a black person like that one blonde woman did and then become a diversity officer or some shit...

edit: in case you don't know who I am referring to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=blonde+woman+identifies+as+black&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS590US590&hl=en-US&prmd=vin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNgYz_3LzPAhUQwmMKHfsVBcUQ_AUICCgC&biw=375&bih=591

[–]SolongStarbird 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh yes that...

Sadly, I am too white for that.

[–]mindscrambler26 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm white and male, and therefore a worthless piece of trash

[–]2oubledose 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Stephen Fry was ousted from QI for the same reason. Such a shame, as it was a dream job for him in many respects. No other personality could hope to fill his shoes. Same reason given officially: "More females needed".

Next season will feature a female host who is not popular with the public, nor known for being funny, or especially knowledgable of esoterica (in contrast to Fry, who is a household name in the UK, for the speed of his wit and his raconteur's general knowledge). It will also feature an additional female panelist each show as a matter of principal, many of whom will be panel show rookies. Their male counterparts will be tested veterans.

The show mostly revolves around pub-quiz-style trivia and grumpy-old-man banter. By all means, if there are female comic talents who are suited to this, put them in the show. But by removing the host the BBC has sacrficed one of the richest elements of the show to please a demographic who likely won't even be tuning in.

It is really quite sad. Stephen Fry in his role as host represented something in British culture that may never happen again.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Stephen Fry was ousted from QI for the same reason.

He quit because he'd been doing it for 13 years. Don't make it anything other than what it is. And Sandi has been a great guest every time I've seen her - I'm looking forward to see how she does as the host.

[–]2oubledose 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The BBC has looked to put more women on its panel shows, with an edict by outgoing director of television Danny Cohen last year that each programme had to have at least one female panellist.

Toksvig said it wasn’t the answer and called on the BBC to “get more female hosts” instead. Now it has one.

[–]PaytonMariah4756 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah, outrage at the world we created. What did you think affirmative action was other than try as hard as possible to hire anybody who isn't a white man because fuck white men apparently.

[–]scanspeak 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why the world needs Donald trump.

[–]osufan765 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Guys, he wasn't fired. They opted to not renew his contract. He didn't have a job without them renewing it anyway. He wasn't fired, his contract expired.

[–]erk_forever -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let's not have facts get in the way of* an emotional response.

[–]Analpinecone 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus, OP should xpost this to /r/nottheonion

[–]Flomosho 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, the other BBC.

[–]Electroverted 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you want to lose viewers?

Because this is how you lose viewers.

[–]a_posh_trophy 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And they have the cojonas to demand you pay a TV licence to watch their bullshit. Ha!

Stuff like this only further strengthens my argument that TV is nothing more than a taxable utility.

[+][deleted] 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]cymrich 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think the daily show is another good example of this... I know Jon Stewart wasn't forced out but trevor noah is nowhere near as good...

[–]Grubnar 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, I think that is a bad example. Trevor is not as good, not because he is not white (he actually is half-white) but because he is not Jon Stewart!

Frankly, not many people could fill those shoes.

[–]erk_forever 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

John Oliver was so good, someone realized he aught to have his own show.

[–]a_posh_trophy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't watch it, but you only have to watch Big Brother to see how desperate producers are to cater for each and every diversity just to keep everyone happy.

This is where we are now. We feel like we have to please everybody or else we'll be labeled as prejudice towards a group.

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