Why redpill’s whole idea about men being attractive to younger women because they’re “fertile”is bullshit…

RealRussShackleford · 2022-06-30T16:52:20+00:00

RP guys push so hard for younger women because younger women are, as a rule, easier to manipulate. That’s as simple as it gets.

The RP “dating strategy” is mostly built on manipulation and games, and a 19 y/o girl is much less likely to have seen these tactics before than a 32 y/o woman.

That’s why they always discuss “notch counts” and “the wall.” The secret to RP advice on women is that if it’s going to work at all on a woman, it will only work the first time she sees it. And most women have seen it by the time they hit 25, in some form or another.

WaffleConeDX · 2022-06-30T17:13:23+00:00

They’re diet pedophiles and groomers. They won’t say out loud that they like little girls so they have to get the next best thing and that’s 18-25 year olds.

xXMachineWomanXx · 2022-06-30T18:26:18+00:00

I think at the heart of it, Red Pill men are afraid of being old and alone, so they project it as though women are the ones who should fear being old and alone, despite older single women generally being content with their lives.

GoodSilhouette · 2022-06-30T18:14:05+00:00

18 year olds have birth complications as contrary to RP and misogynist beliefs. Younger mothers often struggle as mothers resource wise and socially without a strong a social net.

A lot of RP and traditionalists are pro-ephebophilia because of some bs about younger women and some straight up admit attraction or desire for 16 year year olds. This is because they don't understand or don't care about the risks of adolescent pregnancy https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/adolescent-pregnancy

Which is not to say older women (35+) don't also have issues! Advanced maternal age brings increased risks but it's the point is its more complicated than "young = good". RP people make it sound like any woman older than 28 (which isn't geriatric pregnancy lol) is doomed to a still birth. It should also be noted older women often waited to focus on career and education - resources that provide for children just like the "older man" RP always focus on.

Advanced paternal age is another thing: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3111019/#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20clearly%20accepted,risk%20of%20new%20gene%20mutations. "Because of the large number of cell divisions during spermatogenesis, the mutation rate for base substitutions is much higher in men than women, and increases with paternal age. The risk for genetic defects increases linearly for some conditions, and exponentially for others"

Its not the end all be all for older father's but its more proof against the naive idea that men or anyone escape the effects of time.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4418963/#:~:text=In%20analyses%20that%20controlled%20for,%2C%20endometritis%2C%20and%20mild%20preeclampsia.

https://www.bcbs.com/the-health-of-america/reports/trends-in-pregnancy-and-childbirth-complications-in-the-us

While the overall pregnancy rate has declined by 2% in this population since 2014, it varies considerably by age. The rate for women ages 18-24 declined by 12% while the rate for women ages 35-44 increased by 9%.) While the average age of pregnancy increased over the study period from 30.6 to 31, childbirth complications did not increase with age.

karabnp · 2022-06-30T17:01:48+00:00

I always have seen and felt that “younger” = typically (yet, NOT always) inexperienced, more naive. Malleable. Which means they can easier groom her to suit their “needs”, wants, and specifications.

As a slightly older, “waning in fertility” lady, I feel nothing but sadness and sorrow for those young ladies, who will have years of mental and emotional abuse to unpack and heal from. Not a thing to be “envious” of. AT ALL. Only pity and sorrow felt.

Kaleidoscopefatigue · 2022-06-30T16:05:29+00:00

Egg count. The factoid that supposedly justifies pedophilia.

They wonder why nobody wants to spend time with them.

Carloverguy20 · 2022-06-30T21:08:28+00:00

They have this mythical view that young women haven't been "ruined by Chad, Tyrone".

They are coping at the fact that women don't want them anymore.

It's all a cope by redpillers.

Initial_Instance8457 · 2022-06-30T22:15:21+00:00

RP men and incels deserve to get neutered

carritotaquito · 2022-06-30T15:47:31+00:00

Yes.

I personally feel like having becoming a mother has shaped my body and made it look even more feminine than before.

Looking at my pre-baby vs post baby silhouette, my current silhouette looks more hourglassy than before.

Last, but not least: my husband says that my nipples are way more sensual now. He can't get enough of them after they were used for their intended purpose. Before they were used for their intended purpose, he was ambivalent to them.

debatelord_1 · 2022-06-30T15:42:23+00:00

It's just dudes trying to rationalize their sexual attraction. That's why you can't win them over with arguments like this. No dude wants to seriously date a single mom if he has other options.

jrr6415sun · 2022-06-30T23:39:00+00:00

The best predictor of whether a woman will deliver a healthy child is having delivered a healthy child before.

but there is no way for your body to know if a woman has delivered a child before for it to be attracted to that. And there is just as much of a chance for the older woman to have had an unsuccessful pregnancy.

After a certain age successful pregnancies odds go down a lot, it's really that simple.

Also a woman that already has a child is going to be providing resources to that child, and won't have as many resources for your own child.

Snivelingincel · 2022-06-30T19:09:56+00:00

This is incorrect. Men being attracted to younger women on average because of fertility is not bullshit. Whether or not you want to explain it away doesn’t disprove the preferences of real men. Youth is a signal of fertility, so is having borne children. However having already sired someone else’s child imposes a cost on men that doesn’t exist for young fertile non parent women. This is why single young women are preferred. You are ignoring the basic biology and costs of each decision.

You can doubt the value of youth and fertility all you want but it isn’t a learned preference, it’s an evolved one. These commenters saying it’s about manipulating women are making large claims. That would mean the vast vast majority of men who exist are inherently manipulative, because guess what, the vast vast majority of men find younger women more attractive than older ones in every culture not just in RP circles. Chances are they aren’t motivated by manipulation and rather something else, something that has already been widely studied and documented ie: youth and fertility.

EntertainmentNeat592 · 2022-06-30T16:56:34+00:00

If the vast majority of women didn’t give birth to healthy babies, then yea, but since the vast majority of women do, then the younger she is, the more fertile. Also you’re conflating single motherhood with age. An 18 year old single mother is way more fertile than 38 years old one. do you see how your post makes no sense?

sharedordaz · 2022-06-30T18:44:03+00:00

Yes, because evolutionary psicology apply only for the most primitive part of our brain

Drougen · 2022-07-01T10:09:30+00:00

I've never really dated younger women, but I think a lot of peoope are missing a valid point about younger women is the fact that it's not as likely they'll have kids.

Theres a running joke that if you're dating in your 30s as a man you either become a step father, stay single, or date fat chicks.

No-Writing-9626 · 2022-07-01T15:30:15+00:00

I mean there are men that think this out there have you ever seen 90 day fiancé and the older men getting young girls. I’m not saying is right but I also think there are many other reasons to why men pick women. Some reason may be they love them for who they are not just outside appearances.

Title	Why redpill’s whole idea about men being attractive to younger women because they’re “fertile”is bullshit…
Author	FellasImSorry
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Date	June 30, 2022 3:38 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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