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[–]ninetiesbaby16FDS Apprentice142 points143 points144 points 5 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
I was having a conversation with a male family member where we were trying to come up with positive examples of masculinity in media, and we couldn’t come up with any besides Gomez Addams, and that was after putting our heads together and wracking our brains. Isn’t that sad?
[–]yggiwtmiihFDS Newbie[S] 99 points100 points101 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Actually it is. I literally can't think of any other men. Bob from Bob's Burgers is mostly good to Linda but he repeatedly fucks up major events. It's played for laughs and otherwise I really like the show, but even the first episode was centered around how he forgets important things constantly (i.e. their anniversary, the birth of one of their kids, Valentine's Day every year, etc.). The forgetful/bumbling husband is a very culturally accepted trope and I think they understandably include it to make Bob more endearing and 'realistic,' but without the comedic aspects it's just sad for Linda.
[–]CatSweetsFDS Newbie64 points65 points66 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The forgetful/bumbling husband is a very culturally accepted trope
I hate this trope so much! I used to watch The Amazing World of Gumball with my ex-boyfriend, and I hated Richard for that very reason, while my ex liked him because he thought they have things in common LOL. Richard is a complete "man" child, it's supposed to be funny but I can't stand it.
[–]yggiwtmiihFDS Newbie[S] 35 points36 points37 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I think that show is hilarious, even as an adult haha. But yeah, I agree, the mom bends over backwards in that marriage, down to being the breadwinner and marrying into a harder life made harder by the husband instead of an easier one. Another perfect example of, "It's funny as long as you don't think too hard about it."
[–]CatSweetsFDS Newbie21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love the show too! I only don't like Richard because I can't help but think "there's men like that in real life" whenever he does something extremely dumb that make Nicole's life harder 😅
[–]wolf_townPickmeisha™️12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bob sounds a lot like Hal from Malcolm in the Middle 😅 i do like Hal tho, despite his bumbling and low achieving ways 😓
[–]crapeescapeFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Reminds me of that idiot from king of queens that constantly destroys his wife’s career and reputation. Not funny at all
[–]LadyGrimesFDS Disciple14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Rick Grimes from TWD
[–]ThesociodarkFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, I think Rick is good, he always puts his loved ones first, but I only watched the first few seasons.
[–]LadyGrimesFDS Disciple3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Keep going it just gets better and better.
[–]Danigirl_03FDS Newbie51 points52 points53 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’d add Mr Rogers to the list.
[–]FireflySky86FDS Newbie34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That man was a treasure. Him and Bob Ross
[–]moxymoxaloneFDS Newbie40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jean Luc Picard
[–]RavenWudgieRose45 points46 points47 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
As a genZ-er (lol), the recent ones in the media I could think of who're not the typical masculine male role models are Greg Universe from the Steven Universe cartoons show; single father, and dude has a half-alien son that constantly gets in a lotta trouble, imagine the stress lol, Steven is also a good role model for kids and teens. Newt Scamander from Fantastic Beasts; he's the exact opposite of the typical hero archetype cause he's sensitive and meek, and I still remember the critics not liking the character for not being strong and masculine enough. And that's about it for me.
[–]ninetiesbaby16FDS Apprentice3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Omg I love Newt Scamander! I didn’t know he was so criticized...how lame. Just because he doesn’t fulfill the male power fantasy of giant muscles doesn’t mean he’s not manly. Like it is possible to be sweet and caring while possessing male genitalia 🙄
[–]Unlikely-MarzipanRuthless Strategist15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am impressed you have a male family member that understands and is willing to have a conversation about positive examples of masculinity
[–]manwatheil_undomielFDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Aragorn is another example of positive masculinity! And Samwise Gamgee! If you're looking for more.
[–]omfgreubenFDS Newbie15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Johnny Rose in Schitt's Creek
[–]ninetiesbaby16FDS Apprentice1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’ve heard good things about Schitts Creek but haven’t got round to watching it yet, is it good?
[–]omfgreubenFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's amazing! I think I've watched it through 5 times now (it helps that Dan Levy is beautiful and all the writing and acting is flawless)
[–]IwantyoualltoBEDAVEPickmeisha™️8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The husband from the TV series Medium is a dreamboat imo
[–]ninetiesbaby16FDS Apprentice1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yasssssssss 👏🏻
[–]bananacirclesquareFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LeVar Burton Jack Black Dwayne Johnson
[–]WomanWarrierFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Michael from Jane the Virgin was pretty positive.
[–]Danigirl_03FDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh Danny Tanner as well
[–]throwmefaraway85FDS Newbie228 points229 points230 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
If he don't love me like Gomez, I don't want him
[–]MadamLeFayFDS Apprentice136 points137 points138 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
As a former Goth, lemme just say they'll never love you like Gomez...
[–]99powerFDS Apprentice89 points90 points91 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
As a former goth, what proportion of the male interest would you say came from the “big titty goth” meme? I have a feeling men expect y’all to be submissive porn stars, but just with darker makeup.
[–]eluriaeveFDS Newbie75 points76 points77 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I’m glad that shit didn’t really start until I got too old to bother with it. I always dated men within the goth scene so I never had to deal with morons like this. Only LV goth men 🤡
Edit: spelling
[–]cheesymacaroonyFDS Apprentice40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
As someone who never went through a goth phase - what was the average goth dude like ? Personality wise ?
Imma guessing none had the looks or personality of Brandon Lee in The Crow 😔
[–]The_kilt_liftaFDS Newbie71 points72 points73 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Former goth / black metal scene kid here.
The “dark and mysterious” dudes just translate to “no personality, no goals, super insecure, but impeccable cd collection”
Still I continued to only exclusively date within the scene because the alternative was being fetishized for having tattoos or being generally labeled a “bad girl” who would be a “total freak” in the sheets and they assumed I would automatically be into bondage and shit.
I am not a place for men to live out some kink fantasy or be treated as a “forbidden fruit.”
[–]cheesymacaroonyFDS Apprentice29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So I’m taking they are mostly awkward introverts using a scene to seem cool and interesting.
[–]-badmadAMFDS Apprentice16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol I feel bad because that's basically me, luckily I am leveling up and working on myself.
[–]MadamLeFayFDS Apprentice9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They were so not The Crow!!!
[–]MadamLeFayFDS Apprentice11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Since Goths were scarce in my area in the late 80s, I only ended up attracting "normies" who had The Elvira Fantasy" and wanted to "have a Goth" but didn't want to go out in public with me.
[–]rrrrrrrrrreallyFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn nobody answered this with modern info. As a current goth: a fucking ton and it's gross. Your second sentence is my exact experience.
I also get the same "negging" joke about this meme over and over because I have a small chest.
Also, unfortunately the pickmes within the goth community reinforce the sexualization element - go to any goth-themed fashion/makeup/style subreddit and you'll see like a third of the pics are women posting in straight up lingerie. I don't know, I find it strange. I'm on a ton of non-goth style subs and none of them ever have that.
[–]MoonlitPinkKittenFDS Newbie110 points111 points112 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s absolutely appalling how much they coom over goth women, practically begging for one in the comments section of posts, but never put in any effort themselves 😒 not to mention fetishizing these women who are just living their lives just...disgusting
[–]KevlarSweetheartFDS Newbie51 points52 points53 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They want a goth gf for a month or two and then go back to their regular comfortable 'normal' preference.
[–]IAteTheDragonFDS Newbie36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Back in my teens/early twenties, when I was goth/metal, I noticed that metal guys in my country were(usually) the most respectful and whole some ones in dating. Just an observation.
[–]manwatheil_undomielFDS Newbie19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I work shows and metal guys are either the sweetest most polite guys you've ever met or total dickbags you hope get hit by a car, there is no in between.
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Disciple26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was a goth, but at a certain time. Is goth code now for kinky, willing to be abused? No. No. No. Goth was a aesthetic. These guys perververted that as well.
[–]chatrebelleFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your caption made me laugh
[–]yggiwtmiihFDS Newbie[S] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you, glad to hear it haha
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[–]ceramicunicornFDS Disciple5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“I can land her in my chip-crumbed Marilyn Manson shirt, ill fitting jeans, and unwashed hair with an offer to ‘meet up’ at a metal dive, first round on me!”
fwiw I would not dare, were I to be pursuing a beautiful goth girl, but still...
I Want👏🏻That👏🏻Level👏🏻Of👏🏻Confidence👏🏻
[–]Karthasis11FDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Being gothic is quite expensive and time consuming. The hair, make up and close, that is some sort effort. And ofc they don't thank it to you. Thanks to the media, they think we are some easy sluts with the most depraved bdsm fetishes.
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