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LVM/NVM Child Predators Grooming Young Teens For Nudes in the Guise of “Sex Positivity” - Mom Says She Tried To Prevent Daughters From Falling Victim To Online Predators, But They Were Still Groomed

CakeSprinklesUnicorn

December 9, 2021
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Title LVM/NVM Child Predators Grooming Young Teens For Nudes in the Guise of “Sex Positivity” - Mom Says She Tried To Prevent Daughters From Falling Victim To Online Predators, But They Were Still Groomed
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CakeSprinklesUnicorn

Upvotes 293
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Date December 9, 2021 1:57 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
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[–]DivineGoddess1111111FDS Newbie 176 points177 points178 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I talked to my children very early on about the types of people (let's be honest, men) who take advantage of kids. I told them it's like how it was when I was a kid (offering candy or a puppy to get in the car) but now they do it online.

I told them that you never know who is speaking to you on the other side of that screen. You might think you are talking to a cute 14 year old boy but in reality it's a 60 year old paedophile wanting to jerk off to pictures of you.

[–]CakeSprinklesUnicornAt-Risk Pick Me Youth[S] 113 points114 points115 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Definitely agree. What are your thoughts are the daughters in the video? What struck me as concerning was that it seemed that the 14-year-old daughter actually seemed to enjoy the attention from the adult men; she seemed to find it “empowering” and that she also did it as a way of rebellion against her mother. This makes me wonder if the daughter had somehow absorbed the liberal feminism argument that “sex work is empowering” without realizing that she was being groomed.

[–]DivineGoddess1111111FDS Newbie 79 points80 points81 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The video isn't available in my country.

From your description, this girl is desperately seeking male validation. Who taught her that? I'm guessing mum.

I also doubt that her "blunt" conversation was blunt enough. I was absolutely brutal in my description.

[–]hensbanexFDS Newbie 52 points53 points54 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

my mom had this conversation with me as a child. she was not dramatic but she was totally honest and explained basically how men use the internet to prey on or take advantage of young girls and boys and to never share your age or get too close to anyone you have never seen in person before. she talked about trafficking rings and pedos and meetups that ended in murder. it terrified me but I was never a victim of online grooming and I am so so grateful she sat me down and said all that.

[–]tomaito_tomarto 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From your description, this girl is desperately seeking male validation. Who taught her that? I'm guessing mum.

The whole of society taught her that. Young girls are raised and conditioned to believe that they have nothing to offer except for their beauty.

From the time they're born, young girls are told how beautiful they look in that dress. How beautiful their hair looks when it's plaited. How beautiful their smile is. It's dished out as a compliment whenever a parent wants to praise their daughter.

Take note the next time you see an article or hear a story about a woman being murdered, almost without fail the friends and family will describe the poor woman in a way that boils her existence down to just how she looked. They won't say anything about how smart she was, how accomplished or how kind. No, it'll be about her beauty. "She was so lovely".

Stop telling your kids they're beautiful and instead tell them how smart they are. How brave, amazing, creative or how kind they are. Compliment them on things they can do and achieve FOR THEMSELVES and not something that they have limited control over, like what they were born looking like. They will start building their self esteem off of the skills and traits they develop and not how flawless their face is. One day that face will start withering and what happens then? They have no other foundation for their self esteem.

Is it any wonder we have 12 year old girls seeking out old men to tell them they're beautiful? They've been gifted those magical words as praise for their entire lives, of course they're going to start seeking it out, it's probably all they know.

[–]peaches88888FDS Newbie 89 points90 points91 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I was 12 when I started using MSN chat rooms in 2001ish. I was constantly messaged by older men asking for nudes/wanting me to watch them preform derogatory acts on webcam. It was sickening. I cannot imagine being a young girl with access to modern social media apps... my little cousin just got her first iPhone...

[–]misandryismadeupFDS Newbie 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I got my first dick pic when I was 9 on MSN 🤮. He was pretending to be a girl my age as we met on a virtual reality game for kids and started chatting on MSN.

[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was on those MSN chat rooms too and around 13 or 14 I had 30 or 40 year old men wanting to sext and exchange nudes. Some of these men also wanted to send me porn. Totally disgusting and scary!

[–]ZeniiteFDS Newbie 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of when I was in my very late teens and my brother, 6 years younger than me, would use some online chat. One day he brought his laptop into the kitchen and turned the screen to face me where I could see a man on camera from the neck down with a bare torso. I SCREAMED at my brother, slammed the computer shut, and told him to never show me to a man or show me a man online ever again. I told our mom about it, but she didn’t have the kind of response that she should have had if she were trying to be protective of us (but she was emotionally neglectful overall). My point here is that parents need to pay attentive and not give their kids the benefit of the doubt when they’re on their devices all day, and boys/male teens need to be educated about this shit, too. I’m sure these online predators could convince young, misunderstood boys to send photos or videos of female relatives or friends without the girls/women knowing.

[–]souredskittlesFDS Disciple 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did your brother ever explain wtf that was about?

Omg I can relate with moms not doing Jack shit. In hs I was harassed by pedos walking home, I asked for a phone or maybe a a ride. Nothing. Makes me angry

[–]fireforestfairyFDS Apprentice 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not just Snapchat. These pedophiles are everywhere so the parents here really need to be careful. I know some young girls irl (as in still in primary school) who have their own public YouTube channels. There were these random accounts leaving shortened URLs in the comment section of the videos. I had a preview of these URLs (I used archive.is to stay safe) and guess what? They were all links to "fun dating websites" with pics of naked women.

[–]CakeSprinklesUnicornAt-Risk Pick Me Youth[S] 121 points122 points123 points 4 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

A mom discusses how her 14-year-old daughter and 12-year-old daughter were groomed by adult men on Snapchat and TikTok to send nudes and graphic media. The 12-year-old said she did it because the men made her “feel beautiful.”

I don’t have kids yet, but this genuinely makes me worry about how to raise kids in the future, if the digital environment is going to be saturated with this type of “sex positivity”, “liberal feminist” pro-porn environment (where kids are groomed to be sexualized at a young age for the sake of attention). I actually wish there would be some sort of controls here by the government to keep this from being normalized; it’s likely the girls here had been influenced by the current Pornhub culture, where even 7-year-old boys can click on Pornhub and watch BDSM orgy porn videos from their iPhone at recess.

This is not the type of environment that should be permissible for kids.

In terms of FDS relevance, not only is it a definite that NVM abusers are the child predators in this scenario, but these girls are being conditioned to become desensitized to sex and abuse. The twisted part is that their groomers were able to use “sex positivity” / positive reinforcement (both products of liberal feminism) as a way to reward the girls. In addition, young boys who are watching porn on their phones grow up to be the next generation of LVM/NVM.

Additional thoughts - If you eventually want to have kids in the future, this presents a sort of nightmare scenario on how to raise them without having them being inadvertently groomed. Do you keep them from having cell phones, social media or laptops until they reach 16/17?

What are your thoughts on this and what do you think should be done?

[–]dangermommiFDS Newbie 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it’s truly terrifying. i know firsthand, as my job is to prevent this. I work for an organization that combats CP and online sexual abuse, including self-generated CP (nudes) and online grooming. if you or anyone who has kids needs resources for how to talk to your kids about online grooming early on (kids as young as 9 are being asked for nudes), feel free to PM me. if you have a little sister or brother or daughter between 9-17, I also have resources that directly speak to teens and kids about this issue. Feel free to PM for our TikTok, YouTube, or IG if you want to share these resources. the more we empower youth with resources and knowledge to avoid these situations, hopefully it discourages predators.

[–]Ninja_Flower_LadyFDS Newbie 88 points89 points90 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

even 7-year-old boys can click on Pornhub and watch BDSM orgy porn videos from their iPhone at recess.

this really paints a vivid picture, and unfortunately a very probable scenario.

[–]HappyCoconuttyFDS Newbie 56 points57 points58 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Having some conversations with your kids is not enough. I don’t plan to give my daughter a smart phone till she is in late high school, she can use other types of cell phones in the meantime. I also introduced her to sports early and I hope she finds joy in her body’s capabilities beyond how they appeal to men.

But most of all, there needs to be laws around kids and apps. Especially with all the vicious bullying (a lot of it is sexual) and the average age of being exposed to smartphone porn being 10 years old now.

Social media companies need to be regulated more and their algorithms and suggestions need to be changed.

[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't have children yet and I feel very worried about this. I want to control my children's access to the internet and shield them from porn and social media the most I can but I know that once they are at school there's not much we can do. They'll get access to these things anyways through friends.

[–]CakeSprinklesUnicornAt-Risk Pick Me Youth[S] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder if it’s possible to advocate for a no-phone/advanced digital device policy in the classroom (particularly elementary school) and if other parents would be on board with this as well. For example, the parents would agree that the kids are allowed to have at max a pager or non-internet flip phone and that’s it. Public schools likely don’t have the fortitude to do this, but private schools and homeschool pods likely would.

[–]tellmesomething11FDS Apprentice 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have children, they’re 10, they don’t have cell phones yet but they have tablets and many, many search engines are blocked. Many sites are blocked. I get an email when they try to download something and I have to approve it. They each have a desktop and it’s in the living room only and they aren’t allowed to play with their tablets in their room. At night all tablets go into my room.

  • some might think this is a lot but I have to do this bc I caught one child looking at porn like a year ago? I was just trusting and now everything is locked down. I had to talk to them about how women are abused and that if they watch porn they are basically saying it’s okay to be abused.

  • I don’t know how I feel about a cell phone, technically I’m not required to buy one for my child lol. I may get something simple, that does text and calls only, they can buy their own smartphone when they turn 18. My daughters are okay with it. But I don’t know I’m slightly hippy and earth centered, I don’t even have cable and they have limited screen time.

[–]souredskittlesFDS Disciple 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are a lot of adults grooming kids on tik tok. There is also racy content made by SWs and they use tags related to popular games like #pubg etc. disgusting

[–]purasangriaFDS Disciple 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Parents need to install software on the kids' phones to prevent them downloading any unapproved apps. This type of thing is easy to prevent, at least on their own phones.

Unfortunately, they'll just see whatever on their friends' phones. Maybe we should have some penalties for parents who, through their own negligent behavior, allow their kids to download porn and show it to other kids. Or some default setting on all mobile devices such that one has to unlock full access to all apps and websites with ID verification.

If society really wanted to solve this, there are ways. But let's face it, pornsick men benefit from this behavior, so nothing will change.

[–]xfelugirlxFDS Newbie 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are sick. I remember that in my country many of them tried to trick literally girls to send them photos or they would kidnapp their families. They are a so fucking sick

[–]BasketLow8411FDS Newbie 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gawd this terrifies me for my three daughters

[–]luvmyvulvaxoxoFDS Disciple 59 points60 points61 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is just another reason why men having Snap Chat is a red flag.

[–]souredskittlesFDS Disciple 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Literally. Can you imagine them using it to snap they bros? Nah. It’s for porn or adding women to harass

[–]onceuponaseaFDS Newbie 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is so scary

[–]KindredMaximusFDS Newbie 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least 500 000 a day in one country. I bet that's a conservative figure - there is a neverending avalanche of predators in every echelon of society where women are - work, transport, sports, online, on streets, shopping centres, beaches - every single place. but NoT aLl MeN. Men don't believe us, even as they sit in front of their computer searching for 'hot barely legal' and yanking their sorry selves for dear life. God they are boring as hell and dangerous.
I think feminism made a mistake when we insisted that we have freedom to do what men do. What we should have been rioting about was insisting they conform to our standards and stop being basic and predatory. Why did we think that behaving in their godawful way would be freedom? I used to think that in my marriage as well - why is he bringing me down? Why can't he come UP to my standards of behaviour?

[–]SupremeDearLeaderFDS Newbie 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This toxic " sex positivity " garbage is everywhere, from the real housewives franchise to public schools/academia where older predators groom young naive students.

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