Even OTHER men can sense LVM/NVM/ZVM’s red flags with women at the beginning of a relationship, such as “being too busy.”

0tterpop · 2022-01-16T14:35:45+00:00

When women don't like you we disappear into the night forever, when men don't like you they disappear until they decide they need some easy pussy.

myheartisfulloflove · 2022-01-16T16:33:23+00:00

"Believe it or not most guys are very decisive about the kind of woman they want."

This, this, this, this. It is also why, whenever a man decides to "settle" for a woman they're not that crazy about, he treats her like fucking shit while lamenting about the kind of woman he dreams about that he could've had, or should have married, had life been kinder to him.

If he's not jumping through hoops for you, making your life easier and more pleasurable on every level, or if he's seems a bit too keen on an ex-gf or a female best friend or a new female coworker at his job or what the fuck ever... the blood is on the walls and you're just shutting your eyes closed at this point.

Peacefully let him go, block, and move along. It really is that simple.

Geocities_SEO_Expert · 2022-01-16T09:03:23+00:00

An exbf was future faking me (and himself) one night, and I brought up some similar big "plans" the husband of my friend had. He immediately laughed and told me the other guy was never going to do shit. I was so confused, because I honestly thought he would be interested in how a similarity ambitious man was making plans. They definitely know.

Colour_riot · 2022-01-16T11:21:24+00:00

The 3rd screenshot:

Believe it or not most guys are very decisive about the kind of woman they want. And most guys know whether there is any potential within the first meeting.

Um hello, women too. both genders have certain physical standards, period. That's really all you take away from the first meeting because everyone puts their best foot forward.

Only women are expected to lower theirs.

When I was younger, guys would often ask in social gatherings "what my type was", and they got big mad when I said that I knew within the first instance whether I would ever be physically attracted to a guy (and I haven't been wrong). I didn't even list the physical standards, just said that I knew.

Now I realise it's just guys knowing that they didn't meet my physical standards and were angry that they couldn't manipulate me into bed

daisy_0720 · 2022-01-16T10:20:07+00:00

This is why LVM hate FDS so much. It's not because we're telling lies about them. It's because we're telling the TRUTH.

They're furious that a) we're smart enough to catch onto their games and b) we're handing other women their playbook so their manipulation tactics aren't going to work for much longer.

StrawberryChocQueen · 2022-01-16T07:23:35+00:00

And that’s why I always preach to others that men will reach out first if they’re interested! That’s a hill I’m willing to die on. If a man wants you, you’ll know. I’m never going to reach out first to a man, never. Here my favourite motto comes into play: If they wanted to, they would.

DivineGoddess1111111 · 2022-01-16T07:30:26+00:00

Yep, they know.

Watch them gaslight women in relationships subreddits about sporadic texters though.

They always play devils advocate for other bros.

East-Willingness513 · 2022-01-16T08:04:49+00:00

I’m surprised they were this honest

jijitsu-princess · 2022-01-16T16:13:35+00:00

I so needed to see this post right now. Today. Dudes are not indecisive. They are just hanging on to you for easy pussy knowing you are waiting for their next text.

Edited to add: just learned the last dude I was dating has a girl friend now. Confused the fuck out of me while we were dating as to what he wanted but only one week out from me ending it he has a girl friend off of Tinder. I just wasn’t willing to put up with his emotionally uncommunicative, unavailable ass.

rengokusmother · 2022-01-16T10:51:21+00:00

It's so funny how every man and libfem pickmeisha shits on FDS and treat us as some demons for presenting these points all to be proven correct by men themselves. See? They know. They're not the emotionally challenged buffoons they present themselves as on the internet. THEY KNOW. they're very well aware of when they don't show interest, affection, or effort into a relationship. They just don't care and weaponise incompetence even in emotional issues to make women handle majority of the workload. If this isn't enough proof idk what is.

That place is often times a great subreddit to catch men in their own lies lmao. There was one post about if they thought of their female friends sexually and most said yes, another post where they spoke about if they'd date or marry a pornstar/stripper and most said no (but I thought you respected them and their profession and were pR0 sEx wOrk!1!1!???), And so many more where they've admitted to wanting to cheat, attraction to their partner's friends or their own exes they're friends with, initiating threesomes intentionally with women they were attracted to so that they can ethically cheat, so so much. Gems after gems in that place, they really love lying to their partners and denying being shit :/

ButterfliesHurricane · 2022-01-16T08:21:50+00:00

Yes they know but I appreciate those who are honest about it and don’t engage in the collective gaslighting. HV trait right there.

BasieSkanks · 2022-01-16T23:01:54+00:00

So, men are allowed to have the same dealbreakers we list without being called "toxic" or "misogynist". Just goes to show much society gaslights women into accepting unacceptable behaviour. It also reinforces the point that most men wouldn't tolerate half of the bad behaviour women are expected to put up with and "ComMUNiCaTE!" their way out of.

notstrongenoughyet0 · 2022-01-16T10:50:46+00:00

this makes me sad tbh, to see how simple it is and how so many men aren't even willing to do that.

SatanicSuperfood · 2022-01-16T13:00:21+00:00

I'm recently started seeing a guy that is good at communicating. He is always straight with me and answers my messages as soon as he is online. Ladies, don't come up with excuses for why he doesn't text you. Don't hold back your love and affection to try and manipulate him into texting you more.

If he lacks good communication and you're bothered by it, then you're gonna have a bad time. Good communication is not a HVM trait, it's the bare minimum of any relationship.

How are you going to have a healthy relationship if you can't count on him? If he feels okay about disappearing for days without keeping you updated? Then you¨'re not a priority.

lolmemberberries · 2022-01-16T14:50:12+00:00

This is why HVM have no problem with FDS and LVM do.

2022-01-16T10:22:36+00:00

Yeah, men know. They just act like they don't to cover for their bros and have some "plausible deniability" and weaponize their incompetence against you. Well, at least there's honesty in that post.

The replies about how men know if there's any potential from the get go and that if a man is always "busy" it's because you're his only option/he has other options and doesn't want you really gave me closure to a situation I was in pre-FDS. I was chasing a NVM who was really good at masquerading as a HVM and a (pseudo-)"intellectual". He was always "busy". Never around to hang out with me, never responded to my texts. So I just ghosted him and his friends too(one of my closest friends was encouraging me to chase him, because turns out he was some kind of wet dream fantasy about women chasing him cus he's insecure af. So he never had my best interest in mind and saw the red flags in how that guy was treating me but blamed me anyway. Ew... No more male friends either).

Then when we met, I explained why I felt disrespected (mistake, don't give the LVs any explanations please) and he kept trying to make excuses about how he was "busy" and "tired" and "bad at texting" (the last one is my favorite LOL. Wtf does that even mean? How many minutes exactly does it take for you to check a few texts and respond? Because it's not that fucking hard). Needless to say I no longer talk to him, his friends or anyone else who is LV.

I now aggressively live by "if he wanted to, he would" and I never chase a man or give him the time of the day if he starts becoming flakey. Fuck inconsistency.

salthoney · 2022-01-16T08:48:36+00:00

I'm not even mad, just glad they're honest.

Deep down all men, including LVM know what we discuss here makes sense. They just don't like us telling all other women not to put up with less etc... b/c it means they have to make more effort. It's easier to call us "fat f**cels" or "c**k-carusel riders" so that other women won't check this place out.

StatusPop- · 2022-01-16T09:49:29+00:00

Of course they know, they just have fun gaslighting naive women by pretending they don’t know what their male gender does.

good-day-throwaway · 2022-01-17T04:19:53+00:00

I'm never falling for this shit again. My ex told me that he 'didn't want to put a label on things'. Should have bolted that very second instead of wasting 12 months. 🤡🤡

mynamesnotjenniffer · 2022-01-16T09:49:28+00:00

Can you drop the link? I want to see the comments.... o.O

Nearby-Day2341 · 2022-01-16T13:20:52+00:00

Can I see a link?

plqnetezeurg · 2022-01-16T13:54:10+00:00

where is the post please?

Gazing_ · 2022-01-16T19:52:38+00:00

Do you have the link of this thread?

Reasonable-Slice-827 · 2022-01-16T09:49:07+00:00

Watch for Counter Intuitive to Relationship statements from men DURING a relationship too!

Title	Even OTHER men can sense LVM/NVM/ZVM’s red flags with women at the beginning of a relationship, such as “being too busy.”
Author	CakeSprinklesUnicorn
Upvotes	1157
Comments	54
Date	January 16, 2022 7:13 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/s56a4p/even_other_men_can_sense_lvmnvmzvms_red_flags/
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