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[–]NoThisIs-PatrickFDS Disciple84 points85 points86 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
"Less uncomfortable working conditions"
He doesn't proof read because I think he doesn't mean what he said here. Or I can't read.
"Different career choices"
Oh? Like what? What about that glass escalator effect?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_escalator#:~:text=The%20glass%20escalator%20refers%20to,healthcare%20work%20or%20school%20teaching - feel free to refer to sources cited in the wikipedia entry
There isn't an equivalent effect for women who enter into male dominated professions. In fact, women who enter male dominated professions often deal with sexual harassment. I know many female machinists and women who work in tech, and a guy I've been seeing who works at a major video game developer company has mentioned the same. Also, women who join the military are often raped (if you want sources go get your own - I promise there are plenty).
It's men who keep women out of male dominated work.
Dumbass.
ETA:
Also, men are told to be "emotionless robots", meanwhile try getting a word in edgewise with a male romantic partner in a heated discussion. Be prepared to be told you are "crazy" whenever you try to speak up about shitty behaviour or when you want to work something out that's been bothering you.
[–]EclecticBarbarellaFDS Disciple25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Silly me, the thousands of years women weren’t allowed out of the house and were shunned out of jobs, that was us oppressing them... Men are so fucking clueless if they can’t see that they’ve been in charge for fucking ever and anything that’s “the way it’s been” we had no say in.
[–]whitecherriezFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most men in the military hate women, especially if a woman is in charge and they have to obey her. They assault women (and other men!) to assert their anger and dominance, enjoy seeing women get hurt, and gather STDs through cheating/sleeping around like a storybook heroine picks field flowers. Ladies, stay away from military men!
[–]Tell-Me-WhyyFDS Newbie49 points50 points51 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
In the emotionless robots part, it's mostly MEN that impose that on MEN. Why else do men have women friends or girlfriends (apart from sex)? Emotional labour. Because they cannot turn to their guy friends and talk about their mental health or feelings or come out to, but they can with their women friends or their gf / partner.
A lot of the mainstream feminism (I don't agree with it, but) or most women, don't shame men for having feelings, mental health issues and actually want to improve it. MEN created toxic masculinity, not women. Most women don't shame each other or men for having normal feelings. It's MEN NOT SUPPORTING MEN! But men will always find a way to twist things, or blame women for everything 'bad'. If they're not happy with it, then THEY should offer support to their male companions and hopefully receive it in return.
Many tend to be a bit emotionally stunted anyway :/
And that's usually an excuse they give when you talk about feminism or women's issues and hardships.
[–]ello-mottoFDS Newbie25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
THIS.
Toxic men are the ones who keep other men in their prisons of be "emotional robots". Us women have never demanded that from men. Top complaints of women in dating is that our ex boyfriend was "emotionally unavailable" or that we grew up with "emotionally unavailable" fathers.
Women don't want that bullshit either.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gurl every man I have known was emotionally unavailable. How tf is that normal? It aint.
This is SO TRUE. How many guys have I dated that told me 'I don't talk about these things with my guy friends, we don't discuss things like this'. ALL OF THEM. The only person they could talk about their emotions/fears or even their DAYS were with me. Thats sad but we aren't imposing that on you and if anything we encourage you to do it more. This isn't our doing its THEIRS. I have always had women in my lives I could talk to just about anything. I can't say the same for my male friends. Don't blame us for things YOU are responsible for.
[–]eveninghopeFDS Apprentice53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I don't even know how to respond to shit like this. Men make more than women in the SAME fields. The people hiring men for unsafe jobs are other men. The people giving men shit for being emotional are other men. Hey manosphere, maybe y'all should be addressing the patriarchy too?
[–]Proud-PurposeFDS Apprentice34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men make more than women in NURSING.
[–]pink_lionessFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The people hiring men for unsafe jobs are other men.
It's also mainly men that apply for those jobs, no one forces them. Literally men complaining about problems they're responsible for.
[–]EclecticBarbarellaFDS Disciple18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ve worked two different jobs that were considered “male”, dangerous fields and every single man in that field made my life a living hell until they learned I didn’t care and would work circles around them while they were busy flapping their gums. They do their best to keep us out and then go “but you don’t choose to do what we do”. It’s maddening.
[–]Phoenix__Rising2018Ruthless Strategist4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unsafe jobs that they make way more money for... Anyway I worked minimum wage no benefits at an office job doing recruiting for company that mostly staffed men. We had men tell us they were going to come back and kill us all with their guns because we didn't give them a job immediately. This was a regular occurrence. We actually had to have a security staff and cameras.
Any way the most unsafe job is prostitution by like 1000% more.
[–]cherryloafFDS Newbie19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
These are the most pathetic and worthless kinds of males. The woe is me ones. 🙄
[–]MaisiebrFDS Apprentice14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If I had a cent for every time a man said those things... There is a post about this, guys. We've heard it a fuckin thousand times. Get a grip, please.
[–]GrapeJuiceEnthusiastFDS Apprentice13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ffs I'm fed up of arguing against this shit.
[–]howdoilogouttFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Your pushin it a bit too far" - this is when we know we're making real change.
[–]timetofliptablesFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The attitude of every oppressive class when we dare say “no.” Like... we haven’t even BEGUN to feel what true equality would be like. None of the women I care about, or any women in the damn world, are every truly safe from being a victim of assault or rape. We haven’t even achieved the very most base level of equality: safety and bodily autonomy... and yet we are “pushin it too far.”
Fuck. That.
[–]KelsConditionalFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Active in r/antifeminists.... ok buddy just say you hate women and go
[–]not_a_femmePickmeisha™️7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Buddy" "Males are opressed" 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤣🤡🤮🤡🤣🤡🤣🤢😂😏😜🤪😭🤔🤪🤭☠🤣🤮☠ WHAT???? IN WHAT WORLD?!
[–]seraphinelysionFDS Apprentice8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine living in a world where the system has been rigged in your favor and you still can't get ahead and need to find someone else to blame for all of your short comings.
[–]RamenUndergraduateFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Hey buddy" 🗑️🗑️🗑️
[–]_tinyimpFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like how scrotes basically just protect their own life onto all men in the world. Your anecdotal evidence hardly says anything when women’s anecdotal AND hard evidence overwhelms whatever he’s trying to say. He didn’t have to expose himself like that LOL
[–]not_a_femmePickmeisha™️4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Being told to man up is so awful! I mean just imagine how fucking awful that is!!!!!!!! Thank God they're not being told to dress better so they won't get raped! Because that would just be waaaay too much.
[–]MagnfiqueMaleficentFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or lose weight otherwise they have no value as a human being and no right to exist on earth.
[–]pink_lionessFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
These men are the worst, they only bother to look up those things when they're arguing with a feminist. It really irks me when people pretend to care about a cause.
[–]Elegant-StopFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If we had equal rights I’d be able to walk alone when the sun goes down but I can’t so he can shove it.
[–]EquipoisonousFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Men: the wage gap is fake, women choose lower paying jobs so they can work fewer/more flexible hours.
Also men: I expect my wife to be the primary caretaker of our kids, she will do all the pick ups and drop offs to school, sports, and play dates. She’ll be the one to stay home when they are sick and meet with teachers at school. She will make all the meals and clean the house as well!
[–]Cat_With_The_FurFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tell him to cite some sources. Another example of men thinking their opinions are facts.
[–]gcfemtasticFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"People laugh at us" "percieved weak"
You mean MEN, other men. Its men policing men and women's behaviors and roles. Yeah there's women who go along with that bullshit, but they suck and aren't generally in power.
You know who has been pushing against those shitty male-prescribed restrictive toxic gender roles??
Feminists. Feminist movements. Womanism. Women lead political groups, organizations and activism.
[–]glazedhamsterFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man up and learn to use punctuation, champ.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do they even bother doing this? If I see something I don’t like on Reddit (or the internet in general), I just move on. I don’t start sending private messages to strangers.
[–]NottodayScroteFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
He probably also thinks women still arent allowed in the military . They all slept through history class. That or this is some weird form of denial to cover their gulit. Ya know? Make themselves out to be the victims instead so as not to face the truth.
[–]tiredaligator19FDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love the idea that men are supposed to be emotionless. It's like ah yes you are right the gender that got lobotomized and diagnosed for having emotions/displaying them too much is allowed to show so much more emotion than the gender, that will always be seen as logical and rational even if they shoot up a school.
[–]Platipus6FDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The phrase "males are oppressed" IS hilarious though.
[–]CassieGreen85FDS Apprentice0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All I see is a lot of "waaaahhh waaaahhh waaaahhhh muh penis!"
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LMAO. 'You're pushing it a bit too far'. Oh damn. Calling men out on their horrific abusive behaviors is pushing it too far. Talking about our experiences w said men is pushing it too far. Protecting ourselves from men who will abuse us and destroy our lives is pushing it too far. Fuck outta here!!
[–]TheTower_14FDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"I know you have problems but what about ME blah blah blah". You know I wouldn't even mind talking about male issues if they actually gave a shit. They only time they bring them up is to get women to stop talking about theirs. Like foh with that
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