Seen on Facebook. No, teach your sons to stop murdering their partners.

AnniaT · 2021-10-22T23:11:39+00:00

They also forget that when women leave abusers (as they should of course) is when they're more vulnerable to murder or other type of retaliation from their abusive partner.

Kimpractical · 2021-10-22T23:32:50+00:00

With every new case I hear people preaching “be careful ladies!” How much more careful are we supposed to be? Miya marcano was at home minding her own business when the maintenance man (who had a key to her apartment) let himself in and attacked her. Gabby petito was on a trip with her boyfriend, the person who’s supposed to protect and care for her. Sarah everard was killed by a COP who she thought was trying to help her get somewhere safely. At some point people have to realize that telling women to be careful doesn’t help at all. We’re already doing all we can all the time. These fuckers don’t even care about going to jail. If you’re not going to tell men to do better, then at least quit giving us useless advice and get the fuck our of our way

Determinedblonde · 2021-10-22T22:55:47+00:00

Because it’s so easy to walk out of the door 🤷‍♀️

Mobile-Sprinkles-901 · 2021-10-22T22:20:36+00:00

why not both?

also teach moms to support their daughters and recognise the signs of abuse. it seems obvious, but trust me there are a lot of pickmeisha moms forcing bad advice on their daughters, and acting like having a man is the most important thing in life.

when i was in abusive relationship, my pickme MOM told me I couldn't come home, and I needed to stay and WoRk ThInGs OuT because marriage is sacred. i almost did come home in a coffin.

she did the same thing to my older sister as well. :(

I had a coworker who was being abused and couldn't go home to her mom. it's pretty common.

BBQCoolRanchQueen · 2021-10-23T00:14:27+00:00

"Failed marriage" and "Failed relationship" shouldn't be words we use to describe a woman fleeing a scrote. Those terms puts the blame, usually on the woman, for not being in a successful relationship.

fogplum · 2021-10-23T01:22:21+00:00

I mean...a lot of families, at least in my culture, teach their daughters they have to stick it out and make it work no matter how her husband is treating her because divorce is the worst thing that could happen. Parents of women in abusive marriages need to hear this message.

If this is in reference to Gabby Petito, that's a much different situation since it's clear her dad at least was not supportive of the relationship.

Let's be real, men will never stop abusing and murdering us. We have to protect ourselves and our teach our daughters to protect themselves.

Thereismorethanthis · 2021-10-22T22:05:32+00:00

Also, almost all the comments were like “sons too. Let’s get rid of the stereotype that only men murder their partners.”

Oh, gee. So close yet so far off 🙄

AnniaT · 2021-10-22T23:11:51+00:00

They also forget that when women leave abusers (as they should of course) is when they're more vulnerable to murder or other type of retaliation from their abusive partner.

Sewud · 2021-10-23T02:58:43+00:00

Kind of misses the point that some women have no "home" to return to. Gabby died even though she was in open communication with her family and had a place to go home to, they still couldn't see anything wrong with Brian Laundry even after they were stopped by the police for an altercation. Imagine how it is for women who are more isolated than that.

For me the takeaway is ask women around you how their relationship is doing, even if you have no suspicion it's going badly. And when people tell you it's going badly, follow up on it. One time my older brother called me to tell me a news and in doing small talk he asked me how my relationship was going. I said it wasn't going well because my boyfriend wasn't nice to me and he was forcing me to go on a trip. My brother was just like "k" .

localgirlcult · 2021-10-22T23:24:48+00:00

That's worded so fucking stupidly. It should have just said that YOU should make sure that your relationship is such that your daughters know they always have a home to come back to and you won't make them feel like trash or blame them. tEaCh yOur daUghTeRs my fucking ASS, as if women and girls aren't constantly told that it's their own fault if something happens to them and repeatedly told don't do this, don't do that, don't, don't. don't. And so we fucking don't. And it's still not good enough.

NotUrAverageBoo · 2021-10-22T22:34:30+00:00

So important. I was just on the Gabby P sub and someone has loaded a video thats been edited a video to only show her. It made me think about her parents worrying about her on that trip, worrying about danger from others or accident etc. never thinking for a moment (from what I understand) that the danger was right next to her. How many other parents or friends family feel the same about their loved one? How often does any ask “do you feel safe” . For mental health here in Australia we have the ‘r u ok’ day. Maybe this is something we should be conscious of and bringing up more often.

dembar126 · 2021-10-23T01:52:50+00:00

I agree with both because women ARE taught that we have to make relationships/marriages work no matter what and if we don't we failed at life. That causes women to stay in shitty relationships far longer than necessary, and it needs to stop.

I know a few women who divorced their husbands and moved back home with their parents just to have people make snide comments about them.

ashesofgrey · 2021-10-22T23:10:53+00:00

Yes, it's kind of victim blaming but I'll take this advice until I see all this male depravity die down to the core, which I doubt will happen but still.

This is why FDS is so important. It will teach us to not end up in such a relationship to begin with.

millions_ofpeachs4me · 2021-10-23T01:16:25+00:00

It’s both. The podcast from last week with the Jezebel article talked about this. Men, even good men, benefit on a societal level from male violence, so we can’t expect men to act against their interests in women’s favor. Women have to look out for ourselves which means being cautious and altering behavior to avoid danger. It sucks. It isn’t fair. Denying that reality does not help women.

And yeah, men should also stop acting like animals.

PinkestMango · 2021-10-23T12:31:37+00:00

This means "don't be ashamed to return home". Because in many countries, that's a stain on the family. This is not about a guy at all, and in fact this exact post helped me get away. I think you sorely misunderstood it.

Constant-Wanderer · 2021-10-23T00:00:18+00:00

Por que no los dos?

Specific-Composer300 · 2021-10-23T08:53:02+00:00

I think this advice is still good because honestly men are genetically more prone to violence and there will NEVER be a reality where there are zero cases of domestic abuse no matter how much you educate men. So yes of course teach men it's wrong and hold them accountable, but we also need to reach women the tools and skills to empower themselves and trust their gut and leave dangerous situations (yes I know it's often easier said than done). It actually irks me when any advice to women on how to keep ourself safe is seen as "victim blaming." No, it's acknowledging ths reality of life and nature of men and understanding there will ALWAYS be some bad men around so unfortunately we do have to be careful. Of course it's not fair and I wish it weren't like this, but it's what we have to do to keep ourselves and other women safe.

Technusgirl · 2021-10-23T18:23:07+00:00

Leaving them is usually when they become violent and murderous. I agree, it's the sons who need teaching

IAteTheDragon · 2021-10-23T03:15:54+00:00

Lol, are they threatening us or literally trying to list things that are 'better' than getting murdered?? I have one: not getting murdered! 😃

watchmeroam · 2021-10-23T05:57:27+00:00

Both your title and the posted image are correct.

Title	Seen on Facebook. No, teach your sons to stop murdering their partners.
Author	Thereismorethanthis
Upvotes	2425
Comments	44
Date	October 22, 2021 9:59 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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