There are a lot of whiny articles recently about how men don't go to university at the same rate as young women, don't work as many hours as they used to, and in general participate less in society and rather play video games or something. This naturally comes at the expense of traditional life attainments such as working yourself to death, having an insanely expensive wedding, and being the sole provider for a family that will eventually kick you out.
Just a few examples:
Put a Ring on It? Millennial Couples Are in No Hurry
— New York Times
Why are millennials putting off marriage? Let me count the ways.
— Washington Post
Commitment-phobic men are the real reason women are having children later.
— The Spectator
Hookup culture isn’t the real problem facing singles today. It’s math.
— Washington Post
One-in-Four Millennials in their 30s Are Unmoored from the Institution of Family
— Institute for Family Studies
The lost boys: Video games more fun than growing up.
— The Globe and Mail
If you read through these articles, you will find that the theme is men bad because they refuse to play the social role written for them. It's mostly from the perspective of how this creates problems for women in the long run, but still that's the core of it.
Contrary to what these journalists would have you believe, I think these young men are acting completely rationally when opting out of this life script. There just aren't enough incentives to play this role, it is too risky and too exhausting, and I can personally see how one would derive way more satisfaction from hanging out with ones mates, playing video games, or being in a band. Young men don't owe society anything. We should just live and let live, and let people enjoy their lives in the way they want to, instead of judging them.
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If you want to wander off further into cringetopia, make sure to check this out:
Marriage makes men better: The economic benefits of settling down.
— Mercatornet
How Science Explains The Common Man's Fear Of Settling Down In Love
— Elite Daily
It’s What He Does Online That Matters Most: Gaming, Porn, and Relationship Quality
— Institute for Family Studies
The share of Americans not having sex has reached a record high.
— Washington Post
America’s sex recession could lead to an economic depression.
— CNBC
Edit:
Thank you all very much for the positive feedback and the support here! I'm really glad to see that we, both men and women, can actually have a productive and civil discussion, and that men are there to stand up for each other. Also, thanks for all the awards, never had that before!!
[–]FuturePigeonFDS Newbie117 points118 points119 points (31 children) | Copy Link
Behold the "master" gender ladies. Let Darwinism sort them out.
[–]m4dam3xFDS Disciple41 points42 points43 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I came here to say this. Darwinism at work! Bye boys.
[–]femurfataleFDS Disciple32 points33 points34 points (8 children) | Copy Link
I didn't know they were openly stating they hated pleasing their partners now! What a time to be alive!
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points (6 children) | Copy Link
Yep, there was a time when a man who can't satisfy a woman was considered not a real man. What has porn done to society?
[–]Petra-24FDS Disciple-4 points-3 points-2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Never so grim it isn't useful for something. Meaning, it makes it far easier to discern which men don't have empathic ability.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
It's not that simple. Humans have the ability to change and adapt. Porn does impede the ability to emphasize and if young men grew up with it, it will affect them. If they quit though, things can certainly improve.
[–]Petra-24FDS Disciple1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, no, I decided from pretty young that I was never ever going to try to "save" a man. I hate it when women play dumb in order to try to make themselves attractive to men who are easily scared by independent women. Those type of men are usually a-holes. They're projects that will never change, just suck the life force out of you.
I stay well clear of men who lack in the empathic department. Maybe some can change. But most will suck you dry of any jeux de vivre you have.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Omg, no, no woman should make it her personal mission to save a man! That's recipe for disaster. I was talking about the issue on a societal level. If porn is not as ubiquitous things will definitely improve.
[–]Petra-24FDS Disciple16 points17 points18 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Exactly! The problem is that not everything is supposed to breed to the next generation. The problem is that monogamy and oppression of women have made it so men don't have to compete or prove that they are breeding material. This has only turned out poorly, not just for women, but even for men. These men prove that.
Genes like those these men have are supposed to be weeded out, not be bred to the next generation.
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[–]rainisthelifeRuthless Strategist[M] 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
You’re a literal retard. Bye incel.
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[–]rainisthelifeRuthless Strategist[M] 3 points4 points5 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like you’re fresh of your 10th sexual rejection of the week. Which is sad since it’s only Tuesday. You’re an incel cuck that women recoil in disgust from. No one wants you and no one ever will. Cry more about it.
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh my, then you wouldn't mind being labeled a loser by society I hope. Oh wait, you don't like that.
I'm against bashing men but losers who refuse to grow up need to be called out on it.
[–]greatmanatee2FDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Why should we call them out? Isn't it better to let them think they're right so that they don't procreate?
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean they can be shamed privately and publicly. You can certainly choose to be a loser and jerk off all day but you can't get upset when people are rightfully calling you a loser.
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[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points (12 children) | Copy Link
I was just gonna share this to discuss it. 😂😂😂
Finding a high quality man is just gonna get so MUCH harder for us Gen Z gals. Wish I was lesbian at this point ...🙄🙄😂
[–]TheOGJammiesRuthless Strategist[S] 24 points25 points26 points (8 children) | Copy Link
I don’t think this is so much the fault of women as it is late stage capitalism. Capitalism is not working for the vast majority of people and there’s no reason to think it will or that they’re going to be happier with marginally more money they would get working hard at an office so men are checking out.
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Don't forget we live in the age of endless distractions and many kids grow up watching hard core porn and not playing outside.
[–]1Here4BachFDS STRATEGY COACH10 points11 points12 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I kinda agree with you and kinda don’t. Late stage capitalism is only a small part of it. Nothing is stopping them from participating in self-improvement related hobbies that have nothing to do with capitalism like playing pick-up basketball, going hiking and camping, painting, learning a instrument etc.
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[–]1Here4BachFDS STRATEGY COACH10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I can guarantee most of them aren’t even working out.
[–]femurfataleFDS Disciple2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree
[–]drazumifujitaFDS Newbie38 points39 points40 points (5 children) | Copy Link
I would absolutely be with a man who made less/worked less than me, if they were pulling their weight at home. A house husband would be great. Clean house, healthy food on the table, happy kids, martini and slippers at the door? Sign me the fuck up.
However, the reality for my generation is that women became the breadwinners and the career overachievers, but men are still doing fuckall at home. A lot of us are working full days, then coming home to hours of responsibilities while men are fucking off all day and night with porn and videogames.
What's in it for us? Literally nothing.
[–]ino_y6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"SinGle moMs r a sCoUrge" yep well, it's less work once you drop the dead weight.
[–]1Here4BachFDS STRATEGY COACH58 points59 points60 points (4 children) | Copy Link
You know what. I’m fine if they do just that. They’re taking the weakest links out of the gene pool and we should be grateful.
What bothers me is they expect women to have sex with them when they’re like this. Of course some “gamer girls” and other subsets of women will be perfectly okay with their husband’s playing video games all day but the majority of women won’t.
They think they can sit at home all day and their dream woman will fall out of the sky and give them endless love, intimacy and affection with zero self-improvement or effort on their part.
I’m continuously improving myself in all aspects of my life. I’ve done so since I was in high school I expect nothing less from the men I allow into my life.
As long as they resign to the little holes they call “homes”, live out the rest of their existence as hermits and don’t bother the rest of functioning society I’m all for it.
[–]greatmanatee2FDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't think there's anything wrong with playing video games per-say. It's just that, certain men who are already prone to addictive behaviors replace drugs/alcohol with video games.
[–]1Here4BachFDS STRATEGY COACH19 points20 points21 points (0 children) | Copy Link
There isn’t anything wrong with playing video games. I, myself play about an hour and a half every week. But everything in moderation. What they’re describing is an addiction. They play video games from dusk to dawn.
They’re using video games to escape from their lives instead of fixing what’s wrong and then claiming that what they’re doing is totally healthy and normal. It’s not. It’s not normal to want to play video games all day every day.
It’s a coping mechanism that they use to escape the reality of their deteriorating emotional and mental health.
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[–]rainisthelifeRuthless Strategist[M] 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s depressing to you because you’re bitter about women advocating for themselves and getting what they want out of men. Let it continue to hurt your irrelevant feelings that a lot of the women here are successful and have used the strategies here to benefit themselves in their interactions and relationships with men. When you’re done crying your hot tears and tearing your hair out, you’ll go sit down.
Until then, bye incel.
[–]femurfataleFDS Disciple18 points19 points20 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm glad they're single. In a parent sub I'm in, they just torture women until they get the guts to take their kids and leave
[–]SaltCupcake 37 points38 points39 points (1 child) | Copy Link
This is all fine with me. You want to avoid commitment and be a child? Go for it! However, when you can’t find women to date you, when you’re not getting promoted and the younger guy that put in the effort did, or you can’t afford a house: don’t complain. Don’t call women gold diggers when you can’t measure up and don’t blame society.
You don’t have to work yourself to death, you don’t have to have an expensive weddings. These are all choices. You can still contribute to society without jerking off into your sock and playing video games as if it were a full time job.
Side note: I wonder what the correlation between video games and useless men are. I swear most dudes on FDS Superfans are active in gamer subs. Plus useless men my friends date game too.
[–]Ms_TillyRuthless Strategist59 points60 points61 points (28 children) | Copy Link
Women will be fine. If we want kids, there are sperm banks. If we want sex all we have to do is be available. If we want meaningful relationships or a social life, we have friends.
The reason I have the things that I have and get to do the things that I do is because I work hard. I've been single far more often than I've had a useless man. I was a single mom even when I was married. I take our kid to all his extracurricular things even now because his father and stepmom can't be arsed.
I feel like the lazy, self entitled bums will weed themselves out of the gene pool eventually. It will leave room for quality men in the future.
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I feel like a lot more women will be sharing men in the future, it’s the only part I’m sad about.
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[–]BalkankaFDS Disciple-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
Share the benefits and split the issues of a man with a woman who can help rear children and bear responsibilities (when we know the majority of men don’t take the brunt of the work anyway). Sounds like good home economics 😂 in a very fundamental mormon kind of way lol but who know what it will be like in the future with all these low quality men opting out.
[–]Ms_TillyRuthless Strategist21 points22 points23 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I'll just stay single rather than do that. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
[–]femurfataleFDS Disciple16 points17 points18 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I think that's what women are doing now. You can't opt out of being a woman, but you can opt out of dealing with a shitty partner.
[–]randomgirlimokFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points (7 children) | Copy Link
I think there will be a lot more lesbian relationships. The only thing men have over women is a penis, and there are strap ons for that lol
[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
yo I have literally tried to turn myself so many times, being heterosexual sucks
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True haha, and the dudes have always had porn. Or they can drop their toxic bro culture and go at it with other :D. In all seriousness tho, im just slightly depressed about all of this....
[–]randomgirlimokFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Me too, knowing that I will never find a decent guy. Im 40 and divorced my porn addict ex. There are NO guys my age without baggage. I’m trying to be ok with just being single.
[–]TheOGJammiesRuthless Strategist[S] 5 points6 points7 points (9 children) | Copy Link
Or men will be sharing us...who says you have to be monogamous?
Beta Bux/Alpha Fucks forever
Marriage has always been for the loser to mediocre men in the gene pool
[–]BalkankaFDS Disciple1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Gotta agree. I think a lot of younger women here want to believe in that passionate and possessive forever love with one person. As you get older you realize we just have to handle and use the man in ways he is useful and not invest yourself too much in any other way because one whole man isn’t enough usually. You can get what you truly need from a handful of them to become fulfilled as one usually fails to do the job properly.
[–]TheOGJammiesRuthless Strategist[S] 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I agree. The vast majority of men are incapable and/or unwilling.
[–]BalkankaFDS Disciple2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
That’s how I’m living now at 35 and have never been happier. I go to sleep not worrying about:
Does he still want me?
Does he love me?
Does he think about other women?
Am I enough?
Probably why I’m aging at glacial pace tbh!
Edited: oh, and I don’t have to be anyone’s mother, to boot! Not having to waste time cleaning up after a man or solving his problems does wonders for stress levels. So much time for my own life and activities!
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[–]rainisthelifeRuthless Strategist[M] 5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
You’ve tried and lost incel. Your comments here are as irrelevant as your life and have been dismissed as such. No one cares about you.
Go be a cry baby bitch elsewhere.
[–]rainisthelifeRuthless Strategist0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. Exactly. Very easy to date multiple men for different purposes now. And if the current set of men don’t work out, then switch out for a new one. Women always have inherent value, some of the guys you get might not always be the ones you want, but you can keep them in your life for the benefits they bring you.
[–]gigababejflFDS Newbie30 points31 points32 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm all for people doing whatever they want so long as they are not hurting anyone or costing me a fucking dime but also, that shit has to be the most unattractive thing of all time. So those same guys waving their unambitious flags high? They are the same ones weeping about Chad and not getting pussy. Like you're proud of being of no use but you demand the opposite sex still want you like some sort of winner.
And this shit about kids as if there aren't loads of young women who rather stay childless and ball out on a dual income home. These people will have you believe marriage is nothing but hell but when life shows it ass, like it ALWAYS fucking will, lemme see the forever girlfriends who make it to year 8, year 10, and didn't trade dude in for a grownup with functional masculine impulses and good dick
Men who are attractive to women are having a moment. Just like a thin woman in a sea of obese women will have far higher SMV goes the way of the Reddit male. Nibbas really think they are being avant garde by saying they want to be teenagers forever.
Hey guys, does anyone remember when black men were the so called scum of the earth and the boogeyman talking point for being exactly this? It's now forward thinking now that all men are doing it? Oh, ok!
🙄
Edit: shout out to all the white men in the comments who make it clear they are the true victims of this feminist society. Women not wanting to latch on to unreliable men who cannot produce during childrearing is evildoing and it proves society is out to get them. Golddiggers are bad but so are working women.
May nature do as it will but I don't wanna hear shit from the Aryan nation groups about their dwindling birthrates.
[–]CSQUITO23 points24 points25 points (2 children) | Copy Link
“OPTING OUT OF SOCIETY”
I beg someone tell me what that even means it sounds like a manifesto written by an 8 yr old to convince his mum to stay at home instead of go to school - using big words he doesn’t understand
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Yep, how are they opting out of society? By using the internet society provides, eating the food society produces and distributes, living in houses built by society? Unless they go and live in the woods they're not opting out of society, they're just being lonely losers.
Do drug addicts opt out of society?
[–]reddituser39682 26 points27 points28 points (0 children) | Copy Link
IF I CAN'T COERCE WOMEN INTO BEING WITH ME BY TAKING AWAY OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES THEN I WON'T GET PUSSY. AND IF I DON'T GET PUSSY THEN I'M NEVER LEAVING THIS DAMN BASEMENT.
[–]leninleninleninlinenFDS Newbie21 points22 points23 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Hurr durr women evil. Ugh those comments. I would date a man who earns less, because realistically I'm more intelligent and I have a higher earning potential than most men.
Or like, I could always be single. Men like to blame everything on us instead of the fact that the world THEY built is failing.
[–]masterofthebarkartsFDS STRATEGY COACH19 points20 points21 points (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm friends with dudes like this. I have dated (and dumped) men like this. I did not MARRY a man like this though. I married a man with a career, but more than that, I married a man who had some goddamn courage and ambition.
You know why these men are so repulsive to women? Because they are telling us - loud and clear- that they are trying to do the absolute least possible amount of work for the maximum amount of fun and pleasure. These men have done the math and have realized that just barely scrapping by still gets them like 80-85% of what they enjoy. A shitty job that they barely have to work at for 30 hours a week gives them just enough money for a crappy apartment, cheap beer, high speed internet and video games. And that level of like, fourteen year-old dopamine-seeking subsistence is enough for them.
What does that tell us? It tells us - so loud it's deafening, once we bother to listen - that they will only ever put in the bare minimum of effort for anything: work, housework, us. They cannot be relied upon to be equal partners for an adult woman because they fundamentally want to avoid adult responsibilities as much as they can.
Who wants to sign up for 75% of the work being a adult couple entails? Who wants to go out, earn a living, and then come home to an underemployed man who won't go back to school because he's worried he might fail? Won't take a promotion because it might interfere with his gaming? Won't do housework because he thinks it's "fine" and you're the one who's bothered, so why should he have to?
Its exhausting. Its boring. And it's also just really depressing, knowing that you'll have to drag this man child into every phase of adult life kicking and screaming. And what do you get for supporting this man who is so crippled by his fear of failure that he can barely complete a job application?
You get to listen to him complain. FOREVER.
If your man is an underachiever; if he doesn't work on himself; if he won't try new things; if he's never fallen and had to pick himself back up; and if you have to WORK TWICE AS HARD FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF BABYSITTING THIS MAN CHILD?
DUMP HIM GIRL
[–]greatmanatee2FDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Goddammit, I feel personally attacked right now. I am the female version of these chums lol. The main difference is that I am actively trying to work out my insecurity and self esteem issues in order to get my shit together. But this is why I'm TERRIFIED of dating- I'm already trying to "adult" properly to keep my head above water. How tf am I supposed to help a man-child out who is even worse than me? Lmao.
[–]missyou2017FDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Same sis, same
[–]TheLastUBenderFDS Disciple1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Adulting is hard. Don't choose the easy way because you are afraid to fail. It's worth taking a risk or two in life.
[–]masterofthebarkartsFDS STRATEGY COACH1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Trying to work on your issues to get your shit together is very valuable! We all have to go through times of growth and struggle; that's entirely different than actively deciding to be mediocre forever because you're lazy :)
[–]randomgirlimokFDS Newbie22 points23 points24 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Playing video games with your kid does not count as being a fatherly figure or spending quality time with them. It’s no different than saying the kid comes over and they watch TV. No wonder he’s divorced. Man child that wants to do nothing but play video games, go figure.
[–]femurfataleFDS Disciple9 points10 points11 points (3 children) | Copy Link
That one cracked me up. I don't have to be a husband anymore and now I can be a father.....by playing video games
[–]randomgirlimokFDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points (1 child) | Copy Link
He probably only sees the kid every other weekend too
[–]femurfataleFDS Disciple8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And the guy who won't get a better job because his excuse is his child support would go up
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Yeah, just doing whatever your kids wants you to do doesn't make you a good parent anymore than feeding your kid junk food because they want it makes you a good parent.
[–]reddituser39682 13 points14 points15 points (2 children) | Copy Link
If that thread doesn't prove that misogynistic incel viewpoints are common among men, I don't know what will.
[–]ino_y1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
should see the deleted comments in this one :D they were feisty last night
[–]reddituser39682 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I tried to look but most of them were removed too quickly to be archived. Lol. I'm sure I know what they say though. Men aren't very original.
[–]gravedestruct1onFDS Apprentice15 points16 points17 points (6 children) | Copy Link
I’m going to paste my response here that I used from my alt account. That post speaks volumes and I hope this is just the mentality of reddit men.
I don’t get how these people aren’t dumb, financially speaking at the least. If you’re not going to university then you’re prospects in the job market aren’t great in society unless you have connections or have a trade. However, being skilled in a trade requires you too work a lot of hours for the most part. If you do none of these things, work a low wage job, while spending money on video games than you’re not saving. If you’re not saving you’re one accident away from being screwed financially and potentially falling into debt. Aka you loose your job, and you don’t have a back up fund....well you’re going to be fucked. Get into a car accident but your insurance deductible is at least 3k? Fucked. Don’t save for retirement? Well good luck working until your 80. Underachieving doesn’t get you anywhere but more problems for your future self. I’d rather work my ass off in my twenties, go to university, try and own a condo or house one day so I can save myself some stress later on down the road when my health fails or I eventually get old.
I’ve seen what my parents make and how they struggle with a low wage job (they’re immigrants) so why waste that opportunity that you have here to try to at least own an asset or study something that will provide you with benefits and more mentally stimulating work later on.
Makes no sense.
Also most people can’t be a sole provider these days with this economy.....so I really don’t get that point. If most people can’t be a sole provider and you have to be in a relationship with someone who also works, except they achieved well and you didn’t then you’re not pulling your weight in the relationship
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[–]50sweet25ice5 points [recovered] | Copy Link
this sub's use of tendies got me cracking up sooooo much
[–]Winter_InevitableFDS STRATEGY COACH8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I have dated guys who make way less money than me and their lives were a non-stop turnstile of problems and stress due to lack of funds... I decided I no longer want to date someone who is always struggling, because I want to have fun, travel, and experience the finer things in life.
[–]gigababejflFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Everything you explained makes perfect sense unless you're a massively entitled overgrown infant. THEN, the logic of real life does not follow for you.
What makes sense to you, if this is what you are, is that women (who will be harmed in the long run trusting u and being with u) are evil and that society has disincentivized you. Society is against you for not giving you accolades and handouts that it won't give everyone else.
Yes but women working is bad and also women wanting men to pay things is bad. Struggle living is good so long as it doesn't make one of these dudes feel like an emasculated loser. See?
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Yeah I legit don’t understand this. Literally all the guys I know who game (and prob watch porn)in their free time are in STEM. Atleast they are pursuing an education in a valuable field. I literally can’t understand how one can just game.
[–]extraacct1234Ruthless Strategist14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A race to the bottom
[–]PurblWaspFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And when they in a few years realize what nobodies they are for not having learned or accomplished anything at all, during the darkest nights, they will blame... everyone else.
[–]Winter_InevitableFDS STRATEGY COACH11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
My last FWB worked construction, and really struggled with the inconsistent hours and schedule in order to live the life he wanted. He would routinely show up to work, and no one else on the team would roll in until 10:30-11, then they'd go dark for weeks at a time with no work. I recall that I asked him--"Uhh, how do your coworkers get by?" He went through each of them, name by name, and ALL of them (all guys) lived at home with their parents still.
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43 Upvotes.
Wow there's too much baggage to unpack here. So beggars and dead-beat fathers didn't exist before the modern age huh? No successful men either huh? Just middle class over-worked mule males "forced to sacrifice their dreams and aspirations" (of playing videogames 24/7) to work... and all they got in return was families and respect.
[–]Equivalent_Crow42801 point [recovered] | Copy Link
Scores will get mad when you point this out. Of course they are happy. Men are the happiest when they have the accountability of children aka having their pickme wives make excuses for them, have the responsibility of children such as sit on their ass all day in every household, have high standards but women need to pick them out of love. But want the authority of a manly man who defends and provides.