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[–]arindam_420 124 points125 points126 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
THIS IS LITERALLY SEXISM!
[–]xNOM 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And leftists love this shit. It's their version of gynocentrism. Let women pretend to be adults. It's somehow "better" than the tradcon version where the men pay for everything. Just shows up in a different column of the ledger. Men end up paying, no matter what.
[–]RT-AC66U 94 points95 points96 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Are you in California? You can sue
[–]seahawkguy 55 points56 points57 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Vegas? Either way I wouldn’t pay that much to go to a club. Back when I went it was $20 and even that was too high for me.
[–]DJ-Roukan 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Padding the hen house for old men who have not figured out they'd do better just buying a hooker for the 40 seconds they need, rather than an entire night of pandering, placating, paying the same and going home to their hand.
...and with it legal, what your dick could potentially bring home from a club formatted that way, will stay in Vegas.
[–]teeny_big_tree 77 points78 points79 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Claim you identify as a woman then sue them for discrimination.
[–]Easy7777 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Sorry we're at capacity"
[–]fuckeveryone________ 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Capacity?!
[–]Thadster 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To someone determined, that could be a moneymaker.
[–]FalconGK81 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's Ma'am! Ma'am!
[–]popzi 64 points65 points66 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
oH BoY MeN SurE DO HAVe It EaSY!
[–]sonofsuperman1983 54 points55 points56 points 7 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link
Only a desperate man would pay that charge.
[–]Ragnrok 45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago (42 children) | Copy Link
So you're saying this place is going to get a lot of business.
[–]sand313man 7 years ago [recovered] (41 children) | Copy Link
Like it or not, it works. Clubs have always done things like open doors to females first.
A healthy male/female ratio is fine.
Honestly this suites men more.
What are you going to do in a club filled with men?
Just instead go have a drink at a local bar, have a nice meal, watch the sport with a group of guys.
[–]SchalaZeal01 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
You're assuming women are staying home, when they can't be entering for free or much cheaper than men. They're not. Make it illegal everywhere to discriminate in pricing, and they will still go.
[–]sand313man 7 years ago [recovered] (19 children) | Copy Link
No, I’m not assuming that.... you’re the one with sexist thinking here.
Don’t fall into the feminism trap. Or should I say what you are doing here is maleism.
The simple fact, is that market economies work.
Part of the idea of clubs, is to attract ‘wealthier’ men, in smaller number to meet a variety of women. In a sense clubs try to be exclusive with their clientele, because they can charge more. Make more money.
By raising the social status of the club, the money flows.
Now women are known to spend alcohol, on women even as an ice breaker. Men also want to go to clubs with an abundance of women. They don’t want to be in a ‘cockfest’.. again, you can go to your local bar and watch the sport and have a beer with mates.
So by ‘feminist’ and ‘manist’ standards it would be ‘discriminatory’. But in the real world, it’s just influencing the social dynamic of your target clientelle.
[–]kotabear2121 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Yeah we understand the idea behind the sexist exploitation dipshit we just dont support it because we have morals we see as more important than making money at a fucking bar/club
[–]sand313man-8 points 7 years ago [recovered] (17 children) | Copy Link
Its not sexual exploitation...
Men pay high prices at CLUBS, because they want to make connections and meet/socialize with a more elite crowd. And have a healthy female to male ratio.
Clubs ALWAYS have a target market. High end clubs, have an entrance fee, precisely to attract a different clientele.
This is a fee, their high end clients actually WANT to pay, to keep the rif raf out. But they also want, a higher female ratio, so its not a fucking cockfest.
Now often times, these clubs attract a lot of pretentious fucks. But they spend money.
Often times the better night out, is actually with the rif raf. But you are clearly not understanding how Clubs facilitate their target markets.
[–]kotabear2121 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Right right right so if i charge whites extra because they statistically have more money than nonwhites and we want a higher diversity rate amongst guests so it isnt a klan rally, im not REALLY racist, im just exploiting a quirk of capitalism. This is a fee people WANT to pay to keep the rif raf out
Thats EXACTLY how you sound
[–]sand313man-9 points 7 years ago [recovered] (13 children) | Copy Link
Clubs have been known to increase prices, on the spot, if they do not like how you look, or if you look drunk.
What you mention about race, is something that actually did happen in the past. And we moved past it, by acknowledging that we are all the same.
But I refuse this bullshit postmodern thinking that men and women are the same. THEY ARE NOT.
And its god damn time people acknowledge that.
Lets all agree, to do what is best for the women, and best for the men, at the same time. Women do not need to lose their womanhoud, and men their manhood.
[–]kotabear2121 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Discrimination on the basis of sex is absolutely no different than discrimination based on nationality or skin color.
Men and women being different has absolutely no bearing on this, and is literally a defense used by racists to justify the exact same type of discrimination against people who are "just different"
[–]sand313man-2 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yeah yeah.. except its not.
I discriminate on men, every time I think about my natural urges.
You can not change biology. If they are the same, why dont you date men?
And if you do.. Power to you... But then you are discriminatory against women, in 'preferring' men.
They are NOT the same.
[–]kotabear21218 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
What if im bisexual and im attracted to whoever i please because im a human being and we dont all fit into your childish stunted little perspective of what a man and a woman should be
[–]KxNight1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I get your point mate but like why not make the prices the same. Its ridiculous that it’s different in the first place.
[–]sand313man1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
lol.. Because people want a nicer female male ratio.
It also gets rid of some of the 'college' boy crowd (Rowdy group) so they get a more upscale working crowd.
Frankly a lot of clubs have women for free oftentimes.
You see, if you fill a club with women... Men will want to come STREAMING in and also pay for it. As well as create long queues and demand for the club. (Clubs need to maintain an image also - or they lose popularity and close rather quickly. One of the reasons clubs often have to close down, re-brand and reopen)
Ever seen a ladies night? And the first couple of guys that enter after the 'ladies' get early access are like pimping it up.
Sometimes they even sell Vip tickets, and they sell those first, and people even pre book, for their high spenders.
Its a combination of business decisions together with what their 'target' markets want.
Also more, women to male ratio = less fights. You get a less 'scrappy' image. Its often done in 'higher end' clubs.
Honestly, this is so old school male club type mentality, I find it funny that males are the ones bitching about it. It should actually be the females. I think its good for everyone. But I might entertain a case, from the females that it 'devalues' them.
And when I say its good for everyone... I do not mean for all clubs.. I mean for the ones who chose to do it. Other clubs, are run for other types of people and crowds. And so these are all ways for the club owners to service their target markets.
But its a good way to get a club buzzing also.
Why is a higher female rate desirable?
Also please understand I genuinely understand you point of marketing and business tactics. But why isn’t it the other way around? If it was the other way around feminists would go mental. $40 is enough to get highclass males and females since all the ‘college boys’ go to free entry clubs. To have one higher than the other just makes no sense to me regardless of this desirable female to male ration bs.
Because men want to get laid you fool. And I explained it above.
They do not want young college kids being obnoxious either.
If it was the fucking other way round, nobody would come to the club.
Cockfests repel men. Men do not want to enter a club filled with other men. They go there to meet a girl either romantically, or to get laid basically. They can have a boys night or drinking night at a pub. You do not go to a club to hold hands with other men, unless maybe you are gay. And thats why we have gay clubs.
Imagine being the first woman to enter a club filled with men, who came to see women? hahahaha
She will get hit on 100 times in a minute. It would be a disaster. She wont even like it.
Now a man walks into a club filled with women. Bitch please. That man and his group of friends is styling.
Again.. Men and women, do not work the same way. Clubs know this. Feminists and maleists (kinda made that up but still) just don't get it. This is how postmodernists think. Pure equality.
But the two sexes are not the same, and they do not psychologically behave the same way either.
The way it is, is because of these differences.
Its a two way street.. Women want sex too.
And clubs arnt damm brothels. A lot of people only want to drink and dance with friends and such.
I dont see a problem in having the prices equal as its not like one guy is going to take home more than one girl at a time. I think you have a lot of (understandable) bias here.
With clubs and expectations of men and their wants.
Men do not want to dance with Men. They go there to pick up girls.
Those that are there just to dance around, quickly get bored, and no longer go clubbing or go very rarely.
You don't get it.
One girl at home at a time? Rofl.. dude.. You are going to get turned down at a club if you approach a woman a lot of the time. If you have more chances, you are happier.
Even the person who is shy, and struggles with women, likes more 'chances' to succeed.
You must be from a younger generation. Someone fucked with your brains man. I do not understand how you can not understand how this works.
I guess maybe the tinder generation does not need clubs/social events anymore.
I mean Ive only known people to go there to get drunk and dance. Never been the type for one night stands so Id expect a different type of social group between us.
I do recognise that people do look for sex at clubs ive only been to cheap clubs cos im broke af. And im 20 atm so judge as you will haha, got a great gf so i wont be clubbing for sex anytime soon.
Couples go clubbing less often. Fact.
You do not understand the crowds and people who go regularly.
If you are in a serious relationship with a girl you like at 20.. Good for you.
Clubs are overated anyways. But if you want to understand something, its not by assuming it is tailored for people like you.
People spend money, they buy girls alchohol. Club owners make a ton of money.
You simply are not understanding the demographic or the bussiness model. And are doing some sort of round about equality bullshit stand, for god knows why.
So if you are going to now say, you met a nice girl you grew up with. Go to church.. Asked her out nicely with permission of her father, and fell in love? What a wonderful story mate. again GOOD FOR YOU.
Maybe you met a lovely girl at college without the booming artificial bullshit music. And had a good conversation and you got along. Good for you! You did it even better!
You do not need clubs. Clubs for you, are a waste of time and money. I get it. The way you did is better. I really get it.
But you are still refusing to understand how and why clubs work.
Well anyway cheers for the perspective, genuinely appreciate it.
[–]SoftDeveloperReturns 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gender and race are the same thing in a legal sense. Both are protected classes and you cannot charge one more than another in most civilized countries that have impenetrable anti-discrimination laws.
[–]SoftDeveloperReturns 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The thing is, most "ladies nights" are the biggest cockfests around. There's usually ALWAYS more men than women there because of the monumental amount of creeps that are responding to the advert.
[–]sand313man1 point 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Nobody gives a shit anymore.
[–]imba8 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
An unhealthy ratio spells trouble for the club. When I lived in Darwin there were way more guys than girls every pub and club. I've seen more fights there than I have anywhere else.
[–]sand313man2 points 7 years ago [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link
exactly someone gets it.
Its actually more volatile and can even turn dangerous.
[–]imba8 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I think a lot of people don't really understand economics, hence the distress. People are saying they wouldn't go to that club because it's too expensive / unfair. That's price controls doing their job.
[–]SoftDeveloperReturns 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Unless it's in women's favor, right?
If your answer is yes, then you are guilty of a double standard.
[–]imba8 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to a club with a high male to female ratio. They put a price control on male entry. Some males would be dissuaded to going to that club by the high prices, some will still go. The end result is a more evenly distributed male to female ratio. You can say it's unfair and I'd agree with you, but the price control is doing its job.
Yeah and we could say that the profit that the slave owners made off the labor of african slaves was "doing its job" as well.
Something "doing its job" doesnt make it ethical. Or moral. And I'd rather support venues that treat people equally than actively discriminate against everyone of my gender.
[–]sand313man1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Yep exactly... And the elites, are smilling ear to ear, that they do not have to deal with those people.
Club owners are smilling, because they have a wealthy clientelle not caring to drop a grand in a night.
Men are smilling because there is an abundance of girls.
Women are smilling because they got a discount, and get to meet the rich bachelors...
People just like to virtue signal, and not accept the reality of the world, which will not change, no matter how much they moan.
It is changing super fast actually. 4 states have signed on to banning "ladies night" because it is the only logical thing to do. It's a double standard because if the same business did the exact same thing in regards to race, there would be an uproar of protests.
But yeah, women being favored more than men in clubs is quickly dying out. Only a couple clubs per city (except maybe Vegas) even have them anymore because everyone is shit scared of being sued for favoring one gender over another. And they're right to because no business should have the right to discriminate in any way. We learned enough of that from Jim Crow.
It actually doesn't. Anyone who claims that is being beyond ignorant. I used to attend bars all over my main city on the weekends that had guys in it, such as sports bars (for example, since there are usually just guys in there wanting to watch sports), and they never descended into violence of any kind.
A bunch of guys being together in one sitting, and it descending into violence, doesn't have much evidence behind it. And the theory of "bringing women into a room with a bunch of violent guys" is honestly pretty asinine of a claim to make. Considering that would mean that those women would be more at risk of being raped, since these guys are apparently "too violent to be on their own" anyway 🙄
[–]sand313man1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol.. Did you intentionally google this, to find it several months later.
Google what?
In most "ladies nights" I have been to, there was always more guys than girls. It becomes a hot bed for some of the unsavory creeps that are responding to the advert.
[–]imba8 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OK
[–]darksky86 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I remember when ladies got in for free
[–]Luchadorgreen 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Seriously. If guys want to waste their money on this bullshit, let them. A fool and his money soon part ways.
Many clubs give women free entrance expecially on certain nights.
And who says you are wasting money. Just rock up with a bunch of women.
[–]problematic_coagulum 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
suits*
[–]JPTrader6041 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Yup you're right it benefits men by not having a sausage party. But this is just one example of female privilege that nobody talks about. Men work their entire lives to have as much sex as they want, women are born with that ability. Other examples include quality of life while pursuing dreams, repercussions of failure, and now, in 2019 it includes actual opportunity.
Look how unattractive the woman is. She's gonna have an easier time getting a one night stand that night than 80% of men.
sausage party.
You mean the ones that happen at a "ladies night" since it's most of the time more guys than women?
[–]zgembo1337 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or a stupid one.
[–]Lanntheclever47 38 points39 points40 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow it's oh so hypocritical of a NIGHTCLUB of all things to try this; a place where Women have always had preferential treatment over Men.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course it is. Paying different rates to people based on their gender is immoral. If it were done the other way around, every feminist would cry misogyny.
The literal definition of discrimination is a business giving preferential treatment on the basis of sex.
"It's always been like that" isnt a good defense. The same argument could be made for slavery.
[–]TheGilrich 18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Let them know on Google reviews: XS Las Vegas Club
[–]benjamimo1 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Done!
[–]imba8 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man, I bet Drake won't play there now.
[–]jostler57 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Literally every single big/famous club around the world pulls this crap.
The price for a thing is the amount you can get for it, and since young men are desperate enough, they’ll spend the bucks to hope for something that rhymes with bucks.
[–]captainmarchingband 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ducks?
[–]CRZR_ 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Trucks?
[–]jostler57 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Schmucks?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bare knucks??? Nunchucks???? Good lucks???? Dead ducks??? Nip/tucks????
Also.... Keanu Reeves rhymes with bucks!
[–]jeff_the_nurse 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Say you identify as a woman.
[–][deleted] 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
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[–]Types__with__penis 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Everybody says that women are so horribly discriminated in middle east but people never mention stuff like this...
[–]basketOfHammers -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not the same bro, not at all.
[–]grannyowl 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminist: Its not enough The men's money should go to us!
[–]BelievesInGod 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hi my name is Jack, i sexually identify as a female, heres $40, bye.
[–]Kruciff 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I mean, this is more capitalism than sexism, though it is definitely sexist.
[–]MisterDamage 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Many forms of gender discrimination are more capitalism than sexism. The question is, is it OK to tolerate one kind when it's not OK to tolerate the other kind?
[–]DanteLivra 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's definitely discrimination, but most club do things like that.
[–]TheOtherJola 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pay up your Freedom Credits and drink the Freedom Juice.
[–]BarefootUnicorn 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Look at that "woman" though! A better pricing scheme would be "fit" $20 / "fat" $100
[–]GerinX 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Lol so do the men see this and walk away, laughing at the thinking behind it? I would. Great deterrent to earn men’s business.
[–]imba8 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The club is doing fine, people pay it.
[–]GerinX 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ouch.
Because they're pathetic and horny.
If by "people" you mean "pathetic horny beta-males who are so pathetic they're willing to sacrifice their own humanity and be discriminated against just for a better chance to get laid" then yeah.
[–]aMutantChicken 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i will identify as a woman for just a second...
[–]Luchadorgreen 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m surprised women have to pay at all tbh.
[–]rooolng2 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Even dumber that men will still pay for drinks on the inside. Its hilarious telling a women to buy their own especially early on in the night - it nags on them all night, then after they are drunk off other guys drinks they come back all angry but yet flirty. How dare a guy says no to her!
Standup to the stupidly and don't get used by women. The good ones that are into you will respect it.
[–]RT-AC66U 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men are subsidizing the womens free alcohol.
[–]meggamatty64 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wait that’s illegal
[–]MontyAlmighty 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To be honest.. Who'd wanna go in there if they treat anyone like that? The club is probably filled with sweaty feminazi SJW hogs. 😅
[–]HesperianDragon 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I am actually okay with private businesses discriminating in their clientele.
Clubs should price to promote the best ratio of clients. There should be male only and female only gyms. Businesses should have the right to refuse to make wedding cakes that support something they disagree with. There should be those men only cigar clubs.
I just want the government and the courts to treat men as equal to women.
[–]ruleofmen 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I support the right of businesses to refuse service and having male-only/female only spaces. However, charging different rates for the exact same service should be illegal.
[–]HesperianDragon 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I respect your position, but isn't charging different rates for the same service extremely commonplace?
Children tickets to zoos and amusement parks are often cheaper. Senior discounts at restaurants. Veteran discounts at different places. I know in a couple chinese restaurants they have menus in english but promotional deals are on signs written in chinese so if you know chinese you get a discount and if you don't you pay more (it is wise to go with an chinese friend and let them order for the group).
After a while it seems like a business charging different rates for the same service is normal, different rates for male and female is just one variation. And of course, if you don't like it, go to a competitor, maybe this has no effect or maybe this causes the discriminating business to go under or change policies.
All private entities should be regulated and have California's Unruh Act to abide by or else be at risk of being sued.
[–]SoftDeveloperReturns 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you typed all that and still think Jim Crow is wrong, then you contradicted yourself.
Because "a business should be able to do what they want" was the justification for Jim Crow.
[–]HesperianDragon 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No. Jim Crow laws are wrong. A business deciding who they want to do business with is their choice.
All power to the businesses and none to the government. Let free markets do their work and bad businesses practices will kill off bad businesses. Jim Crow forced everyone to discriminate, without it the businesses that didn't would get more business and drive out the bad ones.
My consistent position is that government needs to GTFO of the private sector.
Jim Crow laws were put in place specifically so business owners in the South could discriminate against black people. The reason Jim Crow laws needed to be abolished so that businesses COULD stop discriminating against black people. Therefore, the entire idea of a business discriminating against black people in the Jim Crow era was the fault of the free market at work.
The free market can be a good thing to make money but no business should be allowed to discriminate against human beings for profit. Not in Jim Crow. Not on ladies night.
[–]HesperianDragon 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jim Crow laws were put in place specifically so business owners in the South could discriminate against black people.
So your telling me that the government was meddling in the free market to promote discrimination. Wouldn't the obvious solution would be not to have the government create the problem in the first place?
Let's walk through this:
The government enacts Jim Crow Laws.
Later the Government abolishes Jim Crow Laws.
You decide the free market is to blame.
The government created the problem and then fixed the problem it created, how do you derive the free market did anything here at all?
If you want to know what the free market was doing during Jim Crow era South watch this short video: https://youtu.be/VtpflAc2nWY
The free market allows for store owners to sell to whomever they want to sell too, but those who choose racism over customers lose out to businesses that have a pure profit motive. Like I said earlier, let businesses discriminate, lose customers and die. Businesses that value customers and profits will thrive. Only through government interference are discriminatory business practices able to compete with profit motivated businesses.
[–]synaptastik4 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
I get the inequality about it, however, I think this is just cold hearted free market supply/demand, not a systemic antagonism towards men.
[–]Morristron2099 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You could make the same arguement about not wanting to hire women of child bearing age.
[–]synaptastik1 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah you could. But what's your point? Do you want everything to be priced the same for everyone everywhere no matter what? That's centralized control.
My point still stands that this isn't systemic man hating, this is just people knowing men will pay more for their product. No one is trying to socially take men down in this club.
[–]MisterDamage 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's a double standard. If double standards are bad when they hurt women, they are bad when they hurt men. If you the system only thinks they are bad when they hurt women, that's systemic hatred of men.
Now, I would be down with the libertarian point of view if it goes both ways but don't try to pretend that this is treated as being OK when it happens to women.
[–]synaptastik1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Double standards aren't bad. I didn't say that. I would rather have a male Navy seal for instance. It doesn't hurt anyone, it helps society to have this double standard.
Your word "standard" is misguided. You seem to think everything should be exactly fair for everyone no matter what, all the time, which would make you an ideological feminist, albeit in just one of it's camps: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism_and_equality
Maybe you are a feminist, but I tend to oppose the notion of blind equality in all ways, especially when the outcome is central control of pricing.
[–]fromthewiastdown2 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Nice tits
[–]BarefootUnicorn 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is Vegas, where it's legal.
[–]DrMacintosh01 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sexual discrimination is illegal at the federal level?
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[–]grannyowl 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Me: shows my grandma this
My (feminists) grandma: ItS eqUAl. ThEy JUst WaNT mORe MOnEy.
[–]Vorpal_Spork 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What kind of "nightclub" is decorated like my grandma's house? Anywhere with curtains isn't worth going to anyway.
[–]ScreendeadGames 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All I see when I read this is "women are incapable of performing to men's standards, so WE THE MORALLY PURE will give them the same shit anyway"
[–]PFnct21VHN8o 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
$75 usd for a club? damn
people where i live earn $5 usd per day if they work full day, that would mean working 15 days if you're a guy and 8 if ur a girl, which of course i really doubt is worth
[–]SlothKitten 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
There's literally a good reason for that: if there is an excess of men, all the other men will leave. More women attract men, meaning more drinks are sold. Companies have a simple economic reason to do this.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Slavery was considered economically beneficial to the slave owners as well but that doesn't mean it wasn't immoral.
[–]SlothKitten 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No, I suppose economic reasons don't make something not immoral. But slavery didn't exist due to market forces, like this does, and was profoundly immoral because it reduced people to literal commodities. This doesn't, which makes the comparison moot.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It is the same comparison because your main argument is "it's because economics." When slavery was made specifically so that slave owners could profit off the labor of african slaves.
It wasn't really comparing ladies night to slavery. It was comparing that the argument of "it does good business" is fallacious. Especially since people have done immoral things in the name of profit since the beginning of time.
[–]SlothKitten 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But the argument is wrong because it isn't a matter of 'slavery was bad because economics' and also 'this is bad because economics'. Slavery was bad because it involved the owning of people, which is immoral. But this is fine, because it's necessary for the business to function possibly, and in no way takes rights from people, like slavery does.
[–]Kozak170 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean personally I'd never pay this much to get into any club at either price but it isn't hard to see their reasoning is to try and keep an equal male female ratio because nobody likes a club with just one gender usually.
[–]bhullj11 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nightclubs are crap anyway unless you’re filthy rich and can get bottle service. I don’t need to pay $40 to drink and listen to music.
[–]Geojere 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m pretty sure it’s because no one wants a sausage fest. If guys were the same price there would most likely be more guys than girls. This would happen all the time when I was in high school guys would have to pay to come to parties and girls were free. And these were parties hosted by guys.
There isn't much evidence to support that whole "sausage fest" theory. I mean, in my young barhopping days, when me and my friends would go to bars all across my main city that had no cover charge at all, there was always a decent ratio of the genders. Don't know where people get the idea of "women won't go unless they have an incentive" but it doesnt really hold up in comparison with other bars.
[–]MyLittleRebbit 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Isn’t this illegal? Discrimination?
[–]Tmomp -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
When I think of the Women's and Men's World Cups or the WNBA and NBA, differential pay to men and women seems to reflect supply and demand. Or with haircuts, women and men generally have different standards and interests so pay different prices.
If there is more demand for men to go to clubs (I'm not sure if there is, but say there is), should prices reflect that difference? How is this situation different than haircuts or sports salaries?
I'm asking because I don't know the answer.
[–]SchalaZeal01 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sport salaries are given on merit (you attract x crowd of people, here's a paycheck). Entry fees are given on inborn characteristics you did nothing to get.
[–]Leben_ 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
If you want to watch a men or women's game you pay the same regardless of gender to go watch. What you're talking about is the salary of players not the payment to view/get in. Unless you're talking about the price to watch a man or women's game which still is the same thing. Especially since higher class clubs are higher entry fees and lower class clubs lower.
If I want to watch Manchester United men or women regardless of gender I have to pay the same to get in. They only discount kids and elderly people in most clubs.
[–]PrettyDecentSort -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're exactly right. This is not a Men's Rights situation at all, this is a private business trying to make money and responding to the actual market forces of male and female behavior. Women get into clubs cheaper because they are the product that the men are paying for. Any man that doesn't want to pay that money for that access is free to go elsewhere and do whatever else he wants instead.
There are more than enough real examples of rights violations. Throwing stuff like this into the sub doesn't accomplish anything useful.
[–]gnulligan -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, this is unfair, but there's much worse forms of discrimination
[–]ChaosQueeen -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ehhh, if women had to pay as much as men, they wouldn't go to clubs as often. That would result in a lower women to men ratio.
I mean, if that's what you want that's fine with me, but then don't complain about clubs becoming a sausage party.
Is this just a flat admission that women are generally more cheap, in terms of paying for things, then men are?
[–]flaming_hot_cheeto -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How petty are we to complain about ladies night. It’s simple supply and demand anyway. This is pathetic
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