False accusations are suddenly a serious issue when a woman is falsely accused by a man. Feminists eat it up.

Auntie_Hero · 2020-03-24T01:04:35+00:00

" Listening to my recording of our conversation recently, I wondered why I didn’t stop Melanie at that point. Was she really saying that if they realized the accusations were invented, if the accuser herself was a fiction, they would still investigate? Did it not matter whether the complaints were true or false? "

I love how that's suddenly an issue when a WOMAN is accused.

2020-03-23T23:45:28+00:00

Turn, little worm! Turn!!!

tommygun1688 · 2020-03-24T02:19:58+00:00

I listened to the whole thing. It's bull shit that this woman still couldn't relate her story to men falsely accused, in fact she does just the opposite... A little past 10 minutes before the end of the audio, she compares what she went through to actresses deep-fake porn videos, or women being doxed & trolled online saying "our story is more akin to those stories than any thing to do with title IX". Shame on her, for showing so little compassion to other victims of false and malicious accusations. I'm not particularly proud of this position, but I find it hard to give a damn, if she's not going to admit that a "judicial system" that takes away many of the rights of those accused is deeply flawed. She goes even further, and actually defended this indefensible legislation.

Mr_Animemeguy · 2020-03-24T02:39:49+00:00

Disgusting double standard.

ToastyBathTime · 2020-03-24T04:04:10+00:00

Jesus Christ this is a news article not an autobiography, she needs to just get to the point

Egalitarianwhistle · 2020-03-24T02:59:20+00:00

They should know according to a bad feminist inference on a debunked woman's advocacy researcher's decade old study, that FaLsE rApE AcCuSsAtIoNs ArE eXtReMeLy rArE.

WeedleTheLiar · 2020-03-24T02:36:48+00:00

She's obviously guilty and trying to gaslight the accusers /s

Consilio_et_Animis · 2020-03-24T03:36:28+00:00

”...but the emails were authored under fake names, and it was thus extremely exhausting for them to prove their innocence.”

Oh well. If only we had something called “innocent until proven guilty” you wouldn’t of had to go to all that bother.

”The email accusations were incredible from the start, but the university insisted on proceeding as if they were real—indeed, the university felt obligated under federal law to take the matter seriously.”

Yes, it’s a little thing called “Believe every woman”. Enjoying it now?

Philletto · 2020-03-24T03:33:49+00:00

Her partner is a "writer of creative non-fiction". That has got to be an oxymoron. Literally Nineteen Eighty Four.

AnEnemyStand99 · 2020-03-24T07:02:23+00:00

I remember when my ex-girlfriend told my close friends that I raped her. She was to much of a pussy to go to the cops so she settled for just ruining my friendships. Neither of them wanted to hear my opinion and just took her word for it. Nobody believes guys when they claim they were falsely accused.

BornFreeWE · 2020-03-24T07:24:18+00:00

What's the problem? She wasn't driven to suicide, she wasn't hauted out of the country, she wasn't beaten up or killed.

So it is a mild case with mild implications on her live - compared with many thousand others.

ashvani_patil · 2020-03-24T07:49:04+00:00

Allegations of child sexual abuse are being increasingly invented by mothers to stop fathers from seeing their children, says a retiring Family Court judge.

Justice David Collier, retiring from Parramatta Family Court at the end of the month after 14 years on the bench, sees unprecedented hostility infiltrating the Family Court, and a willingness by parents to use their children to damage one another.

”If a husband and wife really get down to it in this day and age, dirt flies,” Justice Collier said.

The worst are those mothers who direct false allegations of abuse against former partners.

https://www.familylawexpress.com.au/family-law-news/familyviolence/falseallegations/false-abuse-claims-are-the-new-court-weapon-retiring-judge-says/1762/

Svenskbtch · 2020-03-24T08:25:20+00:00

Did we not have a similar feminist discussion recently about the unfairness of long-term alimony, triggered by women ordered to pay it?

This is ostensibly ridiculously skewed, but in the end good news. If feminists start combating false accusations, they would be hard pressed to argue it is an issue that mostly affects women and stop the measures from applying to male victims as well.

It is of course a valid question why, as far as we know, there are precious few male-female sexual assault accusations and almost no patently false accusation. To be fair, it has nothing to do with men being less likely to lie about it in general, and much more to do with the incentives we have put into place. As a woman, you simply are more likely to get sympathy and even gain financially.

Oncefa2 · 2020-03-24T12:01:51+00:00

In 20% of false accusations a woman is the victim. This is according to the FBI.

https://leb.fbi.gov/articles/featured-articles/false-allegations-of-adult-crimes

20% may be a minority but you'd think that it would be large enough for them to care about.

Instead they like to pretend that it never happens.

Even though 1 in 6 to 1 in 10 adults will be falsely accused at some point in their life...

http://www.saveservices.org/dv/falsely-accused/survey/

swansong19 · 2020-03-24T07:29:20+00:00

Archived link by-passing paywall

http://archive.vn/ytkrC

Egalitarianwhistle · 2020-03-24T08:09:00+00:00

This is being talked about all over Reddit. But this is one of the best comments I have found so far.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kotakuinaction2/comments/floj4k/huh_but_were_supposed_to_believe_all_women_metoo/fl02uoa?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

It was also meandering and full of superfluous information.

It's amazing she is a professional writer and an assistant professor.

Before getting to any semblance of a narrative or facts, her article included

constant mention of her two children and detailing their various weekend plans and social calendar

a strange anecdote about her daughter tearing up toilet paper that she tried to use as her closing take-home message regarding truth

reasons why her partner and herself find each other attractive

discussing the process of applying for a job for herself in great detail, only to turn the job offer down in the end

It's amazing how her partner and the writer could have gone through this potentially false sexual misconduct allegation Title IX process, write an entire NYT piece laying it out in excruciating detail, and manage to still make it all about yourself and your decision to turn down your "dream job" without a shred of insight or commentary that just maybe your whole experience suggests that innocent males facing the same baseless, anonymous accusations should be given some due process.

Mens-Advocate · 2020-03-24T15:13:39+00:00

The NYT and its readership are so profoundly, incorrigibly misandrist, that I prefer to post it in archive reference only, so so as not to give clicks: http://archive.is/ytkrC

Here's a classic comment, which the readership highly recommended:

Anne
San Rafael March 20
Times Pick
This should have been followed to the end, J. should have been criminally prosecuted (I don't think he was based on this), and you could have started a GoFundMe for your legal costs.

I read this story as just another attempt by a male to destroy women, it happens in the gay community at least as much in the heterosexual community.

335 Recommend

Kadmos1 · 2020-04-29T18:24:06+00:00

I am of the mind that any false claim, but especially false rape claims, should carry an absolute min. prison sentence of 3.5 years. By this, I mean that the lying claimant is to serve no less than that long (they serve the entire sentence unless they die in prison).

Pulp- · 2020-03-24T06:57:42+00:00

It's an interesting story and well worth the read. Too bad she stupidly links it to oppression / victimization of women instead of identifying the real issue.

2020-03-25T02:49:14+00:00

Decent coverage of it in Reason magazine. Doesn’t comment on NYT’s biased treatment of the issue, but talks a lot about the insanity of Title IX:

A Crazed Academic Weaponized Title IX Against a Rival Professor Whose Job He Wanted

-WolfChop- · 2020-03-24T00:18:34+00:00

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Title	False accusations are suddenly a serious issue when a woman is falsely accused by a man. Feminists eat it up.
Author	Egalitarianwhistle
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Date	March 23, 2020 9:26 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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