It's innocent until proven guilty for a reason...

KnightofNarg · 2019-04-11T19:19:24+00:00

Nicole raped me, I hope she does the right thing and turns herself into the police and pleads guilty, I don't need to suffer any more than I already have.

tb21666 · 2019-04-11T22:12:47+00:00

As a 'False Claim Survivor' from back in 1995, I'd like to give a wholehearted 🖕 to every & any Females who happen to share Nicole's flawed POV.

Tgunner192 · 2019-04-11T19:10:56+00:00

There are so many memes that get reposted over and over again. It starts to feel like we know the people in it. Sadly, this isn't one of them.

If ever there was a meme that needed to get reposted and spread around further, this is it.

theskullcrusher8776 · 2019-04-11T19:08:38+00:00

Are you implying that this female is dumb? You sexist bigoted privileged white male

dukunt · 2019-04-11T19:06:04+00:00

But this is a movie. Not real life. Surely you don't believe that a woman is capable of doing something so incredibly evil do you? /s

infinitecitationx · 2019-04-11T23:13:52+00:00

Heres the awesome edited version:

https://imgur.com/a/UVbhdFo

TheHoundThatRides · 2019-04-11T22:35:58+00:00

I once read a feminist say something like "it's important to keep women feeling like they will be believed if they come forward. If some innocent men go down in the process, it's a necessary sacrifice."

To be fair, not all feminists believe that. But it made me really sad when I read it.

tyjuji · 2019-04-11T22:30:08+00:00

SJWs sure like their human rights violations.

spreadhalfeagle · 2019-04-11T19:07:27+00:00

what a horrible belief

bluffinpete · 2019-04-11T19:11:59+00:00

Now now, don’t you dare let due process get in the way of my baseless accusations

ImJustaBagofHammers · 2019-04-11T22:41:40+00:00

I wonder when they'll start demanding they ban this book/movie for sexism.

edbrainaids238 · 2019-04-11T21:36:02+00:00

Right! Not only innocent until proven guilty, but presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. When there's a verdict against the accused rapist, they are a rapist according to court records whether you believe the victim or not. Otherwise, try to at least sneak the word 'alleged' in there every once in a while. Anyone who believes they are a victim can say it, but they might be required to fulfill a burden of proof in a court of law. Unfortunately, this can be difficult to do. It's a bad thing that so many violent sex offenders go unpunished, that doesn't make it right to drop any notion of possible innocence just because a woman might be a victim. Besides, it's not like everyone wants to start using the Stanford University sexual consent form. So.. Is there ever really proof of consent?

tht_pod · 2019-04-11T22:27:55+00:00

There was just a case in of a black male and white female who claimed she was raped. Surveillance video showed she was holding hands with the man when they left he bar to his place around the corner and they came back to the bar together after 5-10 mins. Within that time she claimed he raped her and she was too intoxicated.

SilverSolus · 2019-04-11T23:45:40+00:00

To Kill A Mockingbird is honestly one of my favorite books of all time, I read it at the perfect time (8th Grade) and for some unknown reason I always thought that scout was a boy until like halfway through the book I think they specify again and confirm she is in fact a girl. That always made it more memorable to me that I would make a simple mistake like that, and it helped ingrain the over all message of the book in my head.

Mugin · 2019-04-11T22:01:46+00:00

It's really crazy how civil rights activists managed to stop racist lynchings etc nearly 50 years ago and now the left, under the guise of social activism wants to lynch men more or less.

Pierce3737 · 2019-04-11T22:44:44+00:00

Guys I was just raped by this girl pls take her away I mean just believe me (also WTF is evidence never heard of it)

jackonpaperst · 2019-04-11T22:12:19+00:00

Stupid slag. That is all.

JakeDC · 2019-04-12T00:08:42+00:00

rape victim

You mean rape accuser

Liquor_Wetpussy · 2019-04-11T23:31:29+00:00

#metoo + #blm

...Fight!

oakleaf12 · 2019-04-11T23:38:16+00:00

Nicole raped me

Chemoralora · 2019-04-12T00:45:22+00:00

It's very generous of you to expect Nicole even knows what this image is from

MrMorsley · 2019-04-11T23:08:22+00:00

What a bitch. Disgusting attitude.

Supplyitwell · 2019-04-12T00:18:34+00:00

Who the fuck actually thinks like this??? This bitch has never been to the real world.

Worst part about it is it’s impossible to convince people like that they’re wrong.

tsulak_2014 · 2019-04-12T01:57:57+00:00

This is why I don't call myself a feminist. I prefer to just see all humans equal, but the golden rule still applies.

adelie42 · 2019-04-12T02:43:02+00:00

Wonder if Biden will get the #BelieveWomen treatment.

P4WWWWW · 2019-04-12T06:27:55+00:00

Why constantly hide the name of the person that posted something in public? Isn't that an agreement when you post in public?

Anjin-dono · 2019-04-11T23:58:18+00:00

https://youtu.be/LkQUdFMF0Zs

A_one_legged_man · 2019-04-12T00:50:54+00:00

Matt Damon raped me

Just_WoW_Things · 2019-04-12T01:10:36+00:00

The problem with democracy is dumb cunts have an equal voice to you

Rabb1tH3ad · 2019-04-12T01:55:00+00:00

Nicole raped me

ruqiao0809 · 2019-04-12T02:06:00+00:00

what's an idiotic disgusting ignorant bitch

disgrace to females

Fraser761 · 2019-04-12T02:26:18+00:00

Jebus.

igglyj · 2019-04-12T02:54:45+00:00

What's this movie?

CJPsalm139 · 2019-04-12T04:24:40+00:00

wow......"don't need proof" that's just bad thinking.

Ignecratic · 2019-04-12T04:46:24+00:00

Ok. You raped me, Nicole. We don’t need any proof right? Go to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Piss off.

N3d0 · 2019-04-12T04:46:47+00:00

Reddit doesn't really agree with this when it happens though (tends to be on the women's side).

lemmechoosethisname · 2019-04-12T05:41:49+00:00

Just because you would never lie, doesn't mean no one else would.

mnight75 · 2019-04-12T13:19:19+00:00

I believe this woman's difficulty is her conflating rape victim, with rape accuser. In ha er mind a rape victim has been raped and should be believed. Problem is not every rape accuser is a rape victim, and that's why we need it proven that the rape accuser is a rape victim. So while we should believe rape victims, we cannot believe rape accusers are rape victims until proven so. Women who disagree with this are the type who wants all rape accusers to be believed without question so when they file fake rape charges it can be an effective tool for ruining a mans life, at her word, at her lie.

backdoorinvestor · 2019-04-12T23:07:10+00:00

I hope Nicole gets breast cancer and then dies in a car fire 🚗 🔥

otsi7 · 2019-04-11T22:54:55+00:00

Believe? maybe, convict? Not unless there is evidence

anon5200 · 2019-04-12T00:05:23+00:00

Poignant

adelie42 · 2019-04-12T02:38:51+00:00

I'm OK with people believing people that make claims of rape without evidence.

I take issue with no due process in requests for a third party to lock the accused in a cage for it. That's the line.

xUnicow207x · 2019-04-12T03:07:28+00:00

I literally watched To Kill A Mockingbird in english today.

mrducci · 2019-04-12T03:10:43+00:00

Believing someone when they tell you they were raped isn't a conviction, its giving that person enough credibility to, at the absolute very least, not dismiss them or immediately blame them for what happened.

sukjkrolling · 2019-04-12T03:16:27+00:00

bro just wait nine months till the proof comes out of her

mrmensplights · 2019-04-12T03:37:39+00:00

Yeah, this one does caught a bit of trouble. That's ok, we'll soon get this book out of all our libraries.. it was already 7th on the most banned/challenged books in schools in 2017.

vivussmoo · 2019-04-12T05:29:47+00:00

It wouldn’t be justice otherwise

Izaran · 2019-04-12T11:34:54+00:00

I really feel that if a lot of people blindly parroting that line sat through a course on To Kill a Mockingbird they’d have a much better understanding of reality.

And no I’m not advocating for re-education bullshit. I recommend that book to everyone...it’s a beautiful piece of literature with a great deal of sense behind the simple outlook of a little girl.

danimalplanimal · 2019-04-12T12:45:09+00:00

yeah, who wants proof? white supremacists probably! all claims should be believed!

by this logic, accused rapists can all claim to be victims of rape at the hands of their accusers and really turn things around for themselves!

lemmechoosethisname · 2019-04-12T20:06:49+00:00

Well... You shouldn't need proof for a rape victim.

Someone who claims to be one however, you need proof of that.

xNS5 · 2019-04-12T00:23:36+00:00

Believe, sure. But also look into whether it happened or not.

realvmouse · 2019-04-12T03:02:22+00:00

There's a big difference between "you don't need evidence to convict someone" and "you don't need proof to believe someone."

roadtoD1 · 2019-04-11T23:45:21+00:00

Holy repost hell

Ippikiryu · 2019-04-12T00:38:00+00:00

I mean, there is a grain of truth in this, but people grossly misinterpret this every day. You shouldn't need proof to (act as if you?) believe a victim and offer them support, be a helpful person to them and make sure they feel safe. The horrible part is when the "act of belief" goes too far and gives them what they feel is the moral grounds to then attack the accused. THAT part is where proof is needed.

You could say that this is one of those incomplete statements like a "blood is thicker than water" quote:

"You shouldn't ever need proof to believe a rape victim -- but you absolutely do need irrefutable proof to convict a rapist."

petemate · 2019-04-12T05:54:04+00:00

Jesus, get a grip guys. No wonder mens rights face so much flak from women. This has nothing to do with sentencing of someone without evidence. It has to do with accepting the feelings of another person. If a woman(or a man for that matter) experiences something so traumatic that (s)he would label it as rape, you should be supportive and understand that said person is having a horrible time. That doesn't mean thay someone should be sentenced without evidence.

It is entirely possible to be raped without an actual rapist existing. For instance if you agree to do something you end up regretting later. In that case there is nothing wrong with believing and supporting the person.

Teebeen · 2019-04-12T09:39:23+00:00

So this is where all the soyboys hang out lol

Joemac_ · 2019-04-11T22:31:53+00:00

I think you're missing the point of what she said

Title	It's innocent until proven guilty for a reason...
Author	1MightBeAPenguin
Upvotes	4526
Comments	154
Date	April 11, 2019 6:10 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/bc34ul/its-innocent-until-proven-guilty-for-a-reason/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/its-innocent-until-proven-guilty-for-a-reason.1626001 https://theredarchive.com/post/1626001

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