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Title	Male Privilege? - Found this captioned picture while surfing, thought you'd all might find it moving as well
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	254
Comments	142
Date	September 17, 2011 7:16 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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This source is has total amounts for transitional/sheltered and does not include including chronic/unsheltered. Transitional Homeless:

Men accounted for 63.7% of the adults who used emergency shelters or transitional housing over a 12-month period.

Adults in families that are in emergency shelters or transitional housing are predominantly women (79.6%) whereas individual adults without children are predominantly men (72.7%).

From HUD's 2009 annual report, an offical acknowledgement why women are more likely to be sheltered while homeless

Single men who are poor may be more vulnerable to homelessness because of large gaps in the Unemployment Insurance program and because the largest safety net programs, such as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) and Social Security, are for families or elderly people. The share of unemployed workers receiving unemployment insurance has declined in recent decades and the gap may be particularly perilous for men because poor women are likely to be accompanied by children and thus eligible for TANF. Adult poor men also have higher rates of substance abuse than women, but substance abuse has not been a categorical eligibility criterion for SSI since 1996. Thus, some women may fall through one social safety net but be caught by another; men may miss them all. See the 2008 Annual Homeless Assessment Report. U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, Washington D.C. 14 The share of individual sheltered homeless men reported in the HMIS may be artificially high. First, the HMIS data do not include adults served by domestic violence providers, most of whom are women, because domestic violence providers are prohibited by the Violence Against Women Act of 1994 (reauthorized in 2000 and 2005) from participating in HMIS. Second, some shelters have policies prohibiting men over a certain age from sleeping in family shelters, requiring men and teenage boys to stay at men’s shelters alone.

And so what about the unsheltered:

On a single night in January 2009, there were an estimated 643,067 sheltered and unsheltered homeless people nationwide. More than 6 in 10 people who were homeless at a single point-in-time were in emergency shelters or transitional housing programs, while 37 percent were unsheltered on the “street” or in other places not meant for human habitation.

*That equals about 240,000 people on a typical night that are unsheltered. Approxemently 83% of them are adult male, with an additional 8-10% being boys under the age of 18. That means roughly 90% of the unsheltered homeless population are males, or about 204,000 males and 36,000 females *

Nearly two thirds of the people homeless on a single night were homeless as individuals (63 percent), while more than a third (37 percent) were homeless as part of a family. Family members were much less likely than individuals to be unsheltered. Only 21 percent of all homeless family members were unsheltered on the night of the point-in-time count, while almost half of homeless individuals were unsheltered.

People who are homeless by themselves are very different from those who are homeless with children. Sheltered individuals are overwhelmingly male. More than three quarters are over 30, more than 10 percent are veterans, and more than 40 percent have a disability. In contrast, adults in sheltered homeless families are overwhelmingly female, most are under age 31, and very few are veterans or have a disability.

A U of M study shows that this means, at least up in the late 1990's, 83% of unsheltered homeless were men, which would be about 188,000 adult men a night vs about 55,000 were either adult females or people under the age of 18, which is about 22% according to HUD. Of those under the age of 18, the numbers are about 60/40 male - female, meaning an additional 8,000 of those 55,000 are boys. Between 80-85% of unsheltered homless are men, seems to be the typical range found in most government and University studies.

And here is another interesting tidbit on HUD's study about males/females in poverty:

Gender of Adults. Most sheltered homeless individuals are men. In 2009, 71 percent of all sheltered individuals were adult men and only 25 percent were adult women staying alone. Assuming that most homeless persons are poor before using a shelter, the high rate of men among individuals suggests that for every 14 men living by themselves with incomes below the poverty line, 1 is likely to access a homeless shelter at some time during the year. Only 1 of every 35 women living alone in poverty access the homeless shelter system. By comparison, adults who become homeless together with children are usually, but not always, women. In 2009, 79.6 percent of adults in families with children were women. Women in families with incomes below the poverty line are 2 times more likely to use a shelter than their male counterparts.

Furthermore, this study is indicating that there are actually about 250,000 people on any given night that are unsheltered homeless. Yet what makes news? The rise in female homeless vets, like here and here. Of course a rise in any group becoming more homeless is troubling, but the media knows what pulls on people's heart strings. Instead of acknowledging the massive discrepincies in male/female homelessness, which HUD has admitted is due to the vast number of programs geared towards women (which most can be traced back to direct activist lobbying by feminist organizations), Michelle Obama is spending her time building houses for homeless females.

And ya wonder why men are starting to wake up the realization that male privilege is a nasty little lie, which has become so thoroughly engrained in our society and culture. Yes, CEO's and the top 1% of the super rich are men by a disproportionate amount, but a disproportionate number of the bottom of society are men. Does anyone really think the top 1-2% of men really give a shit about all the men at the bottom of society? Yet we keep spending more tax dollars and more college funds looking solely at the problems women face, and hardly a fucking dime on the problems men face. Feminists talk about glass ceilings, so I want to talk about 4 walls and a cot.

So, check our privilege at the door....what fucking door would that be?

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In my previous job I dealt with people who were on government benefits and could not get a bank account. A significant percentage of both sexes suffered from mental illnesses and/or drug/alcohol problems. For simplicity I shall refer to this subset as "nutters". There was a strong correlation between male nutters and homelessness. This correlation did not exist with the female nutters. Female nutters were much more likely to be sectioned under the mental health act (i.e. detained in the mental ward of a hospital where they received treatement) or living in supported housing where mental health nurses visited them regularly.

I did have some customers who were both female and homeless, but these were an order of magnitude less than the male homeless. I have come to the conclusion, based on my experiences of talking to many thousands of people living in poverty, that males are simply valued less by society.

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no, because men provide for themselves and others more regularly than females. and when a man can't pull his weight he is out, whereas a female is more likely to be able to play a social situation and freeload. I can't sight any sources on this, but the only counter point is the destitute male who jumps from woman to woman because the women have job connections(or welfare) which can help the man be the provider she wants, but if he can't, then he's out for the other men she's playing.

it's not really a counterpoint, but more fleshing out the argument.

so ask for sources if you want, or maybe just look around.

men don't get the welfare(wic, food stamps, housing aid, etc, etc..) it "goes to" the children, and women are the ones who "raise the children".

also, men are more likely to be incarcerated because the burden of provider in an impoverished situation leads men to make the rational choice and steal that fucking loaf of bread, or rob that convenience store, or grow fucking weed, because they are the provider. if women had to actually rely on the man then they would have their back on those calls, but because they can just rely on the state to flagellate the male into paying, or just strait up pay them directly, then they have no incentive to stand by their man...

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You have two types of homeless, chronic and transitional. Transitional ones are those who are living in temporary housing, whether it be government run centers or private organizations, not including walk-in homeless shelters. 44% of the total homeless are chronic, or unsheltered, almost all of them being single men. Under the age of 18, usually run-aways, orphans or those who have left a poor domestic situation, have a bigger percentage of female, however, HUD, HHS and NIH both count them as a separate group even though teen boys still make up the majority of that group. Overall, people living in chronic homeless situations, those people you see sleeping on heating vents, park benches or beneath underpasses that are over the age or 18 are almost all men.

But even more troubling is that agencies like HHS are focusing on female homelessness as a serious problem, such as this report. The fact remains that these women they report under the overall homeless figure, especially if they have children, are almost all in a transition status, rather than chronic one. Females have at least 7 large scale government sponsored programs to seek help, where men have typical welfare and medicaid, if they are of course not veterans. And this goes towards courts awarding custody to the mothers in about 90 percent of custody cases.

Furthermore, single women who live near most major cities have access to battered shelters, who by policy do not house single men, even if they are battered. I read a report on here today that showed that men are much more likely to not report domestic violence towards them by women, then the other way around.

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Just like a male... start calling names when someone disagrees with you. Tsk tsk. Anyway continue with your woman-blaming.

By the way it's really sad that instead of focusing on getting shelters for men funded you'd actually rather just have the shelters for women destroyed.

I'm so glad that my descendants won't have to live in a world where males are free to do as they please. Seriously, and I honestly mean this with all of my heart... your gender was meant to be controlled by mine and that's exactly what's going to happen.

I really do love men, but you don't have the mental capacities to have total freedom. You're like wild animals that need to be tamed. You don't know what you're thinking... You just speak mindlessly. It isn't anymore your fault than it's a dogs fault for not being trained.

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Actually, she's got a point. Men are both socially and genetically disposed to not give a fuck about men of lesser status.

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It doesn't change totals but does change the numbers of upvotes and downvotes.

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