Spain approves menstrual leave.

SamaelET · 2023-02-16T19:01:32+00:00

Here is what this means for men :

Women will work less but be paid the same as men
When women will take leaves, their work will be dumped upon men BUT companies will be forced to enforce equal pay and equal opportunities for promotions and raises.

The argument will be :

Men : Men work more than woman so they should get more opportunities.

Feminists : But it is not women's fault if they have menstruation

The same arguments against privileges in exchange of conscription

Men : Men have more duties so they should be given advantages

Feminists : But it is not women's fault if they are physically weaker.

They refuse to see their privileges (getting paid while not working/not being forced to fight and being protected) and refuse to see the pressure on men (men will work more without reward/men are forced to fight and die). As they said, for the privileged, equality feels like oppression.

paliostheos · 2023-02-16T19:54:09+00:00

I'm so confused. They worked so hard to enter the workforce. Why are they now trying to not be there?

63daddy · 2023-02-16T16:55:08+00:00

Sick leave already exists. This added time off for women means less work for equal pay. So much for feminists wanting gender equality.

Why should this one issue receive additional leave but not other issues? Why not migraine headache leave?

LoopyPro · 2023-02-16T20:36:57+00:00

No worries, they also approved a law that lets you decide your own gender. So as a guy, once a month you can declare yourself a menstruating woman and take a week off while still getting paid.

I didn't come up with the rules, I'm just trying to get my fair share.

phoenician_anarchist · 2023-02-16T22:44:21+00:00

And thus, spitting in the face of feminists past who fought against the idea that menstruation effected a woman's ability to work.

The next wave of feminists will claim that this is infantilisation of women pushed by The Patriarchy™.

TheNerdiestAnarchist · 2023-02-16T17:00:00+00:00

I want blue balls leave with employer paid hookers.

Fantastic_Box3257 · 2023-02-16T17:56:27+00:00

Great ,next is what ,not working mood leave

KazukiYahashi · 2023-02-16T20:36:46+00:00

Irene Montero…

Isn’t that the feminist pedo who said that children have the right to consent to sex with adults?

Iamthebackupplan · 2023-02-16T18:00:38+00:00

Women want to make themselves unhireable.

Early-Department-234 · 2023-02-16T16:58:56+00:00

I wonder if the ~~foreign indentured labourers~~, workers in the luxury garment factories will get this leave, or is this for the ivory tower feminists who get well-paid jobs and are vouched for by the elites?

Remember that for every luxury handbag "Made in Spain", it's likely that the handbag was manufactured using the lowest cost and exploitative labour as possible.

Cecarrilloa · 2023-02-16T22:09:39+00:00

This question might be sexist. What will happen when the women workforce takes their leave but production and efficiency of jobs don’t change?

haha_supadupa · 2023-02-17T05:04:42+00:00

Women are paid more in porn movies. It is not their fault, men don’t have a vagina

equalRights111 · 2023-02-16T17:32:56+00:00

And sadly, this isn’t even the most worrying law that Spain has/will enact, such as the ‘yes means yes’ law.

autotldr · 2023-02-16T20:21:54+00:00

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 81%. (I'm a bot)

Madrid has approved legislation expanding abortion and transgender rights for teenagers, while making Spain the first country in Europe that will entitle workers to paid menstrual leave.

The changes ushered in on Thursday to sexual and reproductive rights mean that 16- and 17-year-olds in Spain can now undergo an abortion without parental consent.

The abortion law builds on legislation passed in 2010 that represented a major shift for a traditionally Catholic country, transforming Spain into one of the most progressive countries in Europe on reproductive rights.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Spain^#1 abortion^#2 law^#3 right^#4 change^#5

fuzzy_bunnyx · 2023-02-17T05:16:56+00:00

This is stupid. If a woman has painful menstrual cramps, call in sick.

Otaconbr · 2023-02-17T13:10:36+00:00

Won't this harm women in the long run? If I'm an employer I'll certainly weight much more strongly towards hiring men going forward.

gixxer · 2023-02-17T00:44:02+00:00

Feminism: work less, complain about “wage gap”.

Jukingku22 · 2023-02-16T22:27:39+00:00

All im seeing is feminist making women out to be a liability to society sadly

smfuel87 · 2023-02-16T18:36:52+00:00

I didn't know the bacon flag was a symbol of feminism..

Hopeful_Optimist_ · 2023-02-17T02:07:36+00:00

Men should switch genders on paper.

En masse.

90% men in a year.

That's the way.

aknabi · 2023-02-17T05:47:25+00:00

Equal pay until it’s time to pay… or work

pacsatonifil · 2023-02-17T11:57:32+00:00

The photo is of trans flag lmao. I read the article so people now can declare themselves any gender. It will be interesting to see what happens. Though I don’t expect anything good to happen

hawkeyepitts · 2023-02-17T12:27:56+00:00

There’s no way this applies to women who are factory workers, cashiers, food industry jobs, etc. It’s 100% going to be privileged women who are already overpaid to do a cushy office job (and already have the option to work from home + sick leave) who will benefit from this.

It’s fucking dumb too that they wrapped this up in a reproductive rights bill. Looks like this piece of legislation had a lot of protections for abortion as well as access to birth control. I’m sure some people here will disagree with me on those two topics, but there’s too many people on the planet and low-income people should have equal medical access to abortion and contraceptives.

Women 40+ years ago were complaining that menstruation didn’t “hold them back” from entering the workforce. Now they say it’s does, and they should be paid to stay home 1/4 weeks a month while being paid the same as men? Insanity.

ajomojo · 2023-02-17T12:48:38+00:00

Francisco de Orellana walked from Peru to the Atlantic Ocean across the Amazon jungle. Cabeza de Vaca walked from “La Florida” to the “Nueva España.” Their descendants can’t work because of menstrual blood and headaches. Masculinity in crisis, politicians who happen to have deficient testicles voted for this.

FappingFop · 2023-02-17T16:25:01+00:00

Why not just give two days off every month to everyone and not make it such a contentiously charged issue? The average worker is overworked as it is.

loktaiextatus · 2023-02-17T18:03:23+00:00

Ah yes... back slowly to the ancient "unclean week" where women dont leave the house and are excused from their duties.

Wasnt this "weakness" women were liberated from by pads and tampons etc the reason they were (partly) not preferred for certain professions? Isnt accepting 1/4th of an adult woman of child bearing age's life as an ailment an acceptance of the idea that they arent suitable for the job? My friend has crohns disease and while they are mostly understanding, if he took multiple days off every month for it, as he had to at times it was really bad because he literally couldnt function (or if he HAD gone in, he would just be in their bathroom more than half the day, suffering) and they used it at a way to can him, he went in for unemployment and his employer laid out the facts of what his job entailed and what was REQUIRED for the position in order for the company to function- and that my friend had agreed to do that- and then condition or not he couldn't do it, and so he was denied unemployment- Then while he was looking he attempted to get SSI payments because he was partly disabled from work (Confirmed he could not fulfill the jobs requirements) and they considered him able bodied enough to work- and he was again told to pound sand.

I cant wait to let him know if he moves to spain , as long as he is bleeding on the toilet like he does, he should be GOOD TO GO!

Disastrous-Cry-1998 · 2023-02-16T23:44:16+00:00

Just self identify as a woman and get some paid dime off

mikesteane · 2023-02-17T01:25:37+00:00

Coming soon: "They're discriminating against us by not hiring women!"

JFedererJ · 2023-02-17T10:26:30+00:00

Why does there need to be a specific distinction for menstruation?

If you need time off work because you're not feeling well, what difference does it make what the cause is?

Whether you've got a bug that's going round, suffering from a migraine or having menstrual pains... the result is the same: you're ill and need time off.

I don't get it.

ZYGLAKk · 2023-02-17T18:55:40+00:00

How is this bad?

ajomojo · 2023-02-17T12:50:31+00:00

Don’t ignore the obvious politicians who happen to be men support this

GaySexXTREME · 2023-02-17T13:35:20+00:00

We have employee A & B. The minimum, lets say, UPH is 7. In a normal case, if A is doing 7 UPH, and B is doing 7. But B is going to have 3 days a months off.

Average working day is 8 hour x 7 days x 5 weeks x 12 months. So thats 23520 per year. Now B is taking 3 days off, thats 2016 units lost.

thats 8.57% less work

So women are paid the same for 2016 units less then men with the full amount

Turnout57 · 2023-02-17T14:25:45+00:00

Back in the day, my wife (at the time) had a BFF who was a harpy of a woman, and lived with us for six months after her latest BF kicked her to the curb. So this friend got a job as an admin for a construction company. From the very first week, she would only go in two or three days, calling off sick for much of the week. She was never sick, just preferred to sunbath next to my pool, or go shopping instead of working.

She got away with this for eight months before they finally fired her.

Motorchampion · 2023-02-17T14:54:20+00:00

Failed society

beleidigtewurst · 2023-02-17T15:03:52+00:00

You get what you have voted for...

PrintMoreMoneyz · 2023-02-17T15:15:43+00:00

yet another way men will be fucked over -_-

AmselRblx · 2023-02-17T17:55:46+00:00

Im 50/50 on this.

Partly because its nice that women in workplace get to have a break when they suffer from menstrual cramps. They must be extremely painful and I get it that it affects your ability to work. I don't wanna deny women that kind of privilege.

But at the same time, it feels unfair for men who gets paid at the same amount as the women who had done more work than the women.

TraehNoil · 2023-02-18T04:03:56+00:00

Men are dropping out of the work force, and it’s Because of shit like this

Secret-Platypus-366 · 2023-02-27T04:22:29+00:00

Between 36 and 60 extra PTO days a year

HendoRules · 2023-02-17T10:00:43+00:00

Guys... This isn't gonna be every single woman for 1 week every month... It's for the rare occasions that it's extremely painful or a heavy flow. Get a grip...

dibberdott · 2023-02-17T19:26:03+00:00

Spain needs babies, they have a low birth rate. Fertile women need a break. Day 14 after the first day of their period is Ovulation day. Whats wrong with you people , this is just good the country.

rubberdukc · 2023-02-17T09:45:38+00:00

jUsT tAke SiCk lEavE. why do people need fmla when you can just take sick leave.

Title	Spain approves menstrual leave.
Author	furchfur
Upvotes	154
Comments	152
Date	February 16, 2023 4:23 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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