Study finds that when all conditions are identical, female applicants are favored over male applicants by 2:1 for STEM tenure. This wouldn't be possible in a system with systemic male privilege!

Stumattj1 · 2019-04-08T04:39:40+00:00

Ok, taking bets, will they spin it to be oppressive to women, or will they ignore it?

Nergaal · 2019-04-08T05:41:10+00:00

They fired the guy who dared to state that publicly, because he was too harsh the way he phrased it:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-06913-0

deconstruct2000 · 2019-04-08T03:10:36+00:00

STEM companies are clamoring for female employees. If only they got STEM degrees, rather than gender studies...

millenialprincess · 2019-04-08T04:27:04+00:00

Hmm isnt this sexist too?

mervmonster · 2019-04-08T04:16:40+00:00

Anyone have a link to the study? That website doesn’t like me.

Potatolover3 · 2019-04-08T03:48:20+00:00

And yet there are still more men in STEM programs in college. Well at least In my college. Source: I'm in STEM

Aback990 · 2019-04-08T11:58:26+00:00

I actually made a post on this topic about a month ago,

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/amjek1/the_unexpected_gender_inequality_in_the_stem/?st=JU8AVNHW&sh=a9552033

And some things I found is studies like this often either get their funding cut, or the researchers stop on their own free will and so often they don’t get enough data to make a publishable claim.

backdoorinvestor · 2019-04-08T13:44:46+00:00

I’m glad people are doing these studies.. more and more being done because people are getting sick of feminism

jycr753 · 2019-04-08T04:16:16+00:00

The links don’t work to the source a least the title and small resume link provided.

ukiyuh · 2019-04-08T13:23:33+00:00

I always found it ironic that men are a literal minority to women in America.

But only women can apply for minority scholarships unavailable to men...

Eleazaros · 2019-04-08T08:08:53+00:00

Funny part is that AI's, designed to pick best applicants/best long-term employees - favor males over females.

MaxStories · 2019-04-08T04:45:32+00:00

Shhh this is woman hating!

jonnytechno · 2019-04-08T10:45:53+00:00

The sad thing is nearly every other subject is dominated by women in terms of pass rates, its only STEM where men tend to be more successful, but that's not good enough apparently. But there was recent research putting that down to dropouts, many of which linked to pregnancy I believe (will search for source). So if thia changes men will be failing in every subject.... I guess that's just further illustration of feminisms view of what "equality" looks like

MrHappyTime604 · 2019-04-11T19:31:32+00:00

Will read the article after posting. I absolutely believe this. I'm graduating university with my finals in 1 week, convocation is in a few months. It is extremely important to me that I don't have to work with feminists just because of some shit that I've gone through in my life. Literal mental health issues because of them. I am considering posting one of the links shown in a thread above of a TEDx talk titled "is feminism starting to undermine itself".

Want to do that to make sure the feminism obsessed firms will screen me out, as I don't want to work with them in finance (my major). On the other hand I'm worried that ALL firms will screen me out as a result. Feminists claim we live in a patriarchy in 2019, yet here I am. Afraid to post that. In a patriarchy it would HELP me get a job. In today's world, it would do the opposite.

PixelPete85 · 2019-04-08T05:11:48+00:00

Isn't the point of their argument that conditions aren't identical in the first place?

MrJonesWildRide · 2019-04-08T11:14:58+00:00

Female privilege

haydenv · 2019-04-08T11:44:19+00:00

Hmmm

AFuddyDuddy · 2019-04-08T13:17:14+00:00

But it is possible in the era of, "Equal-Employment" and diversity requirements.

When you are clamoring to meet these standards, you'll start cherry picking applicants.

14Three8 · 2019-04-08T13:22:04+00:00

This is why I’m not going into stem, despite having a large extended family pushing me to do so. (Every female in my extended family except for 2 are all in stem or going to school to do so)

idealcastle · 2019-04-08T14:39:10+00:00

Where is the article? This link has nothing useful.

ThreeLF · 2019-04-08T17:00:01+00:00

These results suggest it is a propitious time for women launching careers in academic science. Messages to the contrary may discourage women from applying for STEM (science, technology, engineering, mathematics) tenure-track assistant professorships.

I'll just leave this here.

tableender · 2019-04-08T17:10:13+00:00

It's down to the welfare system. The more generous a welfare system in a country, the fewer women enter and stay in stem. Sweden Norway and Denmark, the least patriarchal countries in the world for example, where there are some of the most generous welfare system benefits waiting to catch a woman if she ends up divorced, widowed or single and then falls ill etc, have some of the lowest female stem figures in the world. China Russia and India on the other hand, countries where women have to face patriarchy on steroids have some of the highest female take up in stem, numbers that would give feminists a wet dream here in the UK or the US. The major reason being that in the event of them being divorced, widowed or single and falls ill etc, there is a very poor welfare system if any to catch them. Essentially they have to make the long term decisions that men do. You will never see this acknowledged though.

Vuraxis · 2019-04-08T17:20:29+00:00

I've never seen this represented in any form as some sort of hiring discrimination, and this is why things like that advert calling for more women to apply for STEM fields exist. So, in some ways, I don't have a problem with this, but in others, I really do. By all means, encourage them, but don't favour either side.

GrantNexus · 2019-04-09T15:32:15+00:00

Yet this happened: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47478537

thebiscutetimtam · 2019-04-08T05:22:04+00:00

well that aint stupid they campine is for girls it true i have proof at my schools

TuckerMcInnes · 2019-04-08T09:04:17+00:00

Makes sense.

As a CTO, if I have two identical potential employees, I'm going to hire the female.

I want more females in my 99% male office.

victorysflame · 2019-04-17T07:47:25+00:00

Maybe cause they won't have to pay them as much

jonpierre · 2019-04-08T12:04:26+00:00

Sounds like affirmative action

risunokairu · 2019-04-08T04:04:19+00:00

This is just Patriarchy backfiring. MEN are choosing women over men because their inherent extreme toxic homophobia and desire to rape any women they see.

Fraser761 · 2019-04-08T07:23:38+00:00

The story is four years old. Interesting though. It's not denying sexism or discrimination in the industry. Just showing that women are being hired at a higher rate than predicted.

Qwarked · 2019-04-08T12:10:02+00:00

this would actually point to a system of male privilege, because the implication of the study is that women would be hired far more if they were Evaluated the same as men

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