What bs is this

babno · 2019-09-17T03:31:29+00:00

They are, because testosterone is a thing. On the flip side women typically are higher in neuroticism which leads to the depression and anxiety. The sexes are different and hormones effect how each behaves and feels, that's science. We don't want to be a mirror of feminists who think women are perfect and do no wrong.

NekoiNemo · 2019-09-17T06:09:10+00:00

That's not bs - it's 100% correct. Boys are being severely punished from early childhood for displaying any signs depression and anxiety, so when they experience them later in life, being told that displaying those emotions makes them being worthless subhuman beings... The only viable outcome becomes letting them out through aggression.

Akesgeroth · 2019-09-17T06:23:39+00:00

I work in psychiatry and this is absolutely true.

FaerilyRowanwind · 2019-09-17T04:43:39+00:00

It’s actually true. It’s not that men don’t get depressed or anxious it’s about how it is represented. I’d argue it is misleading.

There are reasons why women and men have different rates for suicide as well. Both in the attempt and in completion of task. With many factors that play apart. Like access to a gun.

All people are less likely to commit suicide if they do not have access to a gun. Women are more likely to use methods that are less damaging to their bodies and the way they look. Those methods just happen to be more reversible. It’s not that they weren’t any less certain of what they were doing. (As someone who works in suicide prevention it really bothers me when it is said that it is just a cry for attention.)

There are a lot of factors that go into it. Girls are more likely when they are younger. Boys when they are older. It’s all sorts of complicated.

Which is why it is important that the methods of help are set for the different demographics and their needs. We shouldn’t treat male anxiety and depression the same as you would treat women. And there needs to be more in mental health who’ve a concentration on the sociological and biological needs that males have in terms of depression and anxiety.

It’s late. I hope I made sense. Please feel free to let me know if I didn’t make sense.

2019-09-17T06:16:52+00:00

Testosterone makes men angry where as estrogen which is was a woman produces leads to bouts of lowness

xcbrent · 2019-09-17T04:17:47+00:00

That's not BS lol. That's very true.

MajorWookie · 2019-09-17T05:21:46+00:00

This is why I have to leave this sub. More posts by ignorant people.

TomDaNub3719 · 2019-09-17T06:07:36+00:00

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DogArgument · 2019-09-17T10:13:58+00:00

No.Science gave proof we tend to me more aggressive. On the flip side women are more susceptible to anxiety and depression.

2JMAN89 · 2019-09-17T03:37:16+00:00

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LeL000 · 2019-09-17T07:28:04+00:00

Men are in fact more aggressive than women, that's simply documented literature.

chocothrowaway929 · 2019-09-17T09:59:16+00:00

Both men and women get depression and anxiety, it's just that men tend to display it in the form of agressiveness.

Also to hypothize a little, this might be a factor in why male depression goes more unnoticed since someone acting agressively just comes off as an asshole and people won't try to understand; while if someone just bursts out crying it's the opposite. And it could also be a factor in the higher succcess numbers of male suicide; they may display higher compulsiveness which leads to more intense and eventually successful suicide attempts.

2019-09-17T11:33:26+00:00

It is true, men are just better at killing themselves than women are.

OnTheLeveeee · 2019-09-17T05:54:15+00:00

I’ve said for awhile that there is a very loud element of this sub (it might even be the dominant element) which is just as bad as the nonsense spouted from feminist/critical theory circles but simply in the opposite direction. People like you, OP, who get their feefees in a bunch over psychological statistics because of an anecdotal experience to contrary are just as mind numbingly annoying to deal with as any left-wing blue haired feminist twat. I stay here only because I feel it’s important to be reminded every now and again that there are people willing to weaponise victimhood in all realms of life. We shouldn’t fool ourselves that all the idiots have lined up on only one side of the fence. Grow up.

nexalicious · 2019-09-17T05:45:01+00:00

And men are more likely to kill themselves

lolinokami · 2019-09-17T07:28:24+00:00

"Let's take a paragraph completely out of context, ignore everything preceding or succeeding it, and then say it's big issue we need to be aware of. Context? What context?!"

/u/saltymiles and SJWs

Emperorerror · 2019-09-17T12:19:49+00:00

The scientific literature does show that women are more prone to depression and anxiety and that men are more likely to display aggressive behaviors. This isn't sexism. These are just average differences between the sexes. Obviously there are depressed men and aggressive women, but statistically, there are more depressed / anxious women and aggressive men. It's just psychology.

iainmf · 2019-09-17T05:16:52+00:00

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Jinjrax · 2019-09-17T10:20:07+00:00

"What bs is this" Biology?

azazelcrowley · 2019-09-17T11:09:57+00:00

Depression manifests differently in men and women. In boys it can manifest with aggressive behavior.

BubsyFanboy · 2019-09-17T07:09:48+00:00

what cinnamon toast fuck is this

GermanAmer · 2019-09-17T11:22:49+00:00

I feel like so many girls are suicidal but just want attention. (Of course there are many of them, not saying all of them.) And you rarely see a suicidal Male. This is because of stereotypes.

FireRed1 · 2019-09-17T01:53:59+00:00

The fuck is this from?

tlilly2904 · 2019-09-17T06:13:30+00:00

Men and women can get depression or anxiety,

Women are raised allowed to be emotional. And are told to tell others when they aren’t ok.

Men are supposed to be the stronger sex (physically), and thus they are told to “toughen up” when they try to talk about their emotions!

Wait, i thought women were less privileged..?

PrinceVirginya · 2019-09-17T09:15:23+00:00

Whilst testostorone causes more aggresive behaviours this is a bit misleading

On the contrary depression can manifest in miltiple ways, one of them being more aggresive and reckless behaviour.

Lui_Le_Diamond · 2019-09-17T10:20:57+00:00

Context?

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-09-17T12:36:35+00:00

Blaming tactics 101

<My group> is a victim of/ susceptible to/ prone to/ attacked by <x, y, z>, while the <other group> displays/ practices/ is the perpetrator of/ exhibits <x, y, z>... There. Job done.

jimmyk22 · 2019-09-17T12:56:11+00:00

This sub is usually just an anti-feminism subreddit, but I’ll give it to you OP, this is pure bullshit. Starting with the fact that men’s anxiety and depression rates are higher than women’s

CharlesIngalls47 · 2019-09-17T13:06:28+00:00

This is called statistical analysis

abooseoxy · 2019-09-17T13:07:35+00:00

but its fax

gggrapeee · 2019-09-17T13:42:23+00:00

Women are actually more likely to have depression and anxiety, but men are more likely to commit suicide

puppehplicity · 2019-09-17T14:28:17+00:00

It's partly about what we -- generally speaking, not as individuals -- are "allowed" to do.

Women and girls get less flak for acting in than they do for acting out. Men and boys, likewise, get less flak for acting out than for acting in.

Either way it sucks, but it is a general trend.

logangarrett19 · 2019-09-17T16:00:25+00:00

Ah yes that is why men commit suicide at a scarily higher rate

2019-09-17T17:01:48+00:00

And 80% of suicides are men. As feminists we care so much! :) /s

1002bbc · 2019-09-17T17:59:02+00:00

Lol OP doesn’t understand hormones.

ILIKEBREADBRO · 2019-09-17T20:38:58+00:00

Link the pic please

Mens-Advocate · 2019-09-17T10:22:19+00:00

Some here may be unduly criticising OP.

Males seek help for depression less often and so are diagnosed less often. That doesn't necessarily mean they experience less, only perhaps that they report less. They may soldier on, living lives of quiet desperation.

Higher pressures on men may be reason at once for more depression yet less reporting. There may also be lesser tolerance for men reporting; broken men aren't attractive to women.

Finally, successful suicide certainly indicates severe depression, and men are the majority in that category.

Media articles about suicide rarely mention the higher male death rate until late in the article, if at all.

DogArgument · 2019-09-17T05:39:28+00:00

Accurate or not, feminists will use this to say "Men should just shut up because women have it soooo much worse."

Mortocrates · 2019-09-17T08:53:39+00:00

I get sick to death of reading femcentric bias in psychological research. Don't men experience anxiety and depression too? This piece of writing AGAIN portrays women as victims to feel sorry for, and men as ticking time bombs just waiting to explode with aggression. Enough is enough.

3throwaway141596 · 2019-09-17T11:41:57+00:00

Women attempt suicide more than men (an attention seeking behavior, they know someone is willing to help them). Men actually die from suicide far more often because nobody cares to help.

Mastrmyrtr9 · 2019-09-17T13:07:24+00:00

This is just true...

I'm a big supporter of mens rights, but this is not an example of an unjust treatment. It's just biology my guy

LuckyLock115 · 2019-09-17T13:47:06+00:00

Is it just me or is some actual anti women posts slipping through the cracks of our sub?

claw09 · 2019-09-17T14:47:05+00:00

1) What is this source and why should I care about it?

2) It doesn't seem to be saying anything controversial. Even in depression, men are more likely to display symptoms of anger and violence while women are more likely to have bouts of continuous crying.

Fly_Guy_97 · 2019-09-17T07:51:43+00:00

The world is against men. Specifically straight white American males. There is no amount of whining and complaining that even a collection of men could do to change that. Men are treated as disposable tools and treated like pure shit in society.

Feminists want us castrated and on our knees providing for them while adhering to their every whim. There will NEVER be “The-One”, just one you think you can tolerate for a longer period of time. Use the one life on earth you’ve been given to make something of yourself, not fall into a spiral of depression that seemingly every single married man goes through. Wake up

2019-09-17T14:08:44+00:00

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grandpa_stalin_37 · 2019-09-17T08:03:38+00:00

Listen, its a harsh truth, but there's a catch... According to them girls are twice as likely to be depressed, although ~70/75% of suicides are male. Bmo female depression (in general) means not being constantly happy and emotional eating. Guys need to deal with ACTUAL depression (suicide thoughts, cutting/self abuse, suppressing emotions, crying yourself to sleep ect...) The difference between man and Women is that both are struggling in life, although majorly women complain and say men have it easy since they don't feel entitled to share how they feel.

NaDius147 · 2019-09-17T08:59:38+00:00

except women blow fuses over nothing. Women r more likely to hit men than vice versa. think of shows where the woman slaps a guy becoz she is mad, but men can't even hit a woman in self defence.

Title	What bs is this
Author	saltymiles
Upvotes	1162
Comments	259
Date	September 17, 2019 1:52 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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