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Slipthe · 2022-01-03T16:07:20+00:00

The advice they give is usually something they do want in a man, the part they don't say out loud is that they still deem the guy they are giving the advice to as too unattractive even after making the changes.

It really depends on what the guys looks like and acts like. She's most likely gonna give advice on how to meet people away from her.

Thatshygurl · 2022-01-03T17:45:58+00:00

As a woman who has a good amount of male friends I give pretty general advice to all of them when it comes to dating, regardless of looks.

-don’t be a simp

-don’t be a meal ticket

-have self respect and dignity; ie know when to drop a bitch

livs4dietdrpepper · 2022-01-03T15:51:40+00:00

I don’t think women are intentionally trying to “keep men out of the dating pool” at all I really don’t think that’s helpful to them in anyway

However I will say a lot of advice given will really only work if you’re already semi attractive

I’m guilty of it too like I would deff give advice like pick up a hobby. I mean it’s a good idea to meet people and just be more well rounded and happier, and you may meet a gal with similar interests, but idk if it is the easiest or most realistic

It sucks but the best advice for everyone struggling dating is probably just to lower standards

wtknight · 2022-01-03T16:01:51+00:00

Yes, this has been talked about here many times. Women usually give men advice that makes them good relationship material - not good sexual attraction material. Although there are a few women out there who might actually give a male friend good honest advice that will improve his sexual prospects but that could hurt his feelings such as to get a better haircut or to change his wardrobe.

-passepar2t- · 2022-01-03T16:20:24+00:00

In the 6'2 white guy's defense, partying and doing coke is awesome and doesn't prevent you from learning to cook or a different language or improving yourself.

Demasii · 2022-01-03T16:29:28+00:00

It's not subconscious or intentional so you don't succeed.

It's ignorance and she is just giving you mainstream advice because "it sounds right" with no actual thought put into it.

Or

She knows your weaknesses and intentionally decide not to point them out because she will be attacked and criticized for it.

People have a tendency of "shooting the messanger".

If I tell a guy he needs to lose weight, I'll be told I'm shallow.

He has a bad sense of humor? Well I don't know what is funny.

You really think frustrated hurt men want open and honest feedback? They will take advantage of the opportunity to attack the character of women to make themselves feel better.

ragman75 · 2022-01-03T17:40:13+00:00

They don't do it to prevent the man from entering the dating pool they do it because they say what they want to believe about women and thus themselves.

austinshepard13 · 2022-01-04T09:22:18+00:00

I don’t actually think it’s intentional but it does occur. I think of the example of when a woman you’re in a relationship with or seeking advice from tells you that you don’t need to workout because she’s not attracted to “muscly” guys. When in the same day she will drool over some fit dude with his shirt off at the beach or on TV. That’s when you realize she does indeed find muscles attractive, just not on you. She’s basically subconsciously communicating to you that you shouldn’t bother because it won’t make a difference for you, who she for whatever reason sees as lesser. This is obviously bad advice for any man wishing to improve his dating options, lifting and becoming fit is an surefire way to bump you up at least a couple points.

I think the reason they do this is that women (in general) instinctively want a “natural”, or someone who just gets it and doesn’t need to work for it. It’s a sign of good biology/genetics. She doesn’t want to be “tricked” by someone who had to work really hard to appear to be a better genetic option than they actually are.

I’ve heard women, who I’m close to and regard as kind reserved people, say things like “ugh I bet he just wakes up like that” upon seeing Ryan Reynolds with his shirt off or something. I don’t think it’s a conscious thing, but they place great importance on a guy being “natural” and will project this onto guys they want that to be true for like Ryan Reynolds, despite the fact that he obviously works really hard to maintain a great physique. An ugly/undesirable guy will not get that benefit of the doubt, and will be given “bad” advice to prevent him from potentially elevating himself out of his ugly/bad genetics domain where he belongs.

DarkSp3ctre · 2022-01-03T15:40:43+00:00

Because the entire world is out to get you

superincongruent · 2022-01-03T16:36:47+00:00

The problem with this post is "chad" is also learning new languages and going to cooking class and whatever other hobby stuff when he isn't partying and doing coke. So you can try those thing but you might get mogged there too.

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goatismycopilot · 2022-01-03T15:50:53+00:00

It does not matter what advice about dating women given men, they will ignore it so women should just say whatever bullshit they are thinking in that moment. They largely feel neutral about most men as a starting place so they are neither subconsciously hostile nor overly hopeful.

CatoftheBanals · 2022-01-03T15:56:14+00:00

So what advice would you give, o wise one?

2022-01-03T16:03:21+00:00

Intentional.

cowfishAreReal · 2022-01-03T16:44:29+00:00

That's nonsensical, what would woman gain by trying to keep those men out of the dating pool? By simple supply and demand the more men are in the dating pool and the better they are on average the better chances (straight) women would have

M3taBuster · 2022-01-03T18:28:20+00:00

I agree that women give bad dating advice to men, but it has to be unintentional. Women benefit from more men becoming attractive to women by having more options to choose from. They can only gain from it. So why on earth would they intentionally work against it?

Here are some more likely explanations:

Women just don't know what they, themselves want. Perhaps because the abundance they experience in dating prevents them from ever having to do much introspection.
They do know what they want, but they lie about it because stating what they want is politically incorrect and risks social stigma. So it's not like they want men to fail, it's just that they've done the calculus and decided that virtue signaling is more important to them than having more attractive men to choose from.
Women's values are so fundamentally different that they have a totally different definition of dating success. For instance, a lot of women seem to genuinely think that being the beta bux makes you the winner, because hey, in the end you got the girl and you got married, right? So when they give men advice, they're giving them advice on how to be a beta bux, which is obviously not what us men want to be.

Frosty-Gate-8094 · 2022-01-03T18:30:53+00:00

Women don't give the 'wrong' answer...

They actually give the right but incomplete answer.

The complete answer is -- women want a man who is 'attractive to her' but also is faithful, sensitive, respects women, talks sweet,etc (basically a nice guy)...

The part they 'intentionally' leave out is that he needs to be attractive first.
If he isn't attractive, the other qualities won't matter to them.

Most unattractive guys try these tactics and fail and blame women for wrong advice.
While in reality, she gives him the right advice, just leaves the 'fine-print' secret.

TomorrowsWar · 2022-01-03T18:41:43+00:00

If you’re ugly, acting like chad isn’t really going to help you. Women who like chad just for his looks, will like him for just that. they don’t like you just for your looks because of your looks. That option is off the table for you.

If you’re ugly and have nothing going for you, not even a tolerable attitude or a decent life, why would we like you…

Potential_Plate2538 · 2022-01-03T19:09:13+00:00

Cooking classes are one of the dumbest dating advice anyway. Who the fuck is going to pay serious money to learn how to cook and then use that time to hit on women who are completely busy doing something.

sweetestpineapple · 2022-01-03T20:31:43+00:00

I’m trying to be more honest in my advice to male friends. The only personality factor I focus on is not coming off as insecure and acting more confident. But looks wise it’s kinda hard because beyond like style and grooming tips you can’t tell a guy to lose weight or something without offending them in most situations.

Feroc · 2022-01-03T21:09:38+00:00

Let’s think, is the 6’2 white guy in a frat going to go to a cooking class to meet chicks?

Is the guy who gets an advice a 6'2 white guy in a frat? Is "become a 6'2 white guy and join a frat" an option?

Look around and see who has girlfriends and wives in the real world. Most of them are just average Joes.

At the end meeting a partner is a numbers game. Every woman someone meets could be the one... but most are not. Now where does someone meet women? In a chess club or in a cooking class?

thetruthishere_ · 2022-01-04T02:58:29+00:00

Im sorry I just wont ever tell someone to be a drunken drug user just to get sex just because some of them can.

Most dating advice Ive been asked its specific to them. Like women is doing X. 9/10 times I tell him to run or hes needs another perspective.

Shredddz · 2022-01-04T03:33:11+00:00

Its only about how she thinks people perceive her depending on what she answers. She will say what makes women and her look the best. Thats why virtue signaling is the default mode of communication to a point of it being pathological

JacobMoogberg69 · 2022-01-03T15:48:05+00:00

Sure. And men have no interest in there being a lot of hot girls around because they all benefit from fucking the same hot girl that everyone fucks. Fuck me!

sarkington · 2022-01-03T15:56:14+00:00

We don’t care that much

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