Blue pill guys and cuckolding

moodymela · 2015-02-16T17:49:29+00:00

I've always wonder if the appearance of cuckold culture, and the explosion in rates of male to female transsexuals (which has always been higher than female to male) has anything to do with gynocentrism and how ruthlessly masculinity is being demonized.

monsieurhire2 · 2015-02-16T17:59:41+00:00

Excellent analysis of the psychology. I would add though that some women are just insatiable, and no matter how alpha the man is, well, they'll never be satisfied. The female capacity for orgasm and sexual pleasure is far larger than the males. Some women are just rotten to the core in this respect, and no matter how much they get, it's never enough. These kinds sometimes become porn stars or prostitutes, but just as often, taken on as many lovers as they can handle, whether they are married or not. I write this only so some of you realize that it's not 100% your fault if you get cheated on or cuckolded. Even if you HAD been perfect, or as perfect as you could be, it may still have happened. People are fallible, especially women.

shillybanilli · 2015-02-16T18:55:36+00:00

I'm going to weigh in as a guy who played the "stud" for a cuck couple once.

It took a LOT of cajoling. I felt very uncomfortable the first few times that it was brought up, I thought it was a joke or a test or something. It wasn't until after way too many drinks that he had his wife naked with her legs spread that I knew it was legit.

I eventually did it out of guilt and it was a very strange experience. I fucked the shit out of her, and she said I was too hard/strong/rough etc for her, she couldn't take it.

I always had TONS of respect for the dude who did it, he was the quintessential alpha, high respect blue collar position, man's man, respect of everyone. After this I kinda lost most of that alpha respect for him. Seems he was turned on by the humiliation and from what I gather seemed to have had an abused childhood with a domineering mother.

Kind of hard to retain that alpha respect for a dude who licked your cum off his wife's tits.

Just my two cents.

mykonos_rm · 2015-02-16T17:42:00+00:00

props for fighting back, working to better yourself, and not being a whiny bitch like most men in similar situations.

Squeezymypenisy · 2015-02-16T20:56:04+00:00

These posts are starting to get really weird.

Yakatonker · 2015-02-16T20:20:26+00:00

Your deficiencies are not that different from any other men, most date or marry women out lust for the feminine form and the added perception of social value, companionship they supposedly offer. Really at its core is a shallowed mechanic for decision making based on the primordial male subconscious used to propagate the species. TRP goes only one level above and shows you how to square out and benefit from these extreme human deficiencies, instead of cutting them out of your micro all together, that's because in an economical sense you need to cater to the deficiencies of others(micro) which reflect in the macro(society) at large in order to profit, maintain social status which ironically is the thing which caters to the female subconscious and feeds the feudalistic feminist governments of the West.

You can play a rigged game with TRP knowledge all you want, but as long as you're playing you're still going to lose. Women's SMV is realistically next to that of the trash bin, its return on investment is low which is why Generation X, Y+ are jumping ship and why a majority of men will soon become like Japan's Herbivore men who've wholly decided to cut out their deficiency altogether and abandon their plutocratic/feudalistic government and traditional workplace roles.

GayLubeOil · 2015-02-16T22:30:52+00:00

Every man has the ability to create his own hell

Brzinajbrzi · 2015-02-16T18:30:40+00:00

Define "core belief system".

joe_bruised_ego · 2015-02-16T19:58:29+00:00

I think there’s too much conflating of the cuckolding fetish and actual cuckolding ie: beaing cheated on in this sub.

Most of the times a couple is into cuckolding the man requests it. Even our hero, Patrice O’Neil said he liked to get off on watching other guys fuck some of his women. Not quite cuckolding, but similar.

Having a weird kink is not something that should be shamed, in my opinion. Why suppress something you like if it gets your rocks off because you don’t think of it as being manly enough or whatever? It’s like the difference between rape fantasy roleplay and actual rape.

beware_the_syllogism · 2015-02-16T21:01:01+00:00

Every time I read a story like this the more I realize betas who are content to remain betas are damaging everything that it means to be male. They are doing incredible damage to every male around them by reinforcing horrible behavior on women's behalf. Betas will still be the ones who are worst off.

Best of luck, thank you for sharing your story.

therellikofthenight · 2015-02-16T20:20:52+00:00

There's tons of cuckolds out there. Chances are if you see a guy in a relationship and she looks like the boss, the guy's a cuckold-in-waiting, if he's not already.

KyfhoMyoba · 2015-02-17T01:19:14+00:00

OP, take a moment, or however long it takes, and reflect on your early interactions with your soon-to-be ex. Looking at her through the Red Pill filter of not paying attention to what they say, but paying close attention to what they do, what was the very first red flag that you (obviously) ignored? IOW, what could you have done to prevent this?

KyfhoMyoba · 2015-02-16T19:48:41+00:00

But why do they enjoy the sense of humiliation and degradation?

I think that those - unlike OP - that enjoy and seek out the cuckold "lifestyle" have eroticized cortisol, the stress hormone and kinda the opposite of testosterone. I also agree that it's somehow a fan vs player vicarious dynamic. I think that the two are related, but I haven't figured out how yet.

Anybody got any thoughts?

MGTOW_player · 2015-02-16T20:38:34+00:00

I have known one red pill guy into "cuckolding". But it was more like enjoying watching girls, especially his wife, getting treated like a cum dumpster.

If you're a "Chad Thundercock" type you can fuck some really hot girls. If you guys want I'll write up an essay.

sigmayogi · 2015-02-16T21:06:42+00:00

This is a recurring theme in TRP. Men forgot how to behave like men, and their women get out of control as a result.

If you are relentless in your pursuit of personal long term goals, open about it with her, and don't let her get away with nagging and distracting you, she'll naturally fall into her place as a woman.

Cuckolds are indeed a far reaching extreme of letting her get away with shit you should have never tolerated to begin with.

cover20 · 2015-02-16T20:48:50+00:00

There are two unmatched discussions going on in this thread.

OP says he was cuckolded because his wife fucked another guy behind his back, and he found out.

Then there are people who talk about intentional cuckolding where you watch another guy fuck your wife, weird sex parties, wife swapping, whatever. I can't even read most of the posts that discuss that all the way though. That's not what OP was or is into, as I read it. Maybe you're so weak your wife talks you into allowing this. Whatever, this isn't what OP did.

hibloodstevia · 2015-02-17T00:14:03+00:00

Many men are highly sexually aroused by seeing their woman derive great sexual pleasure from another man. Ref: /r/cuckold

The men there are encouraging their women to get nailed by "bulls".

It's a fetish, no different than with feet or scat or something.

Just a wiring issue. I mean, it clearly is a defect. Any unusual drive to engage in a sexual practice that does not promote the passing on of your genes is contrary to evolution.

SpeedMetalPunker · 2015-02-17T21:58:39+00:00

The girl I've been seeing is displaying some borderline slutty behavior, thank you for posting this, because now I think I'm done. There's nothing between us anyway, so it's honestly no loss. Plus if I did actually give a shit, then my 135x8 for Deadlift wouldn't make me forget about it.

ProjectShamrock · 2015-02-16T20:11:41+00:00

I've never actually met someone who was openly into cuckolding, and I have trouble seeing any appeal to the idea to begin with. It seems natural for men to be territorial with women they are in relationships with, even if it's a relative or someone you knew from childhood that you aren't physically attracted to.

So my ignorance of the matter already stated, I have a theory that it's not so much that a greater percentage of men are into it than before. Instead, it's that more women are comfortable being open with it, and as a result feeding off of the information on cuckolding that you can find on the internet so they can justify it in their own minds as being "normal". In many cases, they drag their stupid beta bucks guys along and show him all the crap on the internet about it, and as a result convince him that it's normal and acceptable behavior.

babydocnorman · 2015-02-16T21:01:55+00:00

One more thing - I am a man of my word and when I commit, I commit. Until my divorce is final, I will not sleep with another woman.

Good job taking the necessary steps to become a free man. I gotta say though, aren't you being a martyr here? She's fucking around on you at will and you still want to be faithful to her? An agreement is only binding if both parties live up to their end of the bargain. Some advice: get a legal separation right away so you can start exercising your right as a free man to fuck who you want.

oldredder · 2015-02-17T04:53:19+00:00

I didn't even know this was a thing. Just a few minutes ago I learned for the first time there's such a thing as cuckold porn. No joke - it's a real thing. Wow.

I've learned a lot with my life experience but I am humbled by having only discovered this is a real thing today.

The world's surprises - never-ending.

someguysomewhere321 · 2015-02-17T06:23:52+00:00

Having watched lots of cuckold porn, I think there are lots of different personalities involved, from bi / closet gay guys that use it as an excuse to suck a guy's dick, to older guys that got tired of fucking their wifes, but still think it's hot to watch her get fucked by black studs, to younger guys that watched porn for 10+ years before they ever got laid and got wired wrong that way (their gfs / wifes usually look uncomfortable with the whole thing), to wifes that are into humiliating their beta etc.

Rougepellet · 2015-02-17T07:35:04+00:00

I never sympathized with cuckolded men. I believe when they get to that point they're too far gone. I felt great disappointment towards them. I think you came close to this point except you got angry and changed. They didn't. They just accepted it. Maybe they didn't have whatever it takes.

my-redpillthrowaway · 2015-02-17T11:58:35+00:00

One of my biggest fantasies is to be the "bull". Fucking a guy's wife in front of him is so fucking hot to me. The things I would do to become one.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-02-17T19:00:01+00:00

It's hard for me personally to understand being driven down so deeply into cuckolding.

All I can do is attempt to imagine from an abstract position.

Red Pill is entirely the opposite of cuckolding... so you are now studying the opposite frame of mind.

It seems to me that cuckolding functions like an incestous relationship.

The male plays the "good boy" and the woman plays the mother "with needs".

Since we know:

Men love women, women love children, children love puppies.

The woman uses a dual sexual strategy of seeking Alpha (who she Charms and respects) and seeking Beta (love of children) in order to fulfill her lifestyle.

A cuckold is a boy that never became a man by growing "up" in status.

Mommy loves her boy, but only sleeps with men.

evenmoretiredoflibs · 2015-02-18T00:27:18+00:00

Well I think you are missing something in that it's not really men that get roped into it as much as there are men who desire it. Not because they are trapped in such a marriage, but because all they ever knew was the BP. Because pretty much everything else you said. Except that I think it's important to note the huge distinction between 'getting roped in' and 'pursuing it'.

These men aren't victims as much as they are in such a position due their inability to take control of their lives.

showmeyourjits · 2015-02-16T20:06:07+00:00

I'll never understand cuckolding. What in the fuck to men get out of it? Not a fucking thing beside emotional abuse. But fuck those men, too much of a pussy to stand up to your woman? Fuck off. If my woman even thinks about cucking, she's out the door.

Incognitro777 · 2015-02-16T21:55:15+00:00

Shout out to go OP for keeping it real, but shit dude, my skin is crawling for this whole post and the comments. This shit is disgusting. Why are we even talking about shit like this?? This isn't cuckold counseling.

cover20 · 2015-02-16T20:29:47+00:00

Be remorseless in the divorce, maximize your take and minimize hers. Get the nastiest toughest divorce lawyer in town, that might be a woman, they know how to fight really dirty.

This is all her fault and you want to win as much as you can here, come out of the wreckage the best you can and goodbye to her.

Soriq · 2015-02-16T21:20:59+00:00

There is a natural male incentive to holding honor and abiding by contracts, but fuck that, if you can get some side on the low then do it. You're leaving her anyway aren't you?

My divorce is still in the works but I'm already sleeping around. Remember, she broke those vows first. Contract terminated. The rest is paperwork

NoRegretj · 2015-02-16T22:43:56+00:00

We should thank them, really, as sad as it is. The more of them there are, the better it is for us.

sealteamaus · 2015-02-17T09:33:28+00:00

dude please elaborate on the red pill changes you started making and the corresponding reactions from the whore

dan7899 · 2015-02-17T15:39:42+00:00

Screw her into the floor bro. She confessed to cheating. Now, you need to get evidence for court. Everything is in your favor if you can show she admitted it. Hell, it should be over and done already. You are not entitled to split assets if she committed flagrant adultery.

MuzakNinja · 2015-02-17T16:20:09+00:00

I think this is ignoring the fact that most men bring up cuckolding to their wives as part of a fetish. It seems to be a male-centric kink, for whatever reason.

What happened to you was terrible, but that was straight-up cheating and doesn't really apply to the cuckold community.

kaotik-weevil · 2015-02-17T17:18:28+00:00

My cousin's married to a really fucked up beta dude (whom many suspect is actually gay), and he's encouraged her to sleep with other guys because he claims he's impotent and can't give it to her as much as she wants it.

She's extremely naive and doesn't realize the kind of damaging shit she's putting herself through by being with this turd of a human being. She's coming to visit in a few weeks and my wife and I are gonna try ro convince her to leave him while she's here.

I once said to her that "any man that willingly allows another man to fuck his wife isn't a man at all" and she burst into tears and told me what he said before about her finding other guys to fuck.

She needs an alpha really fucking bad, mainly because her parents never taught her shit and she has an 8th grade education after which they pulled her out of school for no reason other than her mom is a lazy cow.

Unfortunately, I don't know any alphas around this area, as I grew up in what has now become a haven for SJW bullshit herd mentality.

I'm trying to get her to live with us so we can show her what a functional 10+ year marriage looks like and what she should expect out of both a man and a healthy relationship.

But cuckolding? The men who willingly participate in that shit are the irredeemable...the lowest of the low. I've stepped on insects that I respect more than these nutless wastes.

redpillerinnyc · 2015-02-18T02:45:50+00:00

If you had truly embodied TRP she wouldn't even have thought about cheating on you. Or did the affair start before your conversion?

redpillerinnyc · 2015-02-18T03:29:00+00:00

For those of you who think only betas living vicariously through alphas are into cuckolding, let me tell you an example to the contrary. I used to have a fuck buddy (HB9, super tight body) who used to date this 80's rock star. Now this guy was one of the sex symbols of the era, most of you cannot imagine how many chicks he's banged (into 4 digits.) She was his live-in girlfriend. She told me that he had a cuckold fetish, and he would order male prostitutes for her to fuck. It was totally his idea and fetish. Oh, and he insisted that male prostitutes had to have bigger cocks than he did (and this guy measured at 8.5" according to her, so not an easy feat.)

Some people just have fucked up fetish. It doesn't have much to do with being beta or alpha. Some of the men whom you consider total alpha might have small dick humiliation fetish, or into dommes whipping him into submission while he's wearing panties.

Dravous · 2015-02-18T06:21:56+00:00

I'm curious how this differs from swingers in which both husbands are fucking each other's wives. both guys are getting both women, and watching the other guy...a lot of psychological crossfires going on there I would imagine.

thenarrrowpath · 2015-02-19T20:20:21+00:00

Until my divorce is final, I will not sleep with another woman.

No, you need hook up as much as possible. Free your self from the chains of marriage and never do it again, but for god sake please bang a girl way hotter than you're soon to be ex wife and let her know.

scarletspider3 · 2015-02-17T00:28:45+00:00

I'm sorry but I have trouble believing that cuckolding is a real thing that guys are into. Just the thought of such a thing creeps me out.

circlhat · 2015-02-16T19:04:19+00:00

I have a different theory and it resolves around the man himself and society. These two together are required to make a cockhold.

A man that is insecure will seek unconditional love , to get unconditional love he realizes he must love unconditionally. Therefore he will choose the first women who gives him a chance.

Now image you went on 1000 dates, talk to 5000 girls and only one girl ever showed you any attention. This man is happy, he knows he has to work though hard times and its not all about him.

He doesn't understand there is no right and wrong with women, he will actually try and stand up for himself(despite popular belief). His girl will simply complain about being raped or molested and he doesn't care about her feelings. Now a guy wouldn't be so trivial with his feelings or cry at a whim so he thinks her side of the argument must be important to her and he loves her unconditionally so he believes he is acting rationally.

It takes a lot of balls to tell a rape victim(Real and fake) that it is not relevant to the argument, something he has been trained since childhood not too do, in fact a lot of red pillars don't have the resolve within themselves too know when they are right and no matter the circumstances it doesn't change fact.

The man wants to be loved unconditionally that is his end goal, not to mate, but too have a place where he will always be accepted, he is looking for a mother type of love and was told it exist. His woman is his entire life she can weight 500 pounds and he will love her.

Society will honor him and all is well.

Societies part

A lot of TRP talk tough shit to "weak man" not realizing if they leave all they face is 18 years in and out of prison, a career ruined and living on the street/parents/jail. They will never see their kids and they will lose everything they worked for oh yea and legalized slavery and debtors prison.

Sometimes the best option is to be cuckholded, She hits you, you go to jail , everyone is going to take her side. Recently on facebook a mother was drunk and kill her baby, she got sympathy and no chargers were brought.

Let that sink in for a minute, a girl got drunk , murdered a baby, and got sympathy. This isn't a Facebook rumor, My girl friend knows this girl and she was so disgusted and shocked a mother could be so careless.

It isn't a 80% favor women and 20% favor men, 95% of the time a women will win any debate or argument. Your subconscious will not let you take such a silly risk.

To prevent divorce you agree to let her sleep with other people, which society will support, not the other way around of course(That is abuse).

The only way to prevent cuckholding is too know the majority people are pieces of shit, they are wrong, you are right. You probably heard "If you run into a asshole in the morning , afternoon , and night you are asshole" , This simply isn't true. 95% of the people don't agree with what I do, in fact most people say don't even talk about TRP. You have to have a craziness and stubbornness and some arrogance too say, "Feminist is wrong, the president is wrong, Colleges and people with P.H.D are some of the most retarded people on earth and I know better"

tl;dr To simply say these are weak minded or weak will man doesn't even come close to what is happening, consider these man probably make more money , dress better and been in monk mode most of their lives. They usually earn high income , I'm talking about the guys who pay to have their wives fucked. These man are in a constant stream of self improvement and support for their love ones, no matter the cost too themselves.

watersign · 2015-02-17T01:51:43+00:00

The cuckhold community is nothing new, its been large for a long time. It's not some new phenomena and quite franklly, many do it for fun. I wouldnt be a cuckhold, but i'd have no problem swapping a gf and using her as a token in exhcnage for gangbangs/3 somes ,etc

MattyAnon · 2015-02-16T19:46:16+00:00

Angry that my loving, genuine and honest wife is nothing but a random slut.

No no no no no. She was never your loving, genuine and honest wife.

Until my divorce is final, I will not sleep with another woman.

Lame. This is a covert contract. "I am being overly literally stupidly decent therefore you (women) will also do the same for me or I will look down on you (women)".

Once you're defined as separated (ie no legal repercussions), get out there and start fucking other women you beta chicken.

hohamocha · 2015-02-16T22:47:09+00:00

When you get big and ripped, you will be the one fucking a dude's wife while he watches. It's the circle of life

RP_Since_Birth · 2015-02-16T20:03:10+00:00

Oh look, another cuckold post. I'd bet my dick being eaten by piranhas that 1 cuckold exists for every 100 mentions on TRP.

MonetaryCock · 2015-02-16T20:39:37+00:00

Maybe it's just me, but I've always wanted to have my close friends in on a orgy with some fine women. It's a bonding experience of sorts.

Hell, if I even had a girlfriend down to try it I'd like to share her with a few close friends. That's man love, nothing about shame comes into it.

Grainslol · 2015-02-17T22:01:01+00:00

We need to guide our younger friends and associates to the truth, otherwise life as we know it will cease to exist.

Dude, are you serious? Do you know that there are bacterial species that live in benthic thermal vents under extreme heat and pressure?

C00l_Guy · 2015-02-16T20:29:23+00:00

Why do I click these threads? Disgusting story OP. You are both the lowest kind of people. The stereotypical "faggot and whore" relationship.

It's not hard to guess which one you were/maybe still are.

Baylien2 · 2015-02-16T17:40:53+00:00

Cuckolds to me are men who don't have what it takes to be alpha so they enjoy living vicariously through others. They take it to extremes by allowing others to fuck their wives silly because they are too fucking pussy to do it themselves

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